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| :::::Oh well, I've had another look and just adjusted the text accordingly. If you still want to see that paragraph on page 35, I guess I could just copy it here (.. or would that trigger another indef by ]?) What I'd really like to show you, however, is what's on page 123 of the book, about Plath's boyfriend Gordon Lameyer and subsequent events, which is far more interesting. You might want to mention it in her article. Again it's only a short paragraph, so I could copy it here or send it to you via email. Regards. ] (]) 18:17, 10 January 2024 (UTC) | :::::Oh well, I've had another look and just adjusted the text accordingly. If you still want to see that paragraph on page 35, I guess I could just copy it here (.. or would that trigger another indef by ]?) What I'd really like to show you, however, is what's on page 123 of the book, about Plath's boyfriend Gordon Lameyer and subsequent events, which is far more interesting. You might want to mention it in her article. Again it's only a short paragraph, so I could copy it here or send it to you via email. Regards. ] (]) 18:17, 10 January 2024 (UTC) | ||
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Sylvia Plath
Happy New Year, and pleased to see you're still editing. It seems an age since Sissinghurst Castle Garden. I'm wondering if you can help me on Sylvia Plath. I'm doing some work on a Copyvio investigation, and I've a query regarding the "College years and depression" section, specially the bit below:
- "She was furious at not being at a meeting the editor had arranged with Welsh poet Dylan Thomas — a writer whom she loved, said one of her boyfriends, "more than life itself". She hung around the White Horse Tavern and the Chelsea Hotel for two days, hoping to meet Thomas, but he was already on his way home. A few weeks later, she slashed her legs to see if she had enough "courage" to kill herself."
Do you happen to have access to the Thomas source, so that we could check whether it is close paraphrasing? I could just re-write it, but I'm reluctant to meddle with a GA, and I know you were a major contributor. And just to be clear, I'm not for one moment suggesting your own editing may be CV, this addition was made in 2012 by a different editor. Anyways, if you can help, I'd be most grateful. Best regards. KJP1 (talk) 09:59, 10 January 2024 (UTC) KJP1 (talk) 09:59, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
- Hi, I'll look into it. I don't have the books but I can root about online. The text has been there in the article a long time. The GA was slapped on as a "drive by" (as it were). The nominator did very little (if any) editing to the article before nominating and succeeding in GA, if I remember rightly. Thanks for your work. 10:21, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) If I ever find out who this different editor was, 12 years ago, I'll certainly ask them to check... haha If you don't have a copy of Thomas (2008) Anna, I'd be happy to send you a copy of page 35! Regards and Happy New Year also. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:26, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
Hi Martin, happy new year. Yes, please do send me p35. My eyes are not great so coding and editing is hard these days. I hope all is well. (I'm staying well out of any WP politics that might be floating around.) All best wishes. Anna (talk) 10:29, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Anna. Hope you are well. Yes, likewise, many "political" pages no longer have a place in my watchlist. And often less "floating around", more "torpedoing"! I will try and send you an image of p.35, via your "email this user", if that suits? Many thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:38, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
Many thanks, Martin. Fatal Neglect is not on preview in Google Books. Anna (talk) 10:39, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
- It's funny - I don't even remember how to navigate so much of WP anymore. So many links native to my fingers have gone now. A strange feeling after spending so much time here, back in the day. This is what getting old feeling like. Lol. Anna (talk) 10:50, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
- No worries. I should, of course, urge everyone to buy a copy, so that David N. Thomas gets as many royalties as possible. A while back I took the liberty of contacting him to ask about the exact details of Dylan's death and who was the last person to see him alive. He very politely explained that he had long ago archived all his research materials and passed them on for safe keeping (to the University of Wales Library, I think). Ah yes... I thought I had forgotten most of my edits from the early days.... but then someone had the brilliant idea of dredging them all up again for re-examination. Oh dear. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:54, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
- Martinevans123 - Martin, stop teasing me. If you've got the source, there's no need to send it to Anna, you can check and amend if necessary! KJP1 (talk) 11:01, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
- It's always good to get a second opinion, or a third, or... Martinevans123 (talk) 11:06, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
- Oh well, I've had another look and just adjusted the text accordingly. If you still want to see that paragraph on page 35, I guess I could just copy it here (.. or would that trigger another indef by the powers that be?) What I'd really like to show you, however, is what's on page 123 of the book, about Plath's boyfriend Gordon Lameyer and subsequent events, which is far more interesting. You might want to mention it in her article. Again it's only a short paragraph, so I could copy it here or send it to you via email. Regards. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:17, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
- Many thanks for your email, Anna. As suggested, I will raise a new topic at Talk:Sylvia Plath. Regards. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:20, 11 January 2024 (UTC)
- Oh well, I've had another look and just adjusted the text accordingly. If you still want to see that paragraph on page 35, I guess I could just copy it here (.. or would that trigger another indef by the powers that be?) What I'd really like to show you, however, is what's on page 123 of the book, about Plath's boyfriend Gordon Lameyer and subsequent events, which is far more interesting. You might want to mention it in her article. Again it's only a short paragraph, so I could copy it here or send it to you via email. Regards. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:17, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
- It's always good to get a second opinion, or a third, or... Martinevans123 (talk) 11:06, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
- Martinevans123 - Martin, stop teasing me. If you've got the source, there's no need to send it to Anna, you can check and amend if necessary! KJP1 (talk) 11:01, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
- No worries. I should, of course, urge everyone to buy a copy, so that David N. Thomas gets as many royalties as possible. A while back I took the liberty of contacting him to ask about the exact details of Dylan's death and who was the last person to see him alive. He very politely explained that he had long ago archived all his research materials and passed them on for safe keeping (to the University of Wales Library, I think). Ah yes... I thought I had forgotten most of my edits from the early days.... but then someone had the brilliant idea of dredging them all up again for re-examination. Oh dear. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:54, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
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- Thomas 2008, p. 35. sfn error: no target: CITEREFThomas2008 (help)