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	:::Lushootseed is a language, not a people. How many sentences would it take for you to think the history warrants mention? In ], there are ZERO sentences about the Sámi. You had better go change it. ] has a single paragraph about the Breton language, and a single sentence about early Gaelic inhabitants. ] has a section about the Irish language in Dublin. There is just as much which could be written about Lushootseed in Seattle, but that of course wouldn't be related to the article, would it? ] has a few "unrelated" sentences about the Maori. ] has a large section devoted to its native peoples.		:::Lushootseed is a language, not a people. How many sentences would it take for you to think the history warrants mention? In ], there are ZERO sentences about the Sámi. You had better go change it. ] has a single paragraph about the Breton language, and a single sentence about early Gaelic inhabitants. ] has a section about the Irish language in Dublin. There is just as much which could be written about Lushootseed in Seattle, but that of course wouldn't be related to the article, would it? ] has a few "unrelated" sentences about the Maori. ] has a large section devoted to its native peoples.
	:::The double standard here is showing. Native history belongs in articles. Regardless of how much is written, the consensus on Misplaced Pages is that Native history belongs. If you want me to write more about Indigenous history in Seattle, I sure can do that. ] (]) 16:29, 18 October 2023 (UTC)		:::The double standard here is showing. Native history belongs in articles. Regardless of how much is written, the consensus on Misplaced Pages is that Native history belongs. If you want me to write more about Indigenous history in Seattle, I sure can do that. ] (]) 16:29, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
			::::Yes, yes, the Indians were everywhere, up and down the coast, in tiny numbers, or seasonal settlements, leaving behind traces of archaeological remnants, and now they comprise a tiny percentage of the population. This article's association with the various tribes who migrated through the area hardly merits mention in the first sentence. ] (]) 17:19, 18 October 2023 (UTC)

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2021: First Population Decline in 50 years

Update History and Demographics sections to outline in 2021 Seattle, and King County, experienced their first population decline in 50 years.

Source: https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/data/while-seattles-population-declined-another-king-county-city-saw-fastest-growth-in-wa/ NateJ.Wiki (talk) 21:22, 29 June 2022 (UTC)

Are you autoconfirmed yet? Could you add this to the article? Dennis Dartman (talk) 10:42, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

Looks like I am now (autoconfirmed). I will add the update. NateJ.Wiki (talk) 15:14, 29 July 2022 (UTC)

Added wikilink - List of people from Seattle

For now, I placed wikilink List of people from Seattle at "See also" section. Some articles have a "Notable people" section instead of the wikilink. In the future, anyone is welcome to move the List wikilink to another spot in the article if need be. JoeNMLC (talk) 12:07, 3 August 2022 (UTC)

Seattle is not seaport town it's on a sound not a sea or ocean

Change seaport town to port town 71.126.175.186 (talk) 23:16, 4 August 2022 (UTC)

The word seaport in the lead is actually linked, just as I have again done there, to Port. That article quite adequately addresses your concerns. HiLo48 (talk) 02:52, 5 August 2022 (UTC)

It is a seaport. seaport means salt water port. The port of Seattle website calls it a seaport many times. Also it is on a sea, the Salish sea, which the puget found is a part of 97.126.85.208 (talk) 19:55, 29 July 2023 (UTC)

Native Language of Seattle

Lushootseed is the native language of the Seattle area. A place's native language is closely associated with that place. It has been in use for thousands of years and continues to be used in the community. It is not just a random language. Like any other article, the native language translation can appear in the lead. @Magnolia677 PersusjCP (talk) 22:08, 17 October 2023 (UTC)

Furthermore, see other cities like:

- Pamplona, where the native language Basque is used

- Dublin, where the native Irish is used

- Canberra, where the native Ngunnawal is used

- Auckland, where the native Maori is used

- Rennes, where the native Breton is used

- Luleå, where the native Sámi is used.

Misplaced Pages has established a precedent for the addition of the native language of the land and people who are Indigenous to the city and area, regardless if the language is majority-spoken (It certainly isn't in most cases) or even discussed in the article at all, although most feature a paragraph or two regarding the languages. To me, a disqualifying factor is for an ancient people who no longer exist, such as the Romans, Goths, etc, where inclusion of those relevant languages would go somewhere in the article where they are discussed, which happens on a great deal of articles. However, this isn't the case with Lushootseed, for the Indigenous people of Seattle, the Duwamish, still exist in the form of several organized tribes, and the language is still spoken in those communities to this day. PersusjCP (talk) 23:28, 17 October 2023 (UTC)

@PersusjCP: MOS:LEADLANG states: "if the subject of the article is closely associated with a non-English language, a single foreign language equivalent name may be included in the lead sentence, usually in parentheses. For example, an article about a location in a non-English-speaking country will typically include the local-language equivalent. In this article, the Duwamish people are mentioned in one sentence, and the Lushootseed are mentioned in one sentence. Moreover, the Native American population of Seattle is 0.4 percent. Hardly comparable to Gaelic in Dublin! I think you have misinterpreted to the policy. Would you consider reverting your edit? Magnolia677 (talk) 15:13, 18 October 2023 (UTC)

Lushootseed is a language, not a people. How many sentences would it take for you to think the history warrants mention? In Luleå, there are ZERO sentences about the Sámi. You had better go change it. Rennes has a single paragraph about the Breton language, and a single sentence about early Gaelic inhabitants. Dublin has a section about the Irish language in Dublin. There is just as much which could be written about Lushootseed in Seattle, but that of course wouldn't be related to the article, would it? Auckland has a few "unrelated" sentences about the Maori. Canberra has a large section devoted to its native peoples.

The double standard here is showing. Native history belongs in articles. Regardless of how much is written, the consensus on Misplaced Pages is that Native history belongs. If you want me to write more about Indigenous history in Seattle, I sure can do that. PersusjCP (talk) 16:29, 18 October 2023 (UTC)

Yes, yes, the Indians were everywhere, up and down the coast, in tiny numbers, or seasonal settlements, leaving behind traces of archaeological remnants, and now they comprise a tiny percentage of the population. This article's association with the various tribes who migrated through the area hardly merits mention in the first sentence. Magnolia677 (talk) 17:19, 18 October 2023 (UTC)

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