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{{LocateMe}}

So I've got the bot set up to run through the categories listed. It fetches the list of articles from each category, then reviews each page looking for "geohack.php".

What I've done with other projects is to use this page for updates, comments, etc. The edit summary the bot uses points to this page, so it's a central location.

The bot keeps track of the number of articles in each category, the number that already have "geohack.php", and the number it has tagged. That record will be located at: User:SatyrBot/Project list.

You mentioned two searches and/or lists. If you'd like, I can have the bot run through those lists one run. I've found, though, that the category system is the most complete and relatively thorough.

As for timing, I usually set the bot to run at a particular time - usuall midnight my time (Eastern US), but we can set it up for whatever time works best for you. Having it run at a set time lessens the server load a little and gives us a day between each run to address any concerns that crop up.

Let me know if you have any questions or concerns with any of this. -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 15:42, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Thank you. The logs look useful, but do they include actual page counts ("tagged 425 out of 837 pages checked")?. I'm in the UK, so it's about 5pm here, as I type. Ready when you are! Andy Mabbett 15:51, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I'll make sure that's there. -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 16:23, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Comment

Thank you. Consensus is to place the tag on the article; not its talk page. Andy Mabbett 15:30, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Sounds good. At the top of the page? -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 15:46, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Yup, just like "cleanup". Andy Mabbett 15:52, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Better idea! Please use {{LocateMeBot}} (modified as you see fit). Thank you. Andy Mabbett 16:01, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

I modified {{LocateMe}} to include the line about SatyrBot if the "satyrbot=yes" parameter is there. No need to have two separate templates :) -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 16:24, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

I specifically want to include "This apparently location related article" and "seems to lack coordinates", in case of false positives. Andy Mabbett 16:30, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Gotcha. We'll use the LocateMeBot tag, then. -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 18:32, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Just to confirm, you should be looking for "geohack.php" in the HTML, not the wikicode. Andy Mabbett 16:30, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Correct. -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 18:32, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

I don't think consensus is to place "expand" type messages in article space, but instead in talk space - cf. Misplaced Pages:Template messages. I'm very much dismayed that you have - to my mind - spammed 500 or so articles with the locateme template. Additions to the talk page alert those who are watching the article. Additions to the article also alert those watching, but mainly (again IMO) detract from the article by discussing what to the vast majority of readers must surely be of little or no consequence. I would urge you to think again about what you're doing. --Tagishsimon (talk)

Timing

So I'll set it to run at midnight my time, which I believe is 5am your time. It can take 2 to 3 hours to run, so by the time you finish your morning coffee, you can check on how it's done :) -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 16:25, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

OK, Would it be worth running it on a single category of, say 100 articles, now? Andy Mabbett 16:30, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Sure - the very first category has ~160 articles, less than a hundred of them need tags. I'll run it on that one in just a few minutes. -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 18:34, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Can't count. First cat has ~95 articles - perfect. Will be running in just a minute. -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 18:48, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Lookin' good! On a quick scan, I found two false positive - an article about several places around the word, categorised because one of them is in London; and an article about a 160km walkway around London. Andy Mabbett 22:38, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Oh, can you make it add the month + year: {{LocateMeBot|April 2007}} (or whenever), please? Andy Mabbett 23:44, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Doh! Yes - I'll do that.

Just to clarify, have you reviewed the separate categories to make sure they're at least 80% accurate? More, if possible? -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 00:13, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Yes, to the best of my judgement - I haven't sat here with my calculator ;-). BTW, two ave been renamed since I compiled the list, and are now red-links. Andy Mabbett 01:17, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Kewl :) -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 01:49, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

West End theatre

Don't know if your bot meant to do this, but this is a rather amorphous area of London - theatreland - equivalent to Broadway. They would be very imprecise coordinates, as it covers three boroughs. User:Kbthompson

If London has geo coordinates, then so can one of its sub-divisions. Use the centre point, and low granularity (say three decimal places, or equivalent). Andy Mabbett 23:44, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

I noted ...

1. West End theatre, a rather amorphous area spanning three London boroughs, would you like an approximate coordinate for London?
2. You also seem to be applying the bot to Cat:Former theatres in London. While some locations, like the Rose have been identified, many have not; or the street layout has changed; or they drove a railway through it in the 19th century ... you get the idea. Some of this architectural scenery has been taken back to the props room.

Bots, eh, can't live with 'em, can't live without them. I'm sure they'll be more before the night is through ... Kbthompson 23:49, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

From the former article; "London's main theatre district is located in the heart of the West End of the city centre, and is traditionally defined by The Strand to the south, Oxford Street to the north, Regent Street to the west, and Kingsway to the east". Why not take the centre of that? Say, Leicester Square? We're not so much looking for a precise location as where you'd stick the relevant pin in a map... Andy Mabbett 01:20, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Not run

I take it we didn't run, last night? Was there a problem? Andy Mabbett 08:44, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Not sure - I had it set to run, but it doesn't seem to have. I've just started it. -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 14:32, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Locate me templates

I have changed these to use "date=" syntax which is the way cleanup tempaltes are going. Any labelled with the old syntax will be picked up and changed by SB, so no worries. Rich Farmbrough, 10:50 3 April 2007 (GMT).

Thanks! I've updated the bot's script. -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 14:33, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

The Proms

By what criterion did your bot decide that this article about a world-famous concert series was "location related"? Just asking. Philip Trueman 10:33, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

It's in Category:Visitor attractions in London. Given that the page says that the Proms are "held annually in Central London", that would seem to be a good call, too. Andy Mabbett 16:30, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Museum Mile, London

hit 3 times Jheald 16:20, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

• Fixed (but not may need adjustnig) Andy Mabbett 16:38, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Hmm - wonder why it didn't recognize the tag was already there? I'll check on this before tonight's run. -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 16:58, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

There seem to be 43 instances of this, so I've stopped the bot. I'll remove the categories that have been done, fix the duplicates, and fix the error. Then the bot can run on the remaining categories tonight. -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 17:03, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Letter V

The letter V was tagged, bizarrely. There's no relevant category involved. Andy Mabbett 16:38, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Another wierdness I'll check before tonight. -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 16:58, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

LocateMeBot

Any possibility that a) you can prevent your bot from adding the same notice twice to articles and b) that you consider putting the "location needed" spam box on the talk page and not on the article page. There are IMO few reasons for spoiling an article with your favourite deficiency box. --Tagishsimon (talk)

You former point is addressed above. It's not a "spam" box (please AGF), and it's in the same place as other "cleanup" templates. Andy Mabbett 17:35, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Looks more like an expansion template than a cleanup - "This apparently location-related article appears to lack geographic coordinates- You can help by adding them". Misplaced Pages:Template messages suggests these should be on the talk page. --Tagishsimon (talk)

Misplaced Pages:Template messages/Cleanup#Expand and add suggests the opposite (and I'm now adding this one). Andy Mabbett 20:20, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Bah. Thanks for at least toning the template down a bit (assuming you have in fact done that). "This template was added by SatyrBot." seems gratuitous at best, given the existence of history. --Tagishsimon (talk)

Parks around London etc

Your bot is adding the LocateMe template to all articles associated with parks, it seems. However a lot of these articles don't need the coordinates because they cannot be located! I am meaning, they talk about many parks and are more generalised articles, not quite lists but nearly. Also, if coordinates were added it would be sloppy as it would mean that they would have to be added for every park and square in the article. Simply south 17:14, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Examples, please. Your latter point is not correct - an article about "Parks in Birmingham", for instance, should carry the same coordinates, at the same low resolution, as the article about Birmingham. Andy Mabbett 17:33, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Sorry i suppose i wasn't clear. Examples include Parks and open spaces in London, Squares in London, Richmond upon Thames parks and open spaces, Sites of Importance for Nature Conservation etc. Look at the contributions. Simply south 17:38, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

They should use the same coordinates as London, ditto, Richmond upon Thames and London again. Also, to address one of your earlier points, here is an argument that adding all the coordinates on one article would be a good thing; since it would allow a user to add them all, in one go, as waypoints to a GPS device, or Google Maps/ Earth, or whatever - but this isn't the place for that discussion (however, see Ridge Route for an example). Andy Mabbett 17:44, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Next batch

Ready at User_talk:Pigsonthewing/places#Pathfinder2 Andy Mabbett 20:13, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

I've fixed both errors that happened. I also condensed the template a little to help with the above users' concerns. We should be good to go for tonight. -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 21:00, 3 April 2007 (UTC)