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Requested move to List of banks in Macau

Macau has been selected as the name for that place for quite along time now after extensive discussions, so the title of this article is an adnormality.--Huaiwei 23:10, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Keep. The source spells Macao. - Privacy 05:59, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

There are no sources in the said article.--Huaiwei 06:37, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Support move. "Macau" is how the region is called officially, internationally and in Misplaced Pages and we should be consistent. If there is an objection to the name Macau in favor of Macao, it should be brought up in the main article. --Kimon 23:26, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

• Object move. Official full name "Macao Special Administrative Region of the People's Republic of China" is almost always spelt as "Macao". The official English name of the AMCM is spelt as "Macao" too. Passer-by (talk) 13:21, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment. The Macanese Govenment considers both Macau and Macao as official spellings acceptable in English publications. The English media all around the world and contemporary common usage overwelmingly uses Macau, and this is the primary reason why it is used in wikipedia As per Kimon, make a rename request in Macau if you must, and not by enforcing your views via the creation of articles with your preferred spelling, or by editing existing articles in violation of current concensus.--Huaiwei 15:50, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
    • Prove overwhelming. If both are used, why should one of them be oppressed? Passer-by (talk) 15:53, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
      • Do a google search, and open up your local English newspaper right now. This has been discussed at length before. People arent going to entertaining your constant rehashing of the same old arguments at every opportunity.--Huaiwei 16:01, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
        • That entirely depends on which newspapers and what kind of websites are you relying on. Passer-by (talk) 16:03, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
          • You are free to open up any newspaper. There is only one google that I have heard of, unless you just established a new one moments before.--Huaiwei 16:07, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
            • See what you'll get by limiting your googling to embassy and diplomatic mission websites, websites of government such as the UK and Canadian governments, and websites of international organizations such as the UN. (So sorry that you're thinking about several googles.) Passer-by (talk) 16:28, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
              • Perhaps you should be doing the statistics and publishing it here for us. Anyway, isnt this already mentioned before by someone?--Huaiwei 17:00, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
• Move WP editors have been making consistency decisions to spell it with a u. SchmuckyTheCat 14:41, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Misplaced Pages decisions do not override proper noun spellings. Passer-by (talk) 15:51, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
    • Comment. Provide evidence on what constitutes "proper" spelling in this regard.--Huaiwei 15:53, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
      • Spellings of proper nouns. Passer-by (talk) 15:54, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
        • Kindly point out relevant text in relation to this issue.--Huaiwei 15:59, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
          • Oh dear. Sounds like you don't understand what proper nouns (aka proper names) are. Passer-by (talk) 16:01, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
            • So sorry about that dear.--Huaiwei 16:07, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
• Comment - There appears to be some confusion as to how to spell the name:
  • Macao
    • Macao SAR Government Portal
    • Google search on China's US embassy (906 hits)
  • Macau
    • CIA World Factbook
    • Google search on China's US embassy (69 hits)
    • Macau Economic Information Service
    • Macau Government Tourist Office
    • Macau City Guide
• --Kimon 16:06, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Indeed. It has been pointed out that the only government which has been relatively consistent in using the "Macao" spelling is the Beijing government. Even the Macanese government itself uses both. The majority of major buildings/entities/events in Macau use that spelling, including the Macau International Airport. All major English media around the world, including the BBC, CNN, the South China Morning Post, and even the local main English paper, the Macau Post Daily uses the Macau spelling.--Huaiwei 16:13, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
    • How the word Macau alone is spelt is irrelevant. We are talking about the spellings as used in proper nouns, such as "Macao Special Administrative Region of the People's Republic of China", and "Monetary Authority of Macao". The title of this list should be as consistent as possible with its content. Alternative titles are already catered by redirects. Passer-by (talk) 16:28, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
      • How about "Macau Economic Information Service", "Macau Government Tourist Office" and "Macau Special Administrative Region"? --Kimon 16:54, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

yes, this inconsistency is why we've developed a fairly standing consensus on WP to use the u spelling UNLESS the actual title of the article is the true and only proper name of the subject (Macao Daily News). The title of this article is not a proper name in itself, so we should stick to the u spelling convention. SchmuckyTheCat 16:56, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

• • • • • The word "Macau" itself is a proper noun, so just where is your consistency there?--Huaiwei 17:00, 4 April 2007 (UTC)