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• The Misplaced Pages community includes a wide variety of editors with different interests, skills, and knowledge. We all manage to get along through a lot of discussion that happens under the scenes and through the bold, revert, discuss editing cycle. If you encounter any problems, you can discuss them on an article's talk page or post a message on the WPMED talk page.

Feel free to drop a note on my talk page if you have any problems. I wish you all the best on your wiki voyages! Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 10:25, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for your contributions. A bunch of us who are interested in medical-related articles hang out at Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Medicine. Feel free to drop by if you have questions, need help, or want to see what else is going on. We always need more good editors. WhatamIdoing (talk) 00:36, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

Reversion of edit on Sucharit Bhakdi article

Hello! I noticed you have reverted my edit on the article about Sucharit Bhakdi. I ask you to please clarify why you did so. In your message, you assert that my edit was wrong, but provide no further evidence. In the talk page, in the section Insubstantial reference for spreading conspiracy theories we had reached the conclusion that the sources referenced did not support the misinformation assertion. I invite you to expose your case on that section, or provide sources to support your claim. Tigre200 (talk) 16:17, 25 November 2020 (UTC)

revert

this should not be on Autoimmune/inflammatory syndrome induced by adjuvants per MEDMOS--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 00:02, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

Vitamin B6

As the nominator of the failed GA application for Vitamin b6, I am working through replying to the bulleted points of the review. Your suggestions and comments (and contributions to the article) are welcome. P.S. I did not bring this up with the GA reviewer, but I have previously raised seven vitamin articles to GA. This was my first time for an outright rejection rather than a 'fix this and that' interaction. David notMD (talk) 10:47, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

Thx, I try to help - I also intended to improve the German article...--Julius Senegal (talk) 11:43, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

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@Slatersteven: Please explain what this means as I strongly oppose any kind of "past disruption" in that field.

Otherwise I will bring this warning to you as well, if it makes you happy. --Julius Senegal (talk) 12:39, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

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Sources

I invite you to join WikiProject Medicine's informal, low-key contest about adding citations to articles: https://outreachdashboard.wmflabs.org/courses/Wikipedia/WikiProject_Medicine_reference_campaign_2023?enroll=qyoufwds (All you have to do is sign up at that link, and then edit normally. Everything else is automated.) WhatamIdoing (talk) 19:47, 15 February 2023 (UTC)

RFK

Marcywinograd (talk) 11:45, 25 April 2023 (UTC)Hi Julius, I received your message addressing my edits to the lead on Robert F. Kennedy Junior's Misplaced Pages page. The lead as it is written--"Robert Francis Kennedy Jr. (born January 17, 1954) is an American environmental lawyer and author known for promoting anti-vaccine propaganda and conspiracy theories." lacks neutrality and reads like a hit piece out the gate. Is he only known for this? Is he not known for his environmental litigation? Is he not known as a challenger in the 2024 Democratic Party primary? Who is to be the arbiter of what he is most known for? I do not see a citation to a current poll asking what Kennedy Junior is best known for? In time, he will be known for challenging a sitting Democratic Party president--a fact listed at the end of the whole entry, assigned to irrelevancy. Silly.

Hey, Marcywinograd, I'm not Julius, but I happened to see your question. Since RFK is identified first as an environmental lawyer, I think that settles your question about whether he is known for his environmental litigation. If "in time, he will be known for challenging a sitting Democratic Party president", then "in time" the Misplaced Pages article will say that, but not before then.

The usual method for identifying what a subject is known for is to read books and other high-quality sources, and see what they say. If none, or hardly any of them, mention some fact, then the Misplaced Pages article should not make it prominent. As a very rough, crude estimate, I note that putting his name into Google's search engine gives me millions of Ghits, and the same search with -vaccine on the end halves the number of hits. I see the same pattern for terms like -lawyer and -environment. See Misplaced Pages:Search engine test for some reasons why this approach isn't sufficient, but if it turns out to be representative, then this suggests that we're approximately on the right track. A more reliable test is: Can you name two books about this person that have been published in the last ten years and that don't mention the things you'd like to have buried? WhatamIdoing (talk) 20:05, 25 April 2023 (UTC)

To me, someone who knew little about Kennedy Junior until recently, he was best known for running and losing against incumbent Senator Markey, who introduced the Green New Deal legislation.

On another note, where do I scream from the mountaintops about the politically incorrect usage of the term "American," which is also in the lead. Editors should be specific, say US, as American also applies to those from Central and South America. Someone who disagrees might say this is standard practice or consensus practice. Granted, a lot of people also adopt a US exceptionalist attitude about term "American" but that doesn't make it appropriate. Would we use a racially derogatory term that a lot of people use just because they use it??? To use the term "American" is racially insensitive as it suggests those in the Global South do not exist. Best wishes, MarcyMarcywinograd (talk) 11:45, 25 April 2023 (UTC)

Phrases like "was an American" are used about 30 times more frequently than "was a US" on the English Misplaced Pages, so that battle is probably hopeless. Also, the United States of America aren't the only United States, so there may not be any perfect solution. WhatamIdoing (talk) 20:09, 25 April 2023 (UTC)

I can only echo WhatamIdoing.

In addition, the abstract of an article summarizes what is written below. Unfortunately for RFK jr., he does promote anti-vaccine propaganda and conspiracy theories. Maybe he will stop this some time in the future, so we can add this with reliable sources. But omitting it is clearly a violation in WP:NPOV. --Julius Senegal (talk) 17:50, 26 April 2023 (UTC)

Hi Julius,

I hope this message finds you well. I am writing to you regarding the page for Robert F. Kennedy Jr. (RFK Jr.). There has been some discussion on the internet about the potential bias of this page . Some people believe that the page presents an often inaccurate mainstream consensus on RFK Jr.'s views on vaccines .

One specific point of contention is the use of the word "propaganda" in the first sentence of the page, which some people believe is a loaded term. Additionally, some people may take issue with the page labeling RFK Jr. as a “conspiracy theorist” without providing sufficient context or evidence to support this claim. There is also a concern that the page does not give enough attention to RFK Jr.'s decades of advocacy for the environment and human rights.

I hope this information is helpful to you.

Best regards, -- Iosdeveloperguy (talk) 13:01, 4 June 2023 (UTC)

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