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	::::Note that ] still hasn't acquired a nationality. Readers still have to 'fish around' the article, or just make assumptions to find out where he came from. While the assumption that all Nazi propaganda films etc were German might be viable, the same assumption about people simply isn't. ] (]) 06:15, 20 September 2023 (UTC) … I've rephrased Neumann to lead with his nationality. My phrasing might not be perfect, but the lead should obviously state that he was German. ] (]) 06:25, 20 September 2023 (UTC)		::::Note that ] still hasn't acquired a nationality. Readers still have to 'fish around' the article, or just make assumptions to find out where he came from. While the assumption that all Nazi propaganda films etc were German might be viable, the same assumption about people simply isn't. ] (]) 06:15, 20 September 2023 (UTC) … I've rephrased Neumann to lead with his nationality. My phrasing might not be perfect, but the lead should obviously state that he was German. ] (]) 06:25, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
	:From what I see on this Talk Page and when reviewing edits to the Nazi Germany page, there was never contention on this topic to begin with. As a "more experienced editor," my suggestion on proceeding is to ]. Try out the solution you suggested back in September in 5 or 6 places on this article where you believe it aids in clarity to the article as a whole, therefore improving the article. I '''caution''' you, however, against prescriptively changing every usage to fit into a stylistic rule you wish existed. But ultimately, the RfC in question should not have been created in the first place. Allow the whole process: make edits, allow people to potentially revert your changes, engage in a dialogue about the reversions on the Talk Page, and then if consensus can't be reached on specific use cases, ''that's'' when we create an RfC. Good luck editing! And get yourself a username! ;) ] (]) 19:59, 28 November 2023 (UTC)		:From what I see on this Talk Page and when reviewing edits to the Nazi Germany page, there was never contention on this topic to begin with. As a "more experienced editor," my suggestion on proceeding is to ]. Try out the solution you suggested back in September in 5 or 6 places on this article where you believe it aids in clarity to the article as a whole, therefore improving the article. I '''caution''' you, however, against prescriptively changing every usage to fit into a stylistic rule you wish existed. But ultimately, the RfC in question should not have been created in the first place. Allow the whole process: make edits, allow people to potentially revert your changes, engage in a dialogue about the reversions on the Talk Page, and then if consensus can't be reached on specific use cases, ''that's'' when we create an RfC. Good luck editing! And get yourself a username! ;) ] (]) 19:59, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

	== Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 9 November 2023 ==

	{{edit extended-protected\|Nazi Germany\|answered=yes}}
	Please shorten this short description that exceeded more than 40 characters:

	{{tlx\|Short description\|German state from 1933 to 1945}}

	] (]) 04:18, 9 November 2023 (UTC)

	:I modified your suggestion a little but brought it under 40. ] (]) 04:59, 9 November 2023 (UTC)

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Next step following the RfC proposed before...

I am the person who made the proposal/RfC on 21 July. There have been plenty of replies and discussion but no action taken yet as it has buried. As I stated following these discussions, I sense that there is definitely a consensus to (at the very least) making some change to the status quo. The main criticism was that the RfC was 'vague', so I'd like to get the issue settled as many here have understood or sympathised with the points I made about the usage of 'Nazi' and 'German' terms here.

Perhaps a more experienced user here can take the reins regarding this proposal, and what the best course of action is.

@SMcCandlish @Shadowwarrior8 @DanielRigal @Binksternet @Diannaa @Obenritter @Marcelus @Senorangel @The Gnome @Pincrete @Mzajac @Penguino35 @Adam Cuerden @PadFoot2008 @InvadingInvader @Dan Carkner @Buidhe @Adamstom.97 @Cukrakalnis @86.187.166.250 @BogLogs @2603:7000:CF0:7280:DCC2:BBA4:C746:B4FC @CJDOS @Vontheri @Millscrepe @Hohum @Nillurcheier --148.252.129.158 (talk) 00:25, 20 September 2023 (UTC)

Since you are the person who opened the RFC, it's inappropriate for you to close it. You need to go to Misplaced Pages:Closure requests to ask for an uninvolved person to impartially assess the consensus and close the RFC. Make sure your request is neutrally worded; don't make a suggestion as to what the outcome should be. — Diannaa (talk) 00:31, 20 September 2023 (UTC)

Yep. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 00:35, 20 September 2023 (UTC)

Done. --148.252.129.158 (talk) 00:38, 20 September 2023 (UTC)

Note that Erich Neumann still hasn't acquired a nationality. Readers still have to 'fish around' the article, or just make assumptions to find out where he came from. While the assumption that all Nazi propaganda films etc were German might be viable, the same assumption about people simply isn't. Pincrete (talk) 06:15, 20 September 2023 (UTC) … I've rephrased Neumann to lead with his nationality. My phrasing might not be perfect, but the lead should obviously state that he was German. Pincrete (talk) 06:25, 20 September 2023 (UTC)

From what I see on this Talk Page and when reviewing edits to the Nazi Germany page, there was never contention on this topic to begin with. As a "more experienced editor," my suggestion on proceeding is to BE BOLD. Try out the solution you suggested back in September in 5 or 6 places on this article where you believe it aids in clarity to the article as a whole, therefore improving the article. I caution you, however, against prescriptively changing every usage to fit into a stylistic rule you wish existed. But ultimately, the RfC in question should not have been created in the first place. Allow the whole process: make edits, allow people to potentially revert your changes, engage in a dialogue about the reversions on the Talk Page, and then if consensus can't be reached on specific use cases, that's when we create an RfC. Good luck editing! And get yourself a username! ;) Penguino35 (talk) 19:59, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

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I think the flag of East Germany in the "Succeeded by" section should be changed. East Germany used the same flag as West Germany before 1959 (see Flag of East Germany#History). Janomoogo (talk) 14:54, 16 November 2023 (UTC)

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It would be appropriate to add the exact date of existence in the introduction, as in the article on the Weimar Republic, as follows: ...was the German state between March 23, 1933 and June 5, 1945, when Adolf Hitler and the Nazi Party controlled the country, transforming it into a totalitarian dictatorship. 2001:871:B:2DDD:9090:E14F:95C1:D7BF (talk) 17:47, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

What not the "Seizure of Power" (30 January 1933) when Hitler became chancellor, or the Reichstag Fire Decree (28 February), which presaged much of the Enabling Act, for the start date? I would favor the former, earlier date. Beyond My Ken (talk) 17:58, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 05:03, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

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The Motto of Nazi Germany was "Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Führer", which means "One People, One Realm, One Leader." Shouldn't Country Infoboxes include Official Mottos? Ironzombie39 (talk) 21:45, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

It was never an official motto. It was more a rallying cry or slogan. — Diannaa (talk) 22:23, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

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I believe the map of Germany-controlled territories at the end of 1942 is not good. Albania, Yugoslavia and Greece were occupied at the time by the Wehrmacht and that is not reflected in the map. 108.4.229.56 (talk) 16:07, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

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