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• User_talk:Zanimum/Archive_1 (talk until April 5, 2004)
• User talk:Zanimum/Archive 2 (talk until June 9, 2004)
• User talk:Zanimum/Archive 3 (talk until November 25, 2004)
• user talk:Zanimum/Quarto issue 2

Cosplay pictures

Please, please stop putting cosplay pictures into articles where they are not appropriate. I remember the lengthy discussions relating to the leotard article; now you have added a similar image to the maid article. Can you tell me why you consider these images to be appropriate illustrations for these articles? -- The Anome 12:38, Nov 28, 2004 (UTC)

Why aren't these appropriate? For starters, there are no other images of maids available for us to use, so far as I know. Would you not agree that something is better than nothing? Also, when we have many other opportunities to get images of villains and mad scientists, through the marvel of screen captures, we end up with two cartoons. Not only that, but these cartoons are deemed "featured" by the Misplaced Pages community. -- user:zanimum

Reputation

My impression of you was limited to a vague "been around a long time, and reasonably active". You've changed that in one fell swoop.

• Adding to a WP article an ext lk p't-ing to your own column on a pop-under-ing site is not a minor edit
• Failing to remove that lk when you knew it had stopped being a "regular" column is irresponsible, and also serves to further impeach your good intentions.
• If you're really only in your first term of "Advertising and Graphic Design", your fate is not sealed, but it is already time to be thinking about whether you want to be an art director, and of the kind that your colleagues
  • feed with raw meat,
  • keep the client from meeting, and
  • justify with "his stuff always looks great; never mind whether it means anything."

or if you're willing to learn the syntax of English and form the habit of proofreading what you sign.

• Nearly all childless, single, teenage kid-TV enthusiasts are incompetent to write under the heading "Family Entertainment"; the incompetent ones include all those who don't realize that the competent ones need to specifically address that credibility problem.

--Jerzy(t) 16:34, 2004 Nov 29 (UTC)

Go to Google. Type "children's television" in. And if you think that's solely from the extra links Misplaced Pages provides, it's been this way since a month or two before that edit. I get absolutely no profit from this column, I solely volunteer.

When I signed up with Suite, the pop-unders weren't there. Frankly, there were very few ads at all.

As for the lack of new content, give me a break. Ignoring my school work, I've been too busy contributing to Misplaced Pages, and retrofitting my newly adopted Academy Awards column.

Also, it seems to me that you're giving me the blame for being public about my other activities. Before a few weeks ago, I would have been "safe" from you, as my personal info was limited.

What is your problem anyway about the whole "oohhh... you're going to fail!" stuff? Other than a run on sentence, I can't see anything wrong with the syntax of my bio. Even if there was, you are among five people to see the page since the start of the month. Frankly, those others are likely web crawlers. People don't really care about who's giving them the information.

The point is, my articles on Misplaced Pages and Suite101 are factually accurate, and decisively opinionated. I'm not a media fluff-ball like most other family ent outlets. Dr Toy will give anything the stamp of approval, so her name can be touted in press releases and on the video jacket. I give an honest, unbiased opinion that's rare in the preschool DVD field. This has counted for a lot, and quotes from my article have often been used on the manufacturer's websites. -- user:zanimum

"Dr Toy will give anything the stamp of approval, so her name can be touted in press releases and on the video jacket. I give an honest, unbiased opinion that's rare in the preschool DVD field." -- this quote makes my day. +sj +

Article Licensing

Hi, I've started the Free the Rambot Articles Project which has the goals of getting users to multi-license all of their contributions that they've made to...

1. ...all U.S. state, county, and city articles...
2. ...all articles...

using the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike (CC-by-sa) version 1.0 and 2.0 Licenses or into the public domain if they prefer. The CC-by-sa license is a true free documentation license that is similar to the GFDL (which every contribution made to Misplaced Pages is licensed under), but it allows other projects, such as WikiTravel, to use our articles (See the Multi-licensing Guide for more information). Since you are among the top 1000 most active Wikipedians, I was wondering if you would be willing to multi-license all of your contributions or at minimum those on the geographic articles.

Nutshell: Misplaced Pages articles can be shared with any other GFDL project but open/free projects using the incompatible Creative Commons Licenses (e.g. WikiTravel) can't use our stuff and we can't use theirs. It is important to us that other free projects can use our stuff. So we use their licenses too.

To allow us to track those users who muli-license their contributions, many users copy and paste the {{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}} template (or {{MultiLicensePD}} for public domain) into their user page, but there are other templates for other options at Template messages/User namespace. The following examples could also copied and pasted into your user page:

Option 1

I agree to ] all my contributions, with the exception of my user pages, as described below:

{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}

OR

Option 2

I agree to ] all my contributions to any ], county, or city article as described below:

{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}

Or if you wanted to place your work into the public domain, you could replace {{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}} with {{MultiLicensePD}}. If you only prefer using the GFDL, I would like to know that too. Please let me know at my talk page what you think. -- Ram-Man 21:27, Nov 29, 2004 (UTC)

I'm not sure how you would like things dumbed down. What was the confusing part? I'm not sure how else to explain this. -- Ram-Man 21:54, Nov 30, 2004 (UTC)

I understood it, but up until you posted this message, I, and most other Wikipedians didn't know that you could dual license articles, and suddenly we have to respond to how we would like them licensed. Possibly a gentler introduction would have been better. I dunno. -- user:zanimum

Cosplay

Hey, where did you get all the cosplay pictures from? Do you happen to have a list of all the ones on the wikipedia? -Cookiemobsta 06:21, 30 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Primarily SKA.fam.cx -- user:zanimum

A Request

Over at Culture of the United Kingdom one of the main things that is stopping us from putting it forward as a featured article candidate is the fact that the art section is so small (one small paragraph). You have listed yourself on Misplaced Pages:List of Wikipedians by fields of interest as someone with an interest in art. Would you be able to pop over there at some point and help us to expand the section please? Many thanks. -- Graham ☺ | Talk 11:53, 1 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Remember to warn

Remember to put {{test}} on the user pages of any user who creates a non-sensical page. -- user:zanimum

I thought I talked most of them, but occasionally one might get missed. I'll pay better attention in future. --fvw*† 01:27, 2004 Dec 2 (UTC)

Oh, good, glad to know you do so regularly. It seems too many admins that don't follow up on the user pages. -- user:zanimum

Your "tarantula"

The picture you put on the tarantula article is a very attractive picture, but it is not a picture of a tarantula. It's a picture of a jumping spiders -- creatures that I've been in love with for the last 50 years. Somebody else had already removed it before I saw it. Where did you get the picture? We may be able to use it on the "Jumping Spider" article somehow, especially if I can figure out the species. (Too bad the view of the upper surface of the abdomen is not clearer, but you've got a beautiful shot of the head. Jumping spiders are the only ones I know of that seem to be aware that somebody is looking at them, and they like to look back. They seem to be as curious about us as we are about them. P0M 08:41, 3 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Kiki

If you remember back a little bit, you were kind enough to test the idea of Kiki with nine kids. You said they were interested in her, as long as she were intelligent. Since then, Kiki has developed into a character that appears on ever few pages in the books, and occasionally interviews real-life scientists, politicians, artists, dancers, zookeepers, what ever relates to the book. These people will be shown in cartoon form, in their work environments. For example, I'm hoping to have "Kiki" interview a NASA scientist or astronaut, or some sort of astronomer, for the debut Solar System issue. Would you be able to run this new role for Kiki past the kids you talked to before, and see if this interests them? The character is in trouble of being eliminated by criticism from other users. -- user:zanimum

Point me at the discussion please? Pedant 18:52, 2004 Dec 6 (UTC)

Sure, it's at http://meta.wikimedia.org/Wikijunior_project_Kiki_character . Thanks! -- user:zanimum

AMA

What do you know about the AMA? Is it caput, or is it still actually functioning? -- user:zanimum

Zani, good question about the AMA -- based on the activity at their requests for assistance page (I forget the name exactly, but it's linked to from WP:AMA) I think it's crawling along at a snail's pace. It would appear that someone called Keith Tyler (I don't know him) is handling most of what few requests arrive. I imagine that it, like the harmonious editing club and dozens of other voluntary associations here, didn't have sufficient gravity to keep itself together. Perhaps it will revive one day. I think it was little used, though, for the basic reason that most people who need help with dispute resolution have already decided who they will trust to give them answers, and so they don't go looking for an "organization" to provide help. The few I ever saw go to the AMA mistakenly seemed to believe that they were acquiring a mediator (and one who would be favorable to them) -- most of them seemed to abandon AMA assistance once they discovered the "actual" dispute resolution procedure. Sorry for the long answer. Did you ask for any particular reason, by the way, or just curiosity? :-) Jwrosenzweig 21:25, 6 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Thanks JW, I was curious because you and I had run the inaugural (and possibly only ever) election for the AMAs. Do you think there should still be an election, being six months after the initial one? -- user:zanimum

Misplaced Pages mentioned on the tv program go_open.

Thanks for the email Zanimum. I watched it and wrote about the mention at Misplaced Pages:Press_coverage#December. — Jeandré, 2004-12-11t18:32z

Image:Fursuit autumn fox hotel.jpg

Hi hi, I noticed that Image:Fursuit autumn fox hotel.jpg is lacking a proper copyright tag - could you add one, please? Thanks. ^_^ On a related note, does the owner/creator of this suit have a website? I've been in love with the suit (so to speak ^_~) ever since I first saw it on http://www.ratemyfursuit.com (defunct, unfortunately), but wasn't able to find any information or further photos really. Thanks! ^^ -- Schneelocke (cheeks clone) ] 16:46, 13 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Hi Schneelocke! It's from http://www.rabbitinthemoon.us . It's a great fursuit. The creator's also got some relatively well-made kigurumi masks on the site. Theere is also a relatively interesting forum. -- user:zanimum

Wikijunior PR test

Heya, I've moved Wikijunior PR test to User:Zanimum/Wikijunior PR test. Please put personal stuff on subpages of your user page, the main namespace is just for encyclopaedic articles. --fvw* 18:08, 2004 Dec 13 (UTC)

Without looking at it, your page may have been appropriate in the Misplaced Pages namespace (for instance if it is policy or policy suggestion and discussion). Hyacinth 00:31, 15 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Edit summary

Hello. Please provide an edit summary. Thanks and happy edits. Hyacinth 00:31, 15 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Wikisource logo

Heya. I saw your logo for wikisource, very impresive.

It seems like the only real problem with it is the square edges required for the sea. I was wondering, have you considered playing around with a circular background for the sea? Depending on aspect ratios etc, I thought that might look okay. Another idea is to try to draw the sourceberg with an overhead view and use a circular ocean. There's a bit of liberty for creative freedom in that idea as well. CXI 14:55, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Deleting images (Cox's Bazar)

Please do not delete my thumbnails without asking, they are often special sharpened thumbnails, or palletted PNG's. ed g2s • talk 20:25, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Please don't bother picking your bones with me. I was only deleting images that others had listed for speedy deletion. It was in a list of thumbnails that a user had listed, all of which were useless, except for your apparently. If you can refer me to the name of the image that I deleted, I'd be more than happy to look in the logs to see who listed it for deletion. -- user:zanimum

If images are listed for deletion (and especially speedy deletion), it is your responsibility to check them out as an admin if you take it upon yourself to delete then as the process is irreversible. But now worries in this case, no harm done. ed g2s • talk 02:42, 20 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Unverified image

Thanks for uploading the image

• Image:Character comedian charles e. grapewin.gif

I notice it currently doesn't have an image copyright tag. Could you add one to let us know its copyright status? (You can use {{gfdl}} if you release it under the GFDL, or {{fairuse}} if you claim fair use, etc.) Thanks – Kbh3rd 08:05, 1 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Vfd: Simple questions that require simple answers

I am asking simple questions, and I dont get an answer from you. What is the voters population? In order for a Vfd poll to be a valid one, what is the minimum number of voters (as population percentage) that has to cast a vote on it? What is your decision method when you extract the decision from the poll? 2/3 majority? simple majority? other? Finnaly as long as you take a decision, how long this decision is valid and cannot be reversed? I am expecting simple answers from you, in order to stop proposing my own answers to those questions .Vfd policy is a total mess! How I calculate my results? I dont know yet. I have read majority rule, average rule, quadratic rule e.t.c. and I am trying to find out. Iasson 09:50, 9 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Look. We're just like any other democracy here. You hold a vote, basically just an election. If only 0.0001% of the population turns up, so be it. They vote, they decide who's the victor. We can't force anyone to vote. I think I heard there's almost 100,000 registered users on Misplaced Pages, but there's really only 1,000 or so users that have edited in the last month. VfD should be a simple procedure, based on a normal majority. xx users said delete, yy users said keep. If xx is greater than yy, delete the article, if yy is greater, delete. -- user:zanimum

Did You Know?: Jeopardy! in culture

Congrats on the "Jeopardy!" article making the "Did You Know?" section! I stumbled on that article the other day when I was surfing the new pages and meant to comment on it then. It's one of the best esoteric articles I've ever seen on this site. - Lucky 6.9 17:50, 13 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Thanks Lucky, I'm glad you enjoyed it. It's root section from the Jeopardy! article was just getting a little to cluttered, and when I started to clean it, it got long, so why not spend an hour more researching a weird pop culture craze? -- user:zanimum

Image tags and sources

Zanimum - an anon has tagged two of your images, Image:Event expo 67 poster 1990-552-1.jpg and Image:Event expo 67 united states pavilion.jpg, fair use because you wrote "deemed fair use." Could you please note your source for these images on their description pages? Thanks very much. ] 00:27, 19 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Likewise Image:EricPeterson.jpg. ] 01:07, 19 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Image:Tv jay leno guest ashley simpson.jpg

Hi, the referenced image has you listed as the uploader, and it's tagged fair use. NBC's license on that image is:

Copyright ? 2004 NBC, Inc. All rights reserved. Permission is hereby granted for use of the photo herein depicting the NBC program solely for editorial purposes in newspapers and periodicals to promote the NBC program only and for no other purpose.

...so, using it here is a little on the iffy side. If you have a good fair use justification handy, could you add one? If not, we do have a substitute fair use image for Ashlee Simpson so it's not the end of the world. Thanks. iMeowbot~Mw 18:08, 22 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Warning vandals

When reverting a page or template, especially "inthenews", make sure that you put a Template:*test* (without the astericks) on it. If it's something that affects the main page, I personally go straight for Template:*test3* or higher. -- user:zanimum

There wasn't much point, since I'd blocked the IP immediately after reverting. I think the rather prominent notice saying "IF YOU VANDALISE THIS TEMPLATE, YOU WILL BE ***BLOCKED*** IMMEDIATELY" at the top of Template:In the news is warning enough. Proteus (Talk) 17:51, 25 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Oh, great. I hadn't checked that out. Should still leave something on their talk pages, just in case they vandalise once their block is up, we know to treat them more seriously than others. -- user:zanimum

Johnny Carson image

Apologies for reverting your image changes to the Johnny Carson article without checking to see if the original image had been tagged. I uploaded it (before he died), and thought I had tagged it, but didn't. The only thing I was thinking was, "Why did this guy replace the image with one of arguably lower quality?" I didn't bother to check if I'd tagged the image. The original image is a screenshot of an image from MPTV.net as it appeared on IMDB.com. Looking at MPTV's web page, the terms for use are pretty restrictive, and there's no mention of fair use. Then again, I'm not sure where you could find a better picture of him. "Unique" images qualify as fair use, I think. Do you think it should remain in the article? Not necessarily at the top, but anywhere. --Chrysaor 21:58, 25 Jan 2005 (UTC)

I think we're fine keeping this picture. The only reason I took issue with it was that it was on the front page. Until anyone else goes out of their way to hunt down less that allowable pictures, we should try and keep it. To my knowledge, fair use covers promotional images, screen captures (thus uncontrolable by the creator), and news photos in extreme cases, as they are one-time moments of high-signifcance that simply can't be recreated. In the last circumstance, you have the slim chance of nulling commerical photography's copyrights. Since this photo was recreatable (we had 4 years to get our own picture of Johnny), I think we don't have a hope on this argument. -- user:zanimum

Stylized Sourceberg

It appears that the stylized "Sourceberg" logo at Wikisource is at least partially your design. The matter has progressed to the point where it looks like we will be having a final vote between that and the "Stack of books". Could you please indicate on your Wikisource user page that you are in part the designer of that proposed logo, and that you are willing to transfer all your rights if any under copyright and trademark law to the Wikimedia Foundation if it is finally chosen. Eclecticology 21:07, 2005 Feb 21 (UTC)

I note that you have not yet responded to the above request. Although the original Sourceberg design was produced before you became involved your variation is sufficiently different to possibly carry additional rights. As long as the question of these rights remains unresolved your version cannot be accepted as the Wikisource logo. If you do not respond within a reasonable time this will be interpreted as an indication that you do not intend to transfer those rights, and that you have withdrawn your proposals. Eclecticology 20:04, 2005 Mar 1 (UTC)

DYK

On ], Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Example, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Error: Invalid time.&end=Error: Invalid time.&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Example Example), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Alvin and the Chipmunks

Hey...do you happen to know the original release dates for the records in the discography? The ones providd (I'm asuming they're from Amazon.com are for CD rereleases of old albums (for exampl, The Chipmunks Sing the Beatles is obviously a reissue of a 1960s release). I'm going to move the discography to the talk page for right now, so that we can find the correct release dates (years are fine). Just give me a minute to finish up a couple of other edits, and I will start looking up the info--SOMEbody on the internet has to have a complete Chipmunks discography. --b. Touch 23:22, 8 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Yes, the dates are from Amazon. You never know, the Beatles release could actually have been new. Goodluck trying to find the content, the Chipmunk fanbase is more into fanfics and fan art than info. -- user:zanimum

I did find a few helpful links. I sourced info from , , and . No need to wikilink; I doubt anyone's going to write an article for each of these albums. --b. Touch 00:24, 9 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Wow, you're good. I'm impressed. I do have to agree that we can leave the wikilink off, a little unnecessary with so many albums. Thanks B Touch! -- user:zanimum

Please stop reverts ... Let's talk

I am doing stub cleaning and consolidation that is needed to reduce the incidence of tiny articles. For instance, did you know that the Luis Rodriguez article was linked to by a music producer, two boxers and a singer? Courtland 17:19, 2005 Mar 13 (UTC)

Let's talk about this .. I think we are trying to do the same thing and I'm desirous of keeping all information you've spent a lot of time putting in. Courtland 17:25, 2005 Mar 13 (UTC)

Robin Watson

This article you seem to have created (way back when) is listed on VFD, and current consensus is that it's a load of complete nonsense ;) Thought it might be a good idea to ask if you've any more info about the subject, or if current consensus is correct? sjorford →•← 22:45, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)

User talk:64.72.134.94

This user has just made a minor-vandalism edit on Confucius. Given your message on his Talk page, I thought that you'd want to know. Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 13:45, 23 Mar 2005 (UTC)

DYK

On ], Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Example, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Error: Invalid time.&end=Error: Invalid time.&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Example Example), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Misplaced Pages:Recent additions

While I appreciate your efforts in updating this page, I'd like to ask you to to take the items you add from the bottom of The archive section at Template talk:Did you know to avoid a number of items being skipped (which your edit did). Happy editing! 131.211.210.16 11:15, 29 Mar 2005 (UTC)

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Image source

Image:Brooker_Behnen_Ordaz.jpg was obtained from Student Association of Missouri archives. This image is not copyrighted is fair use. Thanks! -- BCV

Chronographos pics

The Kakisis pic was sent to me by Kakisis himself for the Misplaced Pages entry. The stadium pic is a frame I captured off of greek public TV last summer. - user:Chronographos

Great, I've added the appropriate tags to the images. Image:OlympiaStad1.gif now has screencapture , and Image:SK1.gif has permission. In the future, try and find an appropriate tag from Misplaced Pages:Image copyright tags. It's a daunting list to pick through, but any of these folks (including me) will be more than happy to help. -- user:zanimum

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