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Twisted Metal 4 music

As a player of Twisted Metal 4, I happen to know that the song: Closing Time is the song played in the Neon City level.

Time's Running Out is the one played in the next level.

Cypress Hill does Closing Time in Neon City.

(Minion1112)Minion1112(Minion1112) — Preceding undated comment added 16:47, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

LENS

I believe LENS (the new technology) should also be listed on the Lens page...

see www.ochslabs.com

thanks

chris collins, st. louis — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.107.123.78 (talk • contribs) 14:10, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

List of Wikipedians by number of total starsList of users by number of total stars

I have just started a article with the title mentioned above. Perhaps it would be interesting contributing\starting with me to this list; it might be fun if their is some kind of a competition between several users, to be on top of that list! Maybe some people would go and work harder, do more, contribute more, and vandalise less! Not take it 'too seriously; its just for fun, and feel free to add yourself to the list! So, what do you say?

the Old and respectable Kashwialariski 16:09, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Footballers - Mere Curiosity

Not sure if this has been brought up before, and didn't really know an effective way to search, but I noticed that there is a large number of articles about "footballers" (aka "soccer players") being posted lately. Being an American who doesn't follow international football, I personally have no way of knowing notability of these players, and I can only assume the same can be said for the vast majority of North American editors. I wasn't sure if footballers were considered "encyclopedia material" or not, especially as there seems to be a very large number of teams all across the world. Maybe I am just an un-cultured American, but it seems to me that these articles are no different than if I were to list every player for every minor-league and farm baseball team in the United States. Please don't get me wrong, I really have nothing against soccer/football. This is just something I have been pondering for a while.  F  Aviation  S  U - T - C 19:46, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

The numbers are high because pretty much every country on the planet has a national team who's memebers are noteable. Any country of any reasonable size his a top devision all of who's players are likely noteable (certianly there will be no shortage of information writen about them). Below that level the judgement cal becomes harder but every player in say the UK championship is probably noteable. Where exactly the line is drawn will depend on the country ( in the case of the UK I would probably go for the confrence) You've got to remeber that world wide association football is a much bigger than any US sport. Another difference is that all the leagues tend to be connected. It is technicaly posible for a team playing at local sunday league level to over rather a lot of years get promoted to the top league in the country. Won't happen but it is posible.Geni 20:03, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

If you have concerns over any specific articles, drop a note at WikiProject Football. The usual guideline is Misplaced Pages:Notability (people). Oldelpaso 14:41, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

What about non-existing links?

I frequently am finding articles which contain internal links to non-existent articles. Of course, these appear in red on the article page. Should these links be removed? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by J. Bryant Evans (talk • contribs) 18:40, 14 March 2007 (UTC).

Usually, no - they're a prod for editors to create new articles. Click on the link and create away! - DavidWBrooks 18:42, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

See Misplaced Pages:Red link. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 00:02, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Interesting poll on the German Misplaced Pages

Well, I figure here is as good a place as any to mention this. On the German Misplaced Pages, an interesting proposal was made: article creation is to be disabled for one week per month, and the time is spent improving the quality of existing articles. Unfortunately, the conservatism and wariness towards bold new ideas that we're stricken with on enwiki carries over there - and the proposal is being soundly trounced at 173-93 against. More than that, I can't say, because I know approximately ten words of German; the poll is at de:Misplaced Pages:Meinungsbilder/Nichts Neues for anyone whose interested. Picaroon 01:55, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Different language Wikipedias have different rules. What ever the poll may be on the German Misplaced Pages has no effect on what happens on the English language Misplaced Pages. And I can't see that ever flying here. Corvus cornix 04:53, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Also, not every contributor to Misplaced Pages is good at improving articles. We should not prevent good-faith edits from occuring when we can help it. Sorry if you weren't interested in opinions, but I thought I might offer mine. Captain panda In vino veritas 01:28, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

A question from sweden

Hello, in the swedish version of wikipedia the administrators have begun using their administrative powers to ensure that the content of the articles are in their own personal liking. This expresses itself in the form that they may for example remove scientific sources which results they dislike and those who dare to protest get blocked if they dare to try to stop it. My question is simple, did something like this ever happened here and how did you solve it? And if not, is there any advice you could give for how to solve problems as these? Thanks. Drogheda 20:35, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Not a long-term Wikipedian so I wouldn't know, but if you have a problem with another Misplaced Pages, go to them first. If that doesn't work, I suppose you can go to m:We need your help, m:Meta:Babel or contact User:Jimbo Wales personally. x42bn6 Talk 23:26, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll try one of your links aswell. More comments are welcome. Drogheda 00:17, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Just so you know, I have no idea of the response time on Meta so if you don't get a reply you might want to talk to svwiki's Ambassadors if you haven't done so - in this case, m:User:Dan Koehl and m:User:Pralin m:User:Snillet/sv:User:Pralin. See m:Wikimedia_Embassy#S. x42bn6 Talk 13:45, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

( ... Pralin just left Misplaced Pages. ... ) --83.253.36.136 09:11, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

A Question (complaint) from Tacoma, Washington

Well, I find that I'm starting to learn a very tiny little bit about how this website works. A little bit ago, I submitted the "question" (complaint) below. At that time, I failed to note the box where one is suposed to write a subject title, so my "question" wound up appearing attached to a question that has been posted under the title: "A queston from sweden" I happened solely by accident to sumble upon its presence there. (Being of Swedish ancestory, I was curious enough to read that question.) So now I am posting my "question" (complaint) all over again with a proper subject title. I guess this is also where I'm suposed to look for a reply to my complaint.

. . . . The "question" (complaint) . . . . Earlier this evening, I made a one word correction to a factual error in an article. I followed the instructions---as I understood them---to edit the error and explain my change. The change did not take. The article is still in error. It still has my home town located in the wrong part of the state. I used this same forum (at least I believe it was this forum) to note the problem I experienced. After submitting my "complaint," I suddenly realized I had no idea where to look for a reply. I have looked all over the Misplaced Pages site to try and find the answer to my second question, where do I look for a reply, but (as I complained in my earlier "complaint"), this site is too complicated for this 79 year old geezer to comprehend. I can find no simple answer to that question. So now I have no idea where to look for a reply to this complaint either. So I guess the article will just have to remain with the error in it unless someone else catches the error and has the knowledge as to how to correct it. 24.19.92.118 02:34, 20 March 2007 (UTC)William J. Erickson

Unless the article is currently protected, you should be able to fix the problem. First, go to the article, click the "edit this page" tab, and correct the error. Then write in the summary box a short explanation of what you are doing, and click "Save page". Finally, to get sure your change was "taken", click the "history" tab, and check if you see your IP (which right now is 24.19.92.118) in the list of contributions, as the newest one. If so, the article has just been corrected. And yes, usually when you edit in a page, you should check the same page for the answer. -- ReyBrujo 02:42, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Can you tell us what edit you made? I don't find any edits to the Tacoma, Washington article which meet the criteria you indicated. Was it a different article? Corvus cornix 17:20, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Looking to interview Wikipedians

Researcher seeking to interview Misplaced Pages contributors of any and all levels of experience and involvement. In-depth, one hour interviews will be conducted over the phone or email beginning March 27. Compensation for your time will be provided – a $10 gift certificate to Amazon.com. Must be 18+ and U.S. resident. Contact Benjamin Johnson, Department of Telecommunication, Information Studies and Media, Michigan State University, by email at john2429@msu.edu or by phone at 517.230.1272.

John2429 16:23, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Final Fantasy Forever

Who is your Favorite Final Fantasy Character and why? My favorite character is Tidus because he kicks but at blitzball.Gogoboi662 18:22, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

This isn't the appropriate place for this discussion. I'm not sure there is any place on Misplaced Pages that is the appropriate place for this discussion. Maybe on your User Talk page or a subpage of your User space. Corvus cornix 18:39, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Things requiring daily maintainence

Tennisdude92 wants Yone Minagawa‎'s current age in years + days to be included in the article, and this would require daily maintainence. Anyone have any info?? Georgia guy 22:54, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Replied on Talk:Yone Minagawa. —W. Flake (talk) 23:47, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

... in popular culture

Could someone write an essay which explains why we don't need ... in popular culture sections in articles or as their own article? The Placebo Effect 20:50, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

But we do. - DavidWBrooks 21:35, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

See the featured list Cultural depictions of Joan of Arc. It began as one of those ... in popular culture sections. When well developed, that sort of page has several values. It can serve as a starting point for an art history student's research or a comparative literature term paper. Teachers and parents can make use of it to introduce a historical topic to a child in an accessible way (a whole lot of people got their first introduction to composer Richard Wagner through the Apocalypse Now soundtrack or a Bugs Bunny cartoon). Misplaced Pages is uniquely suited to documenting references in new media: when I researched the Joan of Arc list ours was the only one of its type to include manga, graphic novels, anime, and computer games. For a comparison of how equivalent information got disregarded as ephemera until it was very difficult to retrieve, note that in the late twentieth century a doctoral dissertation was necessary to list all occurrences of Joan of Arc in cinema. Had Misplaced Pages existed a century ago - and had people recognized value in such information - that would be easily retrievable for everyone. Misplaced Pages should exist in 2107. Let's not eradicate this information willy-nilly. Durova 22:38, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Wow - well said. Eliminating "ephemera" is a symptom of the we-needtobe-taken-more-seriously ailment that often afflicts denizens of wikipedia. Having said that, I'll agree that the "popular culture" sections attract far more than their share of guff, vandalism and idiocy. But that's not a reason to get rid of them. - DavidWBrooks 23:20, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

The old popular culture section at Joan of Arc collected entries for two years without any particular editorial oversight. The information was disorganized, incomplete, and occasionally repetitive. Many of the entries needed copyediting. Yet not a single one of them proved false when I researched the verifications for featured article candidacy. Durova 02:23, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

On the other hand, many "in popular culture" sections are full of truly trivial references. The article on Wagner should not be burdened with a mention of every single "You-Tube" vidio that uses something he wrote in it's soundtrack. There does need to be some criteria for inclusion ... some degree of cultural relevance and notability. Blueboar 13:51, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

That's absolutely true. But YouTube links are almost never suitable at Misplaced Pages. That material isn't notable unless it gets covered in the mainstream press (as happened with a recent political ad). WP:NOT, WP:RS, and WP:V all apply. A television episode, on the other hand, gets watched by millions of people. Yes, The Simpsons once aired a parody with Lisa Simpson in the role of Joan of Arc. If a teacher plays that DVD to get the class interested in French history, maybe they won't fall asleep during the lecture. Durova 21:39, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Edits to articles for SD

What happens to the edits for articles I nominate for SD? I do this frequently, yet after the article is deleted, the edit doesn't appear in my contributions list. The Placebo Effect 01:05, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

If an article is deleted, all of your contributions to the article are removed from your contributions list. This is because if they stayed in your contribs list, someone could look at the diffs and read the text of the deleted article. mrholybrain's talk 12:47, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

So there is no doccumention of those edits? I frequently spend time New Page Patroling for SD articles. I'll keep doing it, but I'd like to know that those edits are still visable somehow. The Placebo Effect

They are visible to administrators. The edits aren't gone, just marked as deleted and thus invisible to non-sysop users. Angus McLellan (Talk) 21:23, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

However, I remember one of the edit counters running off the toolserver could count deleted edits. How does that work? mrholybrain's talk 01:44, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Absolutely. Tools such as http://tools.wikimedia.de/~interiot/cgi-bin/count_edits do it by querying a replica of the database directly, and can give a count of deleted edits. However, the replica of the English-language Misplaced Pages's database they use was last updated on 23 January 2007, so the information is a bit outdated. For other language Wikipedias, the replication delay varies from a few hours or a few days.

Things like the http://tools.wikimedia.de/~interiot/cgi-bin/Tool1/wannabe_kate? edit counter work by scraping the "my contributions" directly from Misplaced Pages, so no deleted edits are counted by these, but they are up-to-date. Angus McLellan (Talk) 10:11, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

So the toolserver has the deleted page tables? mrholybrain's talk 10:13, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

It may not have all the details, but it has some. But I would be surprised if the oversighted (Misplaced Pages:Oversight) edits were replicated. Angus McLellan (Talk) 10:38, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

It can't replicate oversighted edits if they are removed from the database. And from the wording about only developers being able to restore oversighted edits, it sounds like that is true. mrholybrain's talk 14:02, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

What happened to List of English prefixes, suffixes...???

I don't know if this is the place to talk about deleted Wiki articles... Why was List of English prefixes deleted? I thought at first it had been transwikied, but there's no page like this over there, either! I tried looking for other articles that I remember having visited too, like List of English suffixes or something, but now I can't find anything remotely similar!

What reason could there be for deleting a feature that is usual for physical encyclopedias (at least as appendices)? Is there a better place than this to complain about this? (I'm not sure how effective would requesting for this article again be...) Thanks... Kreachure 20:58, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

It was deleted in October 2006. I don't know why. Georgia guy 20:59, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

It was moved to Wiktionary. It is now at wikt:Appendix:English prefixes. You can trace the fate of transikied articles on Wiktionary by going to wikt:Wiktionary:Transwiki log. Hope this helps. Angus McLellan (Talk) 21:21, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Oh, that's great! So now instead of an article that explained the meaning and uses of the prefixes, we have a useless list that doesn't explain anything! That was no 'move', that is just unjustified deleting. And Misplaced Pages is not a dictionary is not good enough of an excuse, because it was not just an appendix of words, it was a list with encyclopedic information. Check the appropiate guidelines at the "not dictionary" guideline page if you want, you'll see that an article like this isn't simply "for a dictionary". Kreachure 22:26, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

There's nothing preventing the creation of an article on affixes in English, so long as it isn't "substantially similar" to the one that was deleted. Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Log/2006 October 2#List of English prefixes has a pretty strong consensus for transwikying, so it would be hard to describe the deletion as "unjustified". Angus McLellan (Talk) 23:46, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

The transwiki was agreed upon, but as of today the corresponding page in Wiktionary doesn't exist anymore. That's why I said that the move was unjustified: because the move led to the complete deletion of the information on any Wikimedia project. As for creating a new page similar to this one, it seems Greek and Latin roots in English is trying to do just that, but since the original list was deleted, they started from scratch, and still have a long ways to go. I already pointed them there to the original list. All of this points me to say that even if some ten people agreed that the list was to be transwikied, and then someone else decided to get rid of it completely, the fact that some of us (including those making the new list) want it back in Misplaced Pages means that the deletion of the information was indeed unjustified in the first place. Kreachure 00:26, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

You can recover some of the content by using the Internet Archives, but I would have to agree that this doesn't explain why it was deleted on Wiktionary. I would note that in general this is a huge problem on Misplaced Pages, where transwikied content is often not accepted into the target project. In addition, even under the best of circumstances and intentions, the act of moving content can get mixed up (or have an incomplete import) and data will still be lost. That you know about this problem means that you can also try to fix it. Certainly there should be much more information (and encyclopedic information) than what exists in this 2005 snapshot of this page. --Robert Horning 00:56, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

The content continues to exist and can be edited on Wiktionary by any interested person. wikt:Transwiki:List of English Prefixes contains the complete history of the page, as required by the transwiki process. In contrast, the Internet Archive version has no article history and is unusable as the GFDL requires that authors be credited, which is not possible without the history. Angus McLellan (Talk) 01:17, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject Spam actively promotes violating WP:CIV, WP:AGF and WP:Consensus

I'd appreciate third-party comments on what I think is the strong suggestion on the Spam project's page that its members don't need to abide by the assume good faith guideline and comments on the project page that seem to denigrate WP:Civility and WP:Consensus. I'm trying to resolve this by stating my case on the Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Spam page, and the response has been disappointing.

I know I sound like a crank to even bring this up: Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Spam is featured on Misplaced Pages's Community contents page, and if I was reading some other editor asserting that a project group was denigrating one of the "five pillars" of Misplaced Pages (Civility) on its project page, my first thought would be that the editor was probably wrong and probably a crank. Here's the short version of my case:

Much (not all) of the project page has a tone I'd call beligerant. That's not altogether bad, and I can see a good motive in describing the group as a "spam fighting" force, for instance, but you go too far when you butt up against Misplaced Pages rules:

spammers love to take advantage of the fact that Wikipedians assume good faith, luring us into discussing their links with them "on the merits" as if they had nothing but the good of Misplaced Pages at heart.

Except that as a Wikipedian you're supposed to assume good faith. This sentence appears to be a suggestion not to engage in discussions. If you think someone is spamming and you revert the edits, you should be able to discuss the matter on the merits. I've brought up the fact that there's actually no good purpose to this sentence other than to violate Misplaced Pages policy, and no one on the talk page has contradicted me. But they don't want to get rid of the sentence. So I'm coming here hoping that the wider community might comment. If we're going to have a policy and then our prestigious project teams are going to promote violations of it, we should either change the policy or fix the violations.

My other objections are minor compared to that sentence, but taken together they add up to encouragement to violate WP:CIV and WP:Consensus, and that's the way I've found some project members acting. If you're interested, the full discussion is at

Rumba and Rhumba

Whoever has written the article Rumba, an afro Cuban form of music based on drumming and chants, has got it confused with Rhumba a 1950s Cuban American form of jazz that is not the same thing, (Check this to confirm). The article Rumba therefore mixes the two in a way that is too difficult to extract on first glance. It needs to be rectified fast because its a major error on the part of wikipedia. Help would be welcomed.-- Zleitzen 05:04, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Zleitzen, I'd like to try and help. Should we discuss this more at Talk:Rumba? --Iamunknown 17:01, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Tom Wilson

I hope this is the right place for this type of thing, I wasn't sure where else to put it. I've already mentioned it on the discussion page for two of the articles in question, but I wanted to mention it somewhere that others would see it, not just those checking the specific articles.

When I typed "Tom Wilson" into the search field and hit "Go", I was looking for the Back to the Future actor, but instead I was lead to the producer. Now, I know that there's a small group of people on the producer's discussion page hailing him as a hero and whatnot, but is he really the primary Tom Wilson that someone should be automatically taken to when looking up the article for that name? Between the aforementioned actor and the Ziggy cartoonist, I submit that there's no real justification to say that any of these 3 is necessarily more likely than the others to be the person someone's looking for when they look up the name. I propose that the article currently called "Tom Wilson" be renamed to Tom Wilson (producer), and that Tom Wilson be changed to redirect to the Thomas Wilson disambig page. It might also be a good idea to start removing some of the people from the list, since more than half of the links are currently red. - Ugliness Man 10:36, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Here's one thought: Have you tried comparing Google search results? Take the name in quotes (the common name "Tom Wilson" or "Thomas Wilson" might be best, but I'm not sure) and in different searches use a single word associated with only one of these people (for instance, movies that only the producer or actor were involved in but not both), then do a search with the name of the cartoonist and, I guess, Ziggy. If none of the results are enormously bigger than all the others, you've got some evidence to show other editors why it would be a good idea. I'd make the argument on the Tom Wilson page. It's up to you to decide if it's worth the effort, of course. As to removing people from the red links, the question I ask myself is: would it be more useful to readers if this stays or if it goes? Noroton 18:47, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the idea. I did Google searches on both names, and the evidence seems to support my position. The only links relevant to the producer are links to the current Misplaced Pages article. I reported a more detailed version of my findings on the talk pages for both relevant articles, and if there are no convincing arguments to the contrary in the next few days, I will "be bold" and begin the moving/renaming process myself.

As for the red links, I'll leave those alone, since someone may consider one or more of them article-worthy any day now. - Ugliness Man 23:18, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Average Watchlist Size

Just out of sheer curiosity, is there some ancient poll somewhere that asked people how many articles are on their watchlist? Is there some commonly accepted number, or formula (i.e. Edit count / 100)? --Ybbor 21:03, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Never heard of one, though I'd be interested to know as well. (Mine is 2120 right now, and I cleaned a couple hundred redlinks off of it yesterday.) --tjstrf talk 21:07, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

I think it would be nearly impossible to get an "average" of any sort, but if you're curious, mine is currently 97. I wish there was some way for Wikipedians to allow others to see their watchlist. - Ugliness Man 21:13, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

I am not sure if that information is public (as in, it is found in the database dumps), although administrators can see a list of articles that are not being watched (as in, no contributor having it in a watchlist). In my case, the "formula" would be edit count / 10 (3000 items, and I always try to keep it as close to 3000 as possible, because that is my limit, around 500 items in a 3-day watchlist). -- ReyBrujo 23:16, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Ugh, how can you people stand such large watchlists? I can barely survive with my 700-or-so watchlist. My "number of days to show in watchlist" option in Special:Preferences is set to 0.010416666667...which I forgot how many minutes that is. --Iamunknown 23:19, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

A lot of the pages on mine are redirects, old AfD discussions, deleted pages, talk archives, etc. that really shouldn't need to be edited much if at all. They don't clutter the watchlist view, but in the rare cases where someone vandalizes an old AfD or archive, or recreates some long-dead POV rant page, there's a chance I'll notice. --tjstrf talk 01:41, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Maybe I'm a fool, but I only have 38 pages on mine. Captain panda In vino veritas 23:53, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Worry not, I have 48, having purged about 30 from it because it was too "difficult" to keep watching them all. I guess I am just lazy now, seeing everyone elses' numbers. x42bn6 Talk 16:10, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

I think someone had like 20k (there was a question where his watchlist was missing some items, and wondered if it was due its size). As I said, I notice 3k is the biggest I can handle, that gives around 150 "last changes" to review when I arrive home from work, and review them all in around an hour (giving me like 40 edits, including {{unsigned}} templates, answers, deleting offtopic questions, some vandalism leftovers, and answering talk page). Breaking the total, 90 categories, 1 portal, 80 templates, 1874 articles, 182 pages in the Misplaced Pages namespace and 833 images. So, in my case I can say that, every day, 10% of the articles I have in my watchlist are modified. -- ReyBrujo 01:12, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

I've trimmed mine down to 555 from 1000-ish over the past year, sticking to articles I know something about, losing topics I only find intriguing. Maybe 3/4 are real articles, the rest are redirects etc. I'd love a way to order them by last edit, so I can see what articles that I started are the most dormant. - DavidWBrooks 17:30, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

1500 and counting. From time to time I join in the fun that is WP:NPP, and tend to leave the nonsense pages on my watchlist so I can see when they get recreated. Chris cheese whine 01:57, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

This seems to merit further investigation. When I get back from vacation I'll make a page trying to gather this information on a larger scale. --Ybbor 02:13, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Interesting question. Mine currently stands at 9,108 pages, although I'm attempting to whittle it down somewhat. The majority of pages on my watchlist are either not edited often or are archived debates. However, the number of changes per day is roughly 500-600, so I have my and bot edits hidden to keep it manageable.--cj | talk 10:21, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

FWIW - 4213 articles on mine. I don't check every single one of them, unless it is a suspicious looking edit. -- Chuq 05:39, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Mine's five. It's normally four, though. On that note, I have never seen it enter double figures, ever. At the moment, two articles, one userpage (my own), and two Misplaced Pages pages (one of which is temporary, the "fifth" page). I suspect this is ridiculously low, compared to most administrators and editors :) Daniel Bryant 09:59, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks

I'm not sure where to post this, I just want to say how much I appreciate the quality and utility of Misplaced Pages. I've been using it for many years now.Kevin

You're welcome! :) Durova 01:54, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Messedrocker's Contest

Introducing Messedrocker's Contest, which is centered around improving articles to Good Article status. See that page for more details. —Signed, your friendly neighborhood MessedRocker. 21:04, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Good worthwile contest. Thank you, Messedrocker. Mahanga 21:22, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Regarding unwatched pages

So I've had a look at the rationale for keeping Special:Unwatchedpages restricted to admins, and I have to say I'm still not convinced. What exactly makes this feature so much more vandal-enticing than, say, Randompage? If it were open to us all and well-publicized enough, I'm certain that the added vandalism would be far outweighed by the added attention from conscientious users. In a sense, by definition, these pages would be "unwatched" no longer, or at least far, far less "unwatched" than they were before. What do admins think of Koweja's thought on limiting the visibility to well-established users, as with editing privliges on partially protected pages? ${\displaystyle \sim }$ Lenoxus " * " 09:52, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

It seems like it runs the risk of degrading the quality of the list. Many users would attempt to "adopt" these pages and put them on their watchlist, and eventually there wouldn't be any pages listed at Special:Unwatchedpages. This wouldn't be a problem, but some users might leave and become inactive. While this happens anyway with most pages, these would be pages that have been unable to attract watchers up until now, and are probably unlikely to do so in the future. --Ybbor 12:57, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

I think I'm getting some of the complexities here… it's not like the software yet has the ability to figure out such things, all right. So my next question is, how is the special page useful even to admins, given that they can't tell whether an article's watcher is active? ${\displaystyle \sim }$ Lenoxus " * " 01:55, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Why?

I have never once edited any page on Misplaced Pages, and certainly never vandalised them. I went to edit a page today though, and it told me my IP address was banned. Now first of all, why would I be banned if I never did anything (I only use Misplaced Pages to look up not to edit, except for today when I wanted to add something relevant to an article), and also the IP address it said was banned isn't even my IP address! Please help.

-Inkubus

Please say exactly what the block message says. mrholybrain's talk 16:02, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:We aren't Citizendium

An essay, Misplaced Pages:We aren't Citizendium, has been written in response to a recent blog post by Larry Sanger. Please make appropriate changes and place feedback on the talk page. Written mostly by User:Merzul. Mahanga 21:23, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Money machines

Has anyone noticed the recent proliferation of what is commonly being refered to as money machines? Until recently, money machines, other names include cash booths, cash cubes, wind booths, were an occasional novelty on television game shows. Lately, however, they are being implemented in a wide variety of promotional and marketing venues.

A money machine is a booth that a contestant enters. An air blower is then turned on and paper money, coupons, etc, are blown about the booth. The contestant attempts to grab as much as possible during the alotted time, usually 10-30 seconds. It seems the concept has great appeal not only in the promotions arena but in the employee incentive/awards area as well. One company, .com, even offers a miniature money machine that they claim is very effective at gathering contact info at trade shows, etc.

I would love some feedback from anyone with knowledge about the units and their effectiveness as it relates to sales and increasing customer awareness.

Phridge —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Thephridge (talk • contribs) 04:30, 27 March 2007 (UTC).

Please try Misplaced Pages:Reference desk for specific questions of this nature. I have removed the site link. - BanyanTree 04:53, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Wow

Why was this vandal so famous? Is there a page dedicated to him? What on earth in the history is going on here? 147.197.138.239 11:19, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Scientology overcovered?

Here is Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Scientology which now includes 240 articles. There seem to be about 100,000 Scientologists in the world so there is one article for every about 420 of them. Do you think this is a little bit too much? Thanks. Steve Dufour 11:48, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

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