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The article is almost exclusively presenting the western-albanian view on the subject. However, there is a good volume of islamic/ottoman historiography on Sk., claiming that the western is "propaganda". Of course the islamic historiography can also be characterized as "propaganda", but the spirit of WP is to present all views, so as to produce the famous "neutral p.o.v.". Would it be proper to open a section presenting the islamic (or pro-Ottoman / Turkish) point of view? ] (]) 19:15, 22 October 2023 (UTC) | The article is almost exclusively presenting the western-albanian view on the subject. However, there is a good volume of islamic/ottoman historiography on Sk., claiming that the western is "propaganda". Of course the islamic historiography can also be characterized as "propaganda", but the spirit of WP is to present all views, so as to produce the famous "neutral p.o.v.". Would it be proper to open a section presenting the islamic (or pro-Ottoman / Turkish) point of view? ] (]) 19:15, 22 October 2023 (UTC) | ||
:Your point being? ] (]) 12:25, 26 October 2023 (UTC) | |||
KOPAŃSKI, A. B. (1997). ISLAMIZATION OF ALBANIANS IN THE MIDDLE AGES: THE PRIMARY SOURCES AND THE PREDICAMENT OF THE MODERN HISTORIOGRAPHY. Islamic Studies, 36(2/3), 191–208. http://www.jstor.org/stable/23076194 | KOPAŃSKI, A. B. (1997). ISLAMIZATION OF ALBANIANS IN THE MIDDLE AGES: THE PRIMARY SOURCES AND THE PREDICAMENT OF THE MODERN HISTORIOGRAPHY. Islamic Studies, 36(2/3), 191–208. http://www.jstor.org/stable/23076194 |
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view · edit Frequently asked questions Q1: Was Skanderbeg Albanian? A1: Yes, Skanderbeg was an Albanian feudal lord from the Albanian House of Kastrioti. Q2: What language did they speak in Albania during Skanderbeg's lifetime? A2: Skanderbeg's native language was Albanian. In the Balkans Italian, Greek, Vlach, Latin, South Slavic languages and Ottoman Turkish were also common during Skanderbeg's lifetime. Q3: What was the background of Skanderbeg's mother? A3: Primary sources refer to her as being from Polog, most likely being the Polog valley in modern day North Macedonia. It has also been argued that another Polog, closer to the town of Bitola in the plain of Pelagonia may be the location of the Polog mentioned by Barleti. There is debate among different scholars of whether Skanderbeg's mother was related to the Muzaka family, most likely of Albanian descent, or of the Serb Branković dynasty, or of an unknown Bulgarian family. There is, however, no mention of Voisava on the Branković dynasty family tree. Q4: Was Skanderbeg a Roman Catholic? A4: Gjergj Kastrioti Skanderbeg was a Roman Catholic in the period from 1444 to his death in 1468. In the period prior to 1444, he had converted to Islam. The exact date of his conversion is unclear but it must have been between 1426 and 1431. His father, Gjon Kastrioti changed his religion several times (Roman Catholic/Christian Orthodox/Muslim). Q5: What was Skanderbeg's real name and who were his parents? A5: His real name was Gjergj Kastrioti, Gjergj is the Albanian version of the name George. His father was Gjon Kastrioti and his mother's name was Voisava Kastrioti |
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Mother and Father
Father buried in ortodox monastry Hilandar, mother Vojislava born Brankovic, sisters Mara, Jelena broter Stanisa. How he can be hero of Albania when something like region, country or kingdom or and writen proof about albanian language dont exist from that time? 87.116.164.2 (talk) 21:27, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
- Cheap amatoresque arguements from the victims of serbian propaganda have no place in wikipedia. Read learn then come back. RoyalHeritageAlb (talk) 22:53, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
- Father buried in a orthodox church but he proudly fought for the Catholic Church all his life. Where do you get your facts? 92.34.171.166 (talk) 04:07, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
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I would like to add a painting of GKS made by Kole Idromeno aka the Albanian Michelangelo in 1890 and about its whereabouts. Source: http://www.panorama.com.al/te-pathenat-e-51-piktoreve-shqiptare-zbulohet-koleksioni/ Jansenbas1 (talk) 05:01, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Pinchme123 (talk) 02:06, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
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If Albania was founded and established as a country in 1912 how is possible that he was Albanian in that time? Albania didn't exist? 2601:151:C301:3340:3147:880:F58E:19CF (talk) 22:07, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. see Albanian principalities Cannolis (talk) 22:52, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
The islamic view
The article is almost exclusively presenting the western-albanian view on the subject. However, there is a good volume of islamic/ottoman historiography on Sk., claiming that the western is "propaganda". Of course the islamic historiography can also be characterized as "propaganda", but the spirit of WP is to present all views, so as to produce the famous "neutral p.o.v.". Would it be proper to open a section presenting the islamic (or pro-Ottoman / Turkish) point of view? Skylax30 (talk) 19:15, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- Your point being? RoyalHeritageAlb (talk) 12:25, 26 October 2023 (UTC)
KOPAŃSKI, A. B. (1997). ISLAMIZATION OF ALBANIANS IN THE MIDDLE AGES: THE PRIMARY SOURCES AND THE PREDICAMENT OF THE MODERN HISTORIOGRAPHY. Islamic Studies, 36(2/3), 191–208. http://www.jstor.org/stable/23076194
- Ivan Kastrioti, serbo-albanian war lord (p. 195).
- The clans of southern and central Albanians refused to join Skanderbeg.
- Kastrioti and others received every year 1.400 golden ducats from the Pope.
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Birthdate --> 6 May 1405
Source --> http://www.panorama.com.al/turqia-verteton-origjinen-shqiptare-te-skenderbeut-dokumentari-turk-si-i-mundi-dy-sulltanet-e-shek-xv-studiuesi-u-quajt-iskender-bey-si-pasardhes-i-aleksandrit-te-madh/ 2001:4BB8:100:382D:0:0:4DD8:875C (talk) 15:22, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
- There is no document stating he was born in that day, only that St. George is celebrated, and because he is called George, he must have been born on 6 May. So in my opinion, you should not edit it that way. ShockedSkater (talk) 20:14, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{Edit semi-protected}}
template. PianoDan (talk) 22:10, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
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