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the guy is not notable and does not even have a college degree. --alidoostzadeh 03:33, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Never mind , such revisionists should be exposed. --alidoostzadeh 20:59, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

I agree. I've never heard of him. Has anyone got a bibliography for this guy and his background?--الأهواز | Hamid | Ahwaz 10:38, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

You've never heard of him? You sure about that??? Bani-Torofs and the separatist professor at Shaw's ideas about Arabs being in Iran before Aryans comes from this person. He is a well-known reactionary political figure in Iran, and the sources show notability. His ideas are ridiculous, but remember that Khomeini and Ahmadinejad and their ilk share and believe these Arabist revisionist views, e.g. that false history should be promoted so that Iran should become an Arab country in the name of "Islamic unity". Khorshid 17:48, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Google search bring about 1 non-wikipedia/wikipedia fork/blog sites that refer to him. He doesn't seem notable in English sources, atleast with the current spelling of the article's title --Rayis 18:08, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

All I can see is just one mention of Pourpirar, which Bani Torouf said in his introduction that he had read after the speech you have linked to. As for the claim that Professor Ali al-Taie is a separatist, he states quite clearly that "there will never be, nor should there be, disintegration or separatism in Iran. Rather, all Iranian people, regardless of their ethnic background, should live under a pluralistic, tolerant, and federal society." I see no reference to Pourpirar in anything Dr al-Taie has written or said. This is just your way of slandering people. Incidentally, Bani Torouf has been arrested twice since Ahmadinejad came to power. I read his columns on the Elaph website. How can you say he is an Ahmadinejad ally? Another act of slander. Pourpirar appears to be a former communist now trying to find favour with the regime. He doesn't seem to be important or notable.--الأهواز | Hamid | Ahwaz 18:13, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

See WP:CIVIL. Don't accuse me of "slandering" anyone. Remember your block history, so step lightly. Khorshid 18:32, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

You can't make baseless accusations against living people. It is a Misplaced Pages rule. See WP:LIVING.--الأهواز | Hamid | Ahwaz 20:27, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Incidentally, have you read any of his works? Can you name any of his works?--الأهواز | Hamid | Ahwaz 18:15, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

The above questions are irrelevant. We rely on secondary sources here on Misplaced Pages, not first-person experience. See WP:OR. And Bani-Torof clearly mentions Pourpirar and his books (read the article, do your own work) as the basis for his lame revisionist theories. Khorshid 18:32, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

I'm just asking. Have you read his books? Do you know of any book he has written? You have written most of the article, so you obviously know a lot about him. Wouldn't it be a good idea to list his works?--الأهواز | Hamid | Ahwaz 20:27, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

I have just found the publishing company that Pourpirar is involved in. Far from being anti-Iranian, this publishing company publishes books on Ancient Persian and Ancient Persian art . I am beginning to doubt the way in which Pourpirar is portrayed in your biography, which relies heavily on one or two sources, largely Farsi blogs, and a quotation that could have been taken out of context and certainly doesn't confirm your contention that he is some kind of Nazi. But I really don't know anything about the man and haven't heard about him until you wrote an article--الأهواز | Hamid | Ahwaz 18:22, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

More nonsense. Pourpirar is Iranian and lives in Iran, so naturally his books are going to be published in Iran by state-sponsored publishers! Again, stop wasting my time. Khorshid 18:32, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Of course, we know that. But the publishing company he appears to be involved in publishes books on pre-Islamic Persian history. One books description says: "The art of Ancient Iran has a place of its own in the cultural heritage of the East. For centuries it has been admired for its lyrical quality and finesse combined with classically lucid, pure style. The finest specimens of Persian art have long been regarded as true standards of beauty and impeccable artistic taste." So, I'm not so sure he is anti-Iranian.--الأهواز | Hamid | Ahwaz 20:27, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

BTW, if you guys really don't like this page, delete it. I have no stake in this matter either way. Khorshid 18:40, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

He is a blogger, an opportunist and propaganda maker with no proper education. Naturally his writings are not cited by scholars and are only reflected in weblogs and webpages related to political circles that benefit from propagandas. He is indeed following Sadeq Khalkhali, another pseudo-scholar . Sina Kardar 18:50, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Certainly, his importance is exagerrated by this article.--الأهواز | Hamid | Ahwaz 20:27, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Keep the article actually.. he has been quoted by some nuts of late in separatist sites. Also hamid does not understand that publishing books is different than writing books. We are talking about the bookjs he actually writes and not the one his publishing house (due to need of money) publishes. Hamid/Ahwaz of course you know about the man and he is a major pan-rabist. Since Bani-Torof mentions him and so do some other separatists, it is good to have an article on him since Persian google gets a lot of hits. --alidoostzadeh 20:49, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

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