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Agnostic Atheism – The Religious Spirituality or as some might describe a philosophical belief in which you are required to have faith in yourself as well as the world around you was founded by Mr.James Pope. England around 2007. This encompasses the belief of two possibilities that the Universe is what all religions refer to as God, As the Universe did create this planet and all the planets, the Seas and life. The Universe is nature essentially, All of nature ever and will ever be . This belief system is founded on the idea the word god originally was used to describe nature itself and aspects of it such as Fire, Water, Earth, Air, Light, Darkness, Life and Death. It is a held belief that the originally meaning of religion was to look after nature as we need it for our survival and we are only alive because of it, we are part of nature. However the possibility does remain that existence may not be as it seems, it could be a simulation and therefore technically our creator would be whoever pushed the start button for the simulation. That would be Atheist Creationism. Although Mr. James Pope did not come up with the term Atheist or Agnostic, neither was he the first to try to combine the two. He is however the sole creator and founder of the Religious Spirituality named Agnostic Atheism and resides in England Britain.


'''Agnostic atheism''' or '''atheistic agnosticism''' is a ] position that encompasses both ] and ]. Agnostic atheists are atheistic because they do not hold a ] in the existence of any deity and are agnostic because they claim that the existence of a divine entity or entities is either unknowable in principle or currently unknown in fact. '''Agnostic atheism''' or '''atheistic agnosticism''' is a ] position that encompasses both ] and ]. Agnostic atheists are atheistic because they do not hold a ] in the existence of any deity and are agnostic because they claim that the existence of a divine entity or entities is either unknowable in principle or currently unknown in fact.

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Agnostic Atheism – The Religious Spirituality or as some might describe a philosophical belief in which you are required to have faith in yourself as well as the world around you was founded by Mr.James Pope. England around 2007. This encompasses the belief of two possibilities that the Universe is what all religions refer to as God, As the Universe did create this planet and all the planets, the Seas and life. The Universe is nature essentially, All of nature ever and will ever be . This belief system is founded on the idea the word god originally was used to describe nature itself and aspects of it such as Fire, Water, Earth, Air, Light, Darkness, Life and Death. It is a held belief that the originally meaning of religion was to look after nature as we need it for our survival and we are only alive because of it, we are part of nature. However the possibility does remain that existence may not be as it seems, it could be a simulation and therefore technically our creator would be whoever pushed the start button for the simulation. That would be Atheist Creationism. Although Mr. James Pope did not come up with the term Atheist or Agnostic, neither was he the first to try to combine the two. He is however the sole creator and founder of the Religious Spirituality named Agnostic Atheism and resides in England Britain.

Agnostic atheism or atheistic agnosticism is a philosophical position that encompasses both atheism and agnosticism. Agnostic atheists are atheistic because they do not hold a belief in the existence of any deity and are agnostic because they claim that the existence of a divine entity or entities is either unknowable in principle or currently unknown in fact.

The agnostic atheist may be contrasted with the agnostic theist, who believes that one or more deities exist but claims that the existence or nonexistence of such is unknown or cannot be known.

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One of the earliest definitions of agnostic atheism is that of theologian and philosopher Robert Flint, in his Croall Lecture of 1887–1888 (published in 1903 under the title Agnosticism).

The atheist may however be, and not unfrequently is, an agnostic. There is an agnostic atheism or atheistic agnosticism, and the combination of atheism with agnosticism which may be so named is not an uncommon one.

If a man has failed to find any good reason for believing that there is a God, it is perfectly natural and rational that he should not believe that there is a God; and if so, he is an atheist... if he goes farther, and, after an investigation into the nature and reach of human knowledge, ending in the conclusion that the existence of God is incapable of proof, cease to believe in it on the ground that he cannot know it to be true, he is an agnostic and also an atheist – an agnostic-atheist – an atheist because an agnostic... while, then, it is erroneous to identify agnosticism and atheism, it is equally erroneous so to separate them as if the one were exclusive of the other...

In 1885 Robert G. Ingersoll, popularly known as "The Great Agnostic", explained his comparative view of agnosticism and atheism as follows:

The Agnostic is an Atheist. The Atheist is an Agnostic. The Agnostic says, "I do not know, but I do not believe there is any God." The Atheist says the same.

Epistemological arguments

Further information: Theological noncognitivism

Epistemological, or agnostic, atheism argues that people cannot know a God or determine the existence of a God. The foundation of epistemological atheism is agnosticism, which takes a variety of forms. In the philosophy of immanence, divinity is inseparable from the world itself, including a person's mind, and each person's consciousness is locked in the subject. According to this form of agnosticism, this limitation in perspective prevents any objective inference from belief in a god to assertions of its existence.

The rationalistic agnosticism of Kant and the Enlightenment only accepts knowledge deduced with human rationality; this form of atheism holds that gods are not discernible as a matter of principle, and therefore cannot be known to exist. Skepticism, based on the ideas of Hume, asserts that certainty about anything is impossible, so one can never know for sure whether or not a god exists. Hume, however, held that such unobservable metaphysical concepts should be rejected as "sophistry and illusion". The allocation of agnosticism to atheism is disputed; it can also be regarded as an independent, basic worldview.

Other arguments for atheism that can be classified as epistemological or ontological, including logical positivism and ignosticism, assert the meaninglessness or unintelligibility of basic terms such as "God" and statements such as "God is all-powerful." Theological noncognitivism holds that the statement "God exists" does not express a proposition, but is nonsensical or cognitively meaningless. It has been argued both ways as to whether such individuals can be classified into some form of atheism or agnosticism. Philosophers A. J. Ayer and Theodore M. Drange reject both categories, stating that both camps accept "God exists" as a proposition; they instead place noncognitivism in its own category.

References

  1. Harrison, Alexander James (1894). The Ascent of Faith: or, the Grounds of Certainty in Science and Religion. London: Hodder and Stroughton. p. 21. OCLC 7234849. OL 21834002M. Let Agnostic Theism stand for that kind of Agnosticism which admits a Divine existence; Agnostic Atheism for that kind of Agnosticism which thinks it does not.
  2. Smith, George H (1979). Atheism: The Case Against God. Prometheus Books. pp. 10–11. ISBN 9780879751241. Properly considered, agnosticism is not a third alternative to theism and atheism because it is concerned with a different aspect of religious belief. Theism and atheism refer to the presence or absence of belief in a god; agnosticism refers to the impossibility of knowledge with regard to a god or supernatural being. The term "agnostic" does not, in itself, indicate whether or not one believes in a god. Agnosticism can be either theistic or atheistic.
  3. Barker, Dan (2008). Godless: How an Evangelical Preacher Became One of America's Leading Atheists. New York: Ulysses Press. p. 96. ISBN 9781569756775. OL 24313839M. People are invariably surprised to hear me say I am both an atheist and an agnostic, as if this somehow weakens my certainty. I usually reply with a question like, "Well, are you a Republican or an American?" The two words serve different concepts and are not mutually exclusive. Agnosticism addresses knowledge; atheism addresses belief. The agnostic says, "I don't have a knowledge that God exists." The atheist says, "I don't have a belief that God exists." You can say both things at the same time. Some agnostics are atheistic and some are theistic.
  4. "Religious Composition by Country, 2010-2050". Pew Research Center's Religion & Public Life Project. 2015-04-02. Retrieved 2020-04-27.
  5. ^ Flint, Robert (1903). Agnosticism: The Croall Lecture for 1887–88. William Blackwood and Sons. pp. 49–51. OL 7193167M.
  6. Jacoby, Susan (2013). The Great Agnostic. Yale University Press. p. 17. ISBN 978-0-300-13725-5.
  7. Drange, Theodore M. (1998). "Atheism, Agnosticism, Noncognitivism". Internet Infidels, Secular Web Library. Retrieved 2007-APR-07.
  8. Ayer, A. J. (1946). Language, Truth and Logic. Dover. pp. 115–116. In a footnote, Ayer attributes this view to "Professor H. H. Price".

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