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::Seems to support Somaliland's inclusion. Otherwise, we should remove Somaliland from this article since it has no recognition as a state. ] (]) 04:52, 3 August 2023 (UTC) ::Seems to support Somaliland's inclusion. Otherwise, we should remove Somaliland from this article since it has no recognition as a state. ] (]) 04:52, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
:::Somaliland meets the criteria for inclusion in this article even if its sovereignty has not been recognized by any other sovereign state (it is often regarded as satisfying the declarative theory of statehood). ] (]) 13:21, 8 August 2023 (UTC) :::Somaliland meets the criteria for inclusion in this article even if its sovereignty has not been recognized by any other sovereign state (it is often regarded as satisfying the declarative theory of statehood). ] (]) 13:21, 8 August 2023 (UTC)
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Somaliland is now recognised by the Republic of China (Taiwan)

Request for change to list item for Somaliland to reflect this 123.243.26.26 (talk) 04:46, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

Please see the discussion at Talk:List of states with limited recognition/Archive 14#Somaliland and Taiwan. CMD (talk) 05:39, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
Seems to support Somaliland's inclusion. Otherwise, we should remove Somaliland from this article since it has no recognition as a state. 2001:8003:900C:5301:ED5E:AD76:97D7:6D20 (talk) 04:52, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
Somaliland meets the criteria for inclusion in this article even if its sovereignty has not been recognized by any other sovereign state (it is often regarded as satisfying the declarative theory of statehood). AuH2ORepublican (talk) 13:21, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

"Unrecognized" spelling inconsistent

Both Unrecognized and Unrecognised are used. Consistency is needed A3811 (talk) 14:28, 24 April 2023 (UTC)

Unrecognized is the standard spelling. 2001:8003:900C:5301:ED5E:AD76:97D7:6D20 (talk) 04:49, 3 August 2023 (UTC)

Scotland??

Why isn’t Scotland listed? Coronaverification (talk) 06:49, 22 July 2023 (UTC)

Because its sovereignty lies in its constituency within the wider United Kingdom. Iskandar323 (talk) 09:47, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
Because it is not a sovereign state. Don't worry though, it will become one in the future. It is inevitable. 2001:8003:900C:5301:ED5E:AD76:97D7:6D20 (talk) 04:48, 3 August 2023 (UTC)

Congos

Revert the names of both Congos2607:FEA8:F420:F400:E4D9:E55E:9F9C:83F2 (talk) 01:45, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

Chechen Republic of Ichkeria should be in "other states" category

In 2022 UN-member Ukraine recognised Chechen Republic of Ichkeria as independent nation. While it does not possess territory or population due to 100% of its territory being controlled by Russian Federation, it still is a partially-recognised state. It should be put in "Other States" category. SOROSHENKO (talk) 18:42, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

Declared states which do not control territory are not listed here, even if they are recognized by a state. Otherwise this page would need to start engaging with micronation claims. Ichkeria met the criteria for inclusion prior to its takeover by Russia, but that predated the existence of this page.Astrofreak92 (talk) 23:02, 4 October 2023 (UTC)
How many micronations are recognised by UN founding members? SOROSHENKO (talk) 10:24, 7 October 2023 (UTC)
Astrofreak92 is incorrect, the page would include states which have recognition but lack control (or does include perhaps, depending on how you define it). All states for which we have firm sources noting recognition are in this list. Ukraine has not recognized Ichkeria as a state, despite some claims on particular news cites. If Ukraine did recognize them, expect far more coverage. CMD (talk) 10:52, 7 October 2023 (UTC)
This is not true. My comment at AfD applies here:

Ukraine has not recognized the Chechen Republic of Ichkeria. "As of 18 October 2022, the decision of the Verkhovna Rada to recognize the Chechen Republic of Ichkeria as temporarily occupied by Russia awaits the signature of President Volodymyr Zelenskyy.... In early November, Zelenskyy responded to the Verkhovna Rada's vote and a petition with 25,000 signatures by ordering the Ukrainian Ministry of Foreign Affairs to research if, how, and in which form Ukraine could recognize the Chechen Republic of Ichkeria. He emphasized that it was the Ukrainian President's prerogative to extend full diplomatic recognition to other states." Therefore the Chechen Republic of Ichkeria does not fall under the constitutive theory. It no longer falls under the declarative theory, since it had lost all of its defined territory, permanent population, and effective government in the Second Chechen War... As far as I can tell, "Zelenskyy responded to the Verkhovna Rada's vote and a petition with 25,000 signatures by ordering the Ukrainian Ministry of Foreign Affairs to research if, how, and in which form Ukraine could recognize the Chechen Republic of Ichkeria. He emphasized that it was the Ukrainian President's prerogative to extend full diplomatic recognition to other states." i.e., no recognition. And regardless, the very lead of the CHRI article says this: "The Chechen Republic of Ichkeria was a de facto state that controlled most of the former Checheno-Ingush ASSR. Since the 2000s, several entities have claimed to be an exile government of Ichkeria." Its description in the wiki search says "former unrecognized country". Enwiki itself makes it clear this was a state that no longer exists.

JM2023 (talk) 02:04, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
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