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| *], you're not going to like this, but that edit war is really already there, and if anyone was going to be blocked it would be you. If we're going to look at an edit war, we admins, we don't really look to see who's right and we certainly don't look to see what looks better--we look to see if there is consensus for this or that edit (and I don't see consensus for this on the talk page, so "most people should think" is not a thing that really means anything. Another thing we look for is an explanation: ] wrote edit summaries for most of their edits--you didn't do that for a single one. So no, I can not block this user, because I don't have a good reason to do so. I could warn you for edit warring, but I hope I made my point. You want to get the admin cabal on your side? Explain what you do in edit summaries, and open up talk page posts, if necessary, to find consensus. Good luck in the Euros, ] (]) 16:26, 14 June 2024 (UTC) | *], you're not going to like this, but that edit war is really already there, and if anyone was going to be blocked it would be you. If we're going to look at an edit war, we admins, we don't really look to see who's right and we certainly don't look to see what looks better--we look to see if there is consensus for this or that edit (and I don't see consensus for this on the talk page, so "most people should think" is not a thing that really means anything. Another thing we look for is an explanation: ] wrote edit summaries for most of their edits--you didn't do that for a single one. So no, I can not block this user, because I don't have a good reason to do so. I could warn you for edit warring, but I hope I made my point. You want to get the admin cabal on your side? Explain what you do in edit summaries, and open up talk page posts, if necessary, to find consensus. Good luck in the Euros, ] (]) 16:26, 14 June 2024 (UTC) | ||
| *], one more thing: you used Twinkle and rollback to revert your opponent's edits. Please look at ], and tell me which of those rationales for using rollback (and by extension Twinkle) applies. It can only be the first, "To revert obvious vandalism and other edits where the reason for reverting is absolutely clear"--but it can't. This was NOT obvious vandalism, and the reason for reverting was not clear at all. ] (]) 21:14, 14 June 2024 (UTC) | *], one more thing: you used Twinkle and rollback to revert your opponent's edits. Please look at ], and tell me which of those rationales for using rollback (and by extension Twinkle) applies. It can only be the first, "To revert obvious vandalism and other edits where the reason for reverting is absolutely clear"--but it can't. This was NOT obvious vandalism, and the reason for reverting was not clear at all. ] (]) 21:14, 14 June 2024 (UTC) | ||
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Today's story mentions a concert I loved to hear (DYK) and a piece I loved to sing in choir, 150 years old (OTD). -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:12, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
29 May 1913: The Rite of Spring - today's story, actually something I saw at that place in a revival (last century). - Look at Graham's page for the real thing yesterday ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:40, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
Today's story is about Samuel Kummer, one of five items on the Main page - more musing on my talk --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:56, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
The Brill book
Uhm, I don't want to be spoilsport for my own (and JT's) case, but actually, the work in question is available online. But don't worry, I have more evidence up my sleeve (and already shared it in private with JT) if needed. I just don't want to publically give away all the characteristics that they will subsequently avoid when they read their own SPI case history. Austronesier (talk) 10:55, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
- Ha, OK, that's awesome BTW--but it's also very odd. That's a Sealang website, not the Brill website (they do have e-books, including mine (haha yes, facts) but I don't think they look like that); what the user is citing is the book. Maybe we just told them what to do but it doesn't really matter. Yes, keep the rest off-wiki. If need be, if there's ever an admin interested in that unblock request (for the TPS, see Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Eiskrahablo, we'll find a way to inform them. Drmies (talk) 16:24, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
- The Sealang page has some hidden gems; this dictionary is definitely among them. Brill is not the fastest among publishers when it comes to digitalize older works (much to my own frustratration since a lot of great works in my field were published by Nijhoff). Things might change under De Gruyter as they have been a bit quicker with digitalizing old books (the only positive change to expect, I guess)... A completely different thing: have you received my email about a different LTA case that I have sent a while ago? Just curious. –Austronesier (talk) 19:14, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
- I did not. I got you in my email only when you're copied into it. But some things get filtered out, for no apparent reason. I'll send you an email so you can reply; let's see how that works. Drmies (talk) 21:39, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
- I have sent two mails, one as reply, the other one as a forward of my previous mail. Hope this works now. –Austronesier (talk) 22:08, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
- I did not. I got you in my email only when you're copied into it. But some things get filtered out, for no apparent reason. I'll send you an email so you can reply; let's see how that works. Drmies (talk) 21:39, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
- The Sealang page has some hidden gems; this dictionary is definitely among them. Brill is not the fastest among publishers when it comes to digitalize older works (much to my own frustratration since a lot of great works in my field were published by Nijhoff). Things might change under De Gruyter as they have been a bit quicker with digitalizing old books (the only positive change to expect, I guess)... A completely different thing: have you received my email about a different LTA case that I have sent a while ago? Just curious. –Austronesier (talk) 19:14, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
Draft:Raegan Revord
Why did you delete the draft? The only reason to delete the draft is when the page is published. We are talking about the biography of a leading actress in a high-profile multi-season TV series. Please reinstate the draft, or even better, publish the page. Marbe166 (talk) 06:15, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
I saw that on my watchlist, and was a little surprised since I assumed several editors including myself had spent time on editing it, though I don't know who the blocked or banned users are supposed to be. I'm not saying it's at WP:N at this point. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:41, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- Gråbergs Gråa Sång, it was re-created by a user who is now blocked (that's one of the incarnations you worked on), but I see now that I interpreted G5 too liberally and I'll restore it. The very first creator, BTW, is also blocked, and one of the most recent editors, User:Prince6191, is also a sock. To top it all of it's literally just been recreated and I need to look into that. Drmies (talk) 12:36, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks! Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 13:42, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- You may wish to restore the Talk page for it as well, if only to keep us from having to utterly restart the conversations about why the subject does not meet WP:NACTOR. -- Nat Gertler (talk) 13:40, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- Yep, please restore the talkpage too. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 13:45, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- Done. Thanks for the reminder--hadn't had coffee yet. Drmies (talk) 14:49, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- Gråbergs Gråa Sång, that draft doesn't look half-bad. Why not just move it into mainspace? It's not promotional, it has sourcing--we let many more articles with much less notability through. Oh, the socks--the biggest thing in there was this one, but the first creation was by this, and there was a sock in between that threw me off track towards deletion. Thanks again for the correction. Drmies (talk) 16:36, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- Long discussion on that at talkpage. It's debatable if the sources amount to GNG, some are sort of BLP-crappy, and one significant role doesn't make a NARTIST, apparently. Also, when the submittings started, draft was much worse, which may have built up some resistance in the WP hivemind over time. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:42, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- A resistance which is completely unfounded. There are no reasons that the article should not be published, some admins are taking a waaay to harsh stand in this case. Marbe166 (talk) 12:55, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
- Which would indicate there are reasons. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 13:49, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
- A resistance which is completely unfounded. There are no reasons that the article should not be published, some admins are taking a waaay to harsh stand in this case. Marbe166 (talk) 12:55, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
- Long discussion on that at talkpage. It's debatable if the sources amount to GNG, some are sort of BLP-crappy, and one significant role doesn't make a NARTIST, apparently. Also, when the submittings started, draft was much worse, which may have built up some resistance in the WP hivemind over time. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:42, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- Yep, please restore the talkpage too. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 13:45, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- As you were just looking at the socks involved and have a better sense of that, you may want to take a look at the new editor whose sole contributions have been a vast rewrite of the article and submitting it. -- Nat Gertler (talk) 05:23, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
- New editors, plural.... or at least plural accounts. -- Nat Gertler (talk) 14:48, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
- NatGertler, I thought I had checked that "Research" editor earlier, but I hadn't--they're gone now, along with a few others. It's a pretty weird mix of insistence and incompetence; I think whoever paid them should get their money back. Drmies (talk) 20:12, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks. I think I may request page protection, just to keep this in check. -- Nat Gertler (talk) 20:28, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
- Hmm that sounded like a request. Granted. Drmies (talk) 20:31, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you! May you have many cookies! -- Nat Gertler (talk) 20:34, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
- You should see this kitten lying next to me--that's all the cookie I need right now, but thanks! Drmies (talk) 20:39, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you! May you have many cookies! -- Nat Gertler (talk) 20:34, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
- Hmm that sounded like a request. Granted. Drmies (talk) 20:31, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks. I think I may request page protection, just to keep this in check. -- Nat Gertler (talk) 20:28, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
- NatGertler, I thought I had checked that "Research" editor earlier, but I hadn't--they're gone now, along with a few others. It's a pretty weird mix of insistence and incompetence; I think whoever paid them should get their money back. Drmies (talk) 20:12, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
- New editors, plural.... or at least plural accounts. -- Nat Gertler (talk) 14:48, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
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Re: Draft: Sharma Boy
It is fine, there is no need to be sorry! I only said he may be notable, not that he was :) -- NotCharizard 13:03, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
BLPN revdel request
Hi. Thanks in advance for your time. Should this be revdel'd? Cheers. JFHJr (㊟) 01:29, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
- Ha, I see now there was an intermediate edit, and I took care of it. Drmies (talk) 21:44, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks so much! JFHJr (㊟) 21:50, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
- No problem--thanks for noting it. I didn't see that that idiotic other comment was in between, so I had to remove that as well. Drmies (talk) 21:53, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks so much! JFHJr (㊟) 21:50, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
Page protection
Hey there, all well? Really hope so!
Do you think it's possible to "award" Carlos Xavier the same page protection you "bestowed upon" Pedro Martins a month ago or so? I'll be quick to admit that maybe one of my edit summaries may have escalated the situation, but now the IP(s, similarly endless), that only seem to care about this article in life (!!), continue reverting to a poorer version, with overlinking/overmention/poor English.
Ah, and even though i might have been hysteric in that 6 May summary, i never insulted anyone, and in turn was insulted ("wannabe smartass").
Attentively, continue to be well in and out WP! And sorry for any inconvenience again (i know that aggressive edit summaries are not welcome here, but if i was not able to stop in 18 years, maybe i never will, at least completely). RevampedEditor (talk) 15:27, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
- Ha, long time no see. I think "wannabe smartass" isn't a great insult--you can take it in stride. If you failed at being a smartass, perhaps you succeeded at being correct? I'll have a look. Did you see Ronaldo cry? Drmies (talk) 16:16, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
- Well, i suppose so, not the biggest in the name-calling department, and i have called others - vandals only, albeit - worse; 2 - yes, i am (and the other users in this article) always correct in reverting. Oh, and i earlier failed to mention this IP also REMOVES REFS!! 3 - Nope, could not be bothered to watch the game. Jorge Jesus (manager of the winning side) also has the biggest of egos, but it's very cool to see this narcissist ending his career like this, to the greatest chagrin of the millions who ass-kiss him, including hundreds of GROWN-UPS (we still have UEFA Euro 2024, hopefully it'll go well for me)! Keep it up --RevampedEditor (talk) 17:21, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
- Haha VASCO, don't hold back! Take care old friend. Drmies (talk) 17:24, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
- Well, i suppose so, not the biggest in the name-calling department, and i have called others - vandals only, albeit - worse; 2 - yes, i am (and the other users in this article) always correct in reverting. Oh, and i earlier failed to mention this IP also REMOVES REFS!! 3 - Nope, could not be bothered to watch the game. Jorge Jesus (manager of the winning side) also has the biggest of egos, but it's very cool to see this narcissist ending his career like this, to the greatest chagrin of the millions who ass-kiss him, including hundreds of GROWN-UPS (we still have UEFA Euro 2024, hopefully it'll go well for me)! Keep it up --RevampedEditor (talk) 17:21, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
Continued changing of ref style across many articles, many years
Drmies, I just discovered that the article Mating of yeast had its long-established reference style changed by Boghog on 9 May from Last, First (Doe, John S.) to Vancouver (Doe JS), contrary to policy. He used to do this often on Evolutionary Biology articles some years ago, but when reverted and warned he stopped, ... I thought. It seems he's just moved on to other areas where I'm not active, and he is still doing it on one article after another. He uses the edit comment "consistent citation formatting" when he does this; a quick search for that in his last 500 edits reveals dozens and dozens of such edits – of course, many of them may be entirely correct and justifiable if Vancouver citations are already the established majority on those articles (as is likely in Medicine and Molecular Biology, for instance); but articles like 'Mating of yeast', Forensic entomology (25 April), and Sexual script theory (24 April), do not really fall into those categories. I suppose if one applies quick edits to a lot of medical articles it would be easy to overgeneralise and do the same on Biology articles too, regardless of established reference styles there. I've posted on the Talk:Mating of yeast page but it seems to me that something should be done. What would you advise? Chiswick Chap (talk) 12:36, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Bakelmuhammad0
Would you mind casting your eyes over this LOUTSOCK. It's starting to be disruptive. 🇺🇦 Fiddle Faddle 🇺🇦 21:00, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
- Crikey! It's likely part of a much larger sock farm. The requested semi-protection will handle the current crop, and there is the no rush. I must be tired 🇺🇦 Fiddle Faddle 🇺🇦 22:32, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
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Franz Kafka died 100 years ago OTD, hence the story. I uploaded a few pics from the visit of Graham87. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:36, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
- Oh wow. Drmies (talk) 22:22, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
- Today's story is about an extraordinary biography, Peter Demetz. - I uploaded a few more pics but leave the link, because there's a new one of Graham and his mother who liked it. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:35, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
- Today's story is about a tune used by Bach and Mozart. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:55, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
This
https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Eva_Vlaardingerbroek&diff=prev&oldid=1227311849 Myrealnamm (💬pros · ✏️cons) 00:12, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
- Oh what, there's another one? Just as verbose? Drmies (talk) 00:13, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
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Sigh...
User:UltimateMikeSawyers has pledged to evade their block using other accounts and VPNs on their unblock request (as well as call the administrators bitches, unreasonable, and foolish). I'm not sure if you can do anything about it, but it makes me shake my head when I'm wondering. NoobThreePointOh (talk) 06:01, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- On a related note: I'm disappointed you didn't reply to "stop fucking trolling or I will report you to the wikipedia admins" with "I am the wikipedia admins", Doc. LilianaUwU 06:31, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- User:LilianaUwU, sorry, I missed this? And I missed an opportunity for a witty reply? Dang. Drmies (talk) 14:04, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- Hey, I mean at least you denied recognition so that this guy wouldn't try to constantly annoy or threaten you. That's something on the plus side. NoobThreePointOh (talk) 14:17, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- User:LilianaUwU, sorry, I missed this? And I missed an opportunity for a witty reply? Dang. Drmies (talk) 14:04, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
Challenging reverted re-directs
It's my understanding that if I boldly re-direct something and the re-direct is challenged, AfD is a reasonable next step. Am I doing this right? Introduction to Leadership Skills (Boy Scouts of America) Graywalls (talk) 02:55, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Before elevating to AfD, I would have suggested starting a discussion on the talk page, Talk:Introduction to Leadership Skills (Boy Scouts of America). --evrik 03:01, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- User:evrik, sure, but there's nothing wrong with the course of action Graywalls took. Community discussion etc. is great, but "Restoring deleted content" is totally not helpful. What you could have done is add the necessary secondary sourcing that proves notability before hitting revert--but the thing is, there likely is no secondary sourcing that proves notability for this by our standards, because it's such a programmatic, "internal" topic, appropriate for the organization's website but not for an encyclopedia. Drmies (talk) 15:42, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Going to the talk page would have shown good faith. --evrik 15:46, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- That works both ways. BTW should I declare my COI here, Graywalls? Both my daughters went through this and subsequent trainings. ;) Drmies (talk) 16:02, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Going to the talk page would have shown good faith. --evrik 15:46, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- User:evrik, sure, but there's nothing wrong with the course of action Graywalls took. Community discussion etc. is great, but "Restoring deleted content" is totally not helpful. What you could have done is add the necessary secondary sourcing that proves notability before hitting revert--but the thing is, there likely is no secondary sourcing that proves notability for this by our standards, because it's such a programmatic, "internal" topic, appropriate for the organization's website but not for an encyclopedia. Drmies (talk) 15:42, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
Carptrash
Could you take a look at what might be going on with Carptrash (talk · contribs)'s home IP, per his message on my talkpage? He says his home IP is blocked, but his account is not. Acroterion (talk) 12:02, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Doug Weller and Spicy are asking around already. Acroterion (talk) 13:18, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- OK--thanks. I'm grading the first set of submissions for my summer class. It's very exciting. Drmies (talk) 15:05, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- If you need a change of pace, I have a contractor's 222-page door, frame and hardware submittal to review. Or the concrete product data, it's only 54 pages. Acroterion (talk) 15:22, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Wut--that sounds even more boring. Can't you have AI do that for you? Drmies (talk) 16:03, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Hmm just got my first AI-submission for the day, putting my total at 3 for this week, out of some 20 submissions. I guess that's not bad! Drmies (talk) 16:12, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, AI has not yet learned to coordinate lockset functions, kick plates, mop plates, wall thickness, access control, ballistic protection, sustainability codes, the International Building Code, and the Life Safety Code, not to mention the client's verbally-expressed wishes for particular details. Therefore, I have a job for the foreseeable future. But I can only imagine the despair of receiving AI-generated assignments. What do you do with them? Print them, set them on fire, and mail the student the ashes? Acroterion (talk) 18:37, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Blocked by Drmies, which is why we're here. And why I'm editing at a friend's home. Carptrash (talk) 23:40, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- No I just give em a zero on the assignment and tell em not to do it again. Second infraction is an F for the clash. I'm still at only 3, and I have 17 more to go, so that's not bad. Ballistic protection??? What business are you in? Drmies (talk) 02:25, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- We do general architecture in civic, school, college/university, health care, and senior living markets. This one's a new police facility. But we're doing ballistic protection for a county treasurer's office too. People don't like to pay their taxes and sometime act up. The last courthouse we did had ballistic panels in the judges' benches. And it's a scary world when you have to think about somebody shooting up a school full of 5-10-year-olds. Acroterion (talk) 02:55, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Just got number 4! Oh dear, yes. Metal detectors at my kid's middle school, I'm used to it by now, but I shouldn't be. Hey, let's have a beer. It's Friday, isn't it? Drmies (talk) 02:58, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- We do general architecture in civic, school, college/university, health care, and senior living markets. This one's a new police facility. But we're doing ballistic protection for a county treasurer's office too. People don't like to pay their taxes and sometime act up. The last courthouse we did had ballistic panels in the judges' benches. And it's a scary world when you have to think about somebody shooting up a school full of 5-10-year-olds. Acroterion (talk) 02:55, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, AI has not yet learned to coordinate lockset functions, kick plates, mop plates, wall thickness, access control, ballistic protection, sustainability codes, the International Building Code, and the Life Safety Code, not to mention the client's verbally-expressed wishes for particular details. Therefore, I have a job for the foreseeable future. But I can only imagine the despair of receiving AI-generated assignments. What do you do with them? Print them, set them on fire, and mail the student the ashes? Acroterion (talk) 18:37, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- If you need a change of pace, I have a contractor's 222-page door, frame and hardware submittal to review. Or the concrete product data, it's only 54 pages. Acroterion (talk) 15:22, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- OK--thanks. I'm grading the first set of submissions for my summer class. It's very exciting. Drmies (talk) 15:05, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
Another Koningsberger
If you have a moment, could you take a look at Google's translation of "Mijn geweten gebiedt mij hier met diepe smart en teleurstelling te gedenken de ontheffing uit de uitoefening van hun ambt van een aantal Nederlandse collega's, uitsluitend om reden van afkomst of geloof." at Victor Jacob Koningsberger to see if it jives? I cleaned it up, but it was suspiciously coherent for GT. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 20:22, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry Chris Woodrich, I lost track of this. Yes, that's a fine translation. Interesting article. Drmies (talk) 16:38, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks. I've gotten myself down a flippin' rabbit hole with these Koningsbergers. Went from Christiaan to Victor to Hermanus Johannes Lovink to the H. J. Lovink Pumping Station, and now I have three drafts about an art colony at Oost Castle in Eijsden. :/ — Chris Woodrich (talk) 16:49, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
Regular irritant
Hi Drmies, would you mind having a look at Pieinthesky1, who is making their habitual edits in the usual playgrounds?
@SomethingForDeletion: alerted me about this likely being a familiar sock repeating the same edits on Capital punishment for homosexuality. Ohnoitsjamie (talk · contribs) sorted the last (known) episode in March involving LGBT rights in the UAE. As you have often managed also, they were so fast they got rid of them before I'd even seen the disruption. Thought we'd lost them, but no such luck.
Anyway, looks very like the same old-same old, to me. AukusRuckus (talk) 08:31, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- AukusRuckus, I will, but next time please mention the sockmaster's name or link the SPI--you have no idea how forgetful I am, even though I know I blocked at least a dozen of this person's accounts. Drmies (talk) 16:35, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- What a dope I am; sorry about that. I knew I needed to include that, yet somehow missed actually, you know, doing it. So that's an example of my own high level of memory impairment (with less excuse, not having to field checkuser requests, etc., all the time). Anyway, thanks for your help – and patience. AukusRuckus (talk) 03:54, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- No problem, my friend--we're here to serve, but I'd serve better if I didn't forget these names so easily. And this one, of course, I spent plenty of time on. BTW I get the feeling he's expanding technically, so the alertness of people like you is getting more important. Drmies (talk) 13:58, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- Hmm, more adept at technical aspects ... with this level of unshakeable (and pathological) determination? Blech. Sigh. It looks as if they're not favouring us with even a brief respite this time round. IP 118.107.220.59, looks like Jacobkennedy – just restored the same edit as Pieinthesky1 last made to Legal system of the United Arab Emirates. May I call on your good offices once again to have a look? AukusRuckus (talk) 10:39, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- Yes you may! ;) Listen, just run for admin and do it yourself next time. Drmies (talk) 16:37, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- Hmm, more adept at technical aspects ... with this level of unshakeable (and pathological) determination? Blech. Sigh. It looks as if they're not favouring us with even a brief respite this time round. IP 118.107.220.59, looks like Jacobkennedy – just restored the same edit as Pieinthesky1 last made to Legal system of the United Arab Emirates. May I call on your good offices once again to have a look? AukusRuckus (talk) 10:39, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- No problem, my friend--we're here to serve, but I'd serve better if I didn't forget these names so easily. And this one, of course, I spent plenty of time on. BTW I get the feeling he's expanding technically, so the alertness of people like you is getting more important. Drmies (talk) 13:58, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- What a dope I am; sorry about that. I knew I needed to include that, yet somehow missed actually, you know, doing it. So that's an example of my own high level of memory impairment (with less excuse, not having to field checkuser requests, etc., all the time). Anyway, thanks for your help – and patience. AukusRuckus (talk) 03:54, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
Why did you block me?
You do not have permission to edit this page, for the following reason:
This IP address has been blocked from editing Misplaced Pages.
This does not affect your ability to read Misplaced Pages pages. Most people who see this message have done nothing wrong. Some kinds of blocks restrict editing from specific service providers or telecom companies in response to recent abuse or vandalism, and can sometimes affect other users who are unrelated to that abuse. Review the information below for assistance if you do not believe that you have done anything wrong. The IP address or range <redacted> has been blocked by Drmies for the following reason(s): longterm vandalism This block will expire on 00:28, 6 June 2025. Your current IP address is <redacted>. Even when blocked, you will usually still be able to edit your user talk page, as well as email administrators and other editors. For information on how to proceed, please read the FAQ for blocked users and the guideline on block appeals. The guide to appealing blocks may also be helpful. Other useful links: Blocking policy · Help:I have been blocked Carptrash (talk) 01:05, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- It's a rangeblock, and the range in question has a good bit of vandalism coming from it. We can see if we can craft a couple of narrower ranges or figure out why you can't just log in and edit through the IP{ block - it's not you that's the problem. I'm removing your IP information for privacy, admins can still find it if needed. Acroterion (talk) 01:18, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks A. This coming after I lose the ability to sign on at home plus personal stuff like chemo have not put me in a very good space. Carptrash (talk) 22:23, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- I'm still hoping to get unblocked by you. Carptrash (talk) 00:59, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
- User:EdJohnston, User:Spicy, you all had a look--do you know what's going on? Drmies (talk) 15:18, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
- A lot of CUs have looked. There is a wide and very appropriate range block involved. It's an anon-only block though and should not impact Carptrash. -- ferret (talk) 15:41, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks Ferret. I also believe that whatever is happening is not our doing, but I really wanted that to be made clear by (yet) another admin. Carptrash, I did not block you--no one did. Drmies (talk) 15:49, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
- I am sorry if I have been accusing you unfairly, but your name comes up as the one who blocked me. Carptrash (talk) 00:50, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- Hey User:Carptrash. Based on the IP you previously listed on this page (which has since been revdelled) you were running into an anon-only block. Such a block should not stop you from editing if you were just using your account, and not attempting to edit anonymously. If you have more questions you might send me Misplaced Pages email. EdJohnston (talk) 17:44, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks Ferret. I also believe that whatever is happening is not our doing, but I really wanted that to be made clear by (yet) another admin. Carptrash, I did not block you--no one did. Drmies (talk) 15:49, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
- A lot of CUs have looked. There is a wide and very appropriate range block involved. It's an anon-only block though and should not impact Carptrash. -- ferret (talk) 15:41, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
- User:EdJohnston, User:Spicy, you all had a look--do you know what's going on? Drmies (talk) 15:18, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
- I'm still hoping to get unblocked by you. Carptrash (talk) 00:59, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks A. This coming after I lose the ability to sign on at home plus personal stuff like chemo have not put me in a very good space. Carptrash (talk) 22:23, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
I am unable to sign on to my wikipedia account at home. I just et messages that are not helpful. Carptrash (talk) 00:50, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
Vandalism at Binibining Pilipinas 2024
Hello @Drmies, would you mind having a look at @Editscontent2.9? This editor has been vandalizing the article Binibining Pilipinas 2024 by adding fake results and at Miss Universe 2024 by adding Miss Floptropica. This behavior has been going on since 2022 I believe. Allyriana000 (talk) 02:22, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- Sure but I need some specifics--diffs, reverts with solid explanations, talk page warnings. In this edit, you didn't give a reason. Not only is that not OK (you NEED to give a reason), but you also didn't warn the IP. Same here. Anyway, without those explanations and the attendant warnings, I have to figure out for myself what the problem is, and I am no expert in those articles. User:Ave maria 101, are you saying that they inserted a list of winners long before the contest was actually held? Drmies (talk) 16:26, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- Apologies for not giving a reason to one edit. The revert was due to the unnecessary changing of names into the shorter names. Allyriana000 (talk) 16:36, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
I laughed madly!
Come @Drmies, you have instructed me to take Draft:Aroz Rai to FA. How do I start this one even. You are more than funny. Ah! Ok, there is no problem with that. What if I tell you about this: I have not wanted to tell Josh so that he won't join. I want to take one page to FA ASAP. Do you know the page I mean? this one. What do you think? Is it going to pass? Haha! 🤣🤣🤣. Safari Scribe 21:00, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- Well, I thought I'd give you all a real challenge! Kylie turned that down. No, this page is not going to pass: too much unencyclopedic chatter! Srsly someone, I think someone there, maybe User:Novem Linguae, says it wasn't the hardest thing in the world, and I'm thinking I might want to try that with the thing I'm working on right now. But good luck with that influencer! ;) Drmies (talk) 21:06, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- That draft has every single reference red in my cite highlighter script. lol. I think picking the article is a pretty hard part of GA that I forgot to mention. Once you've found that perfect article that isn't wp:owned by anyone and that has plenty of books that aren't yet in the article, then you're in pretty good shape. –Novem Linguae (talk) 03:03, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
- Exactly. I just got one from AFC and will be working on it. Novem chill, seems Drmies wants to drag you to court. Why not prove him wrong even by beginning with that draft or let me find you related that you can take up to GA. I trust you will do good with them. 😂 Safari Scribe 03:13, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
- I plead the fifth ;-) –Novem Linguae (talk) 03:47, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
- User:Novem Linguae, I hadn't looked carefully enough at that draft and decided to delete it. Drmies (talk) 15:28, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
- I plead the fifth ;-) –Novem Linguae (talk) 03:47, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
- Exactly. I just got one from AFC and will be working on it. Novem chill, seems Drmies wants to drag you to court. Why not prove him wrong even by beginning with that draft or let me find you related that you can take up to GA. I trust you will do good with them. 😂 Safari Scribe 03:13, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
- OH! Novem Linguae brought that upon himself. Maybe I will join you in tasking him. Safari Scribe 03:08, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
- That draft has every single reference red in my cite highlighter script. lol. I think picking the article is a pretty hard part of GA that I forgot to mention. Once you've found that perfect article that isn't wp:owned by anyone and that has plenty of books that aren't yet in the article, then you're in pretty good shape. –Novem Linguae (talk) 03:03, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
Request
Hi Drmies, I would appreciate it if you would not follow me around tracking my edits. In the past week, you have followed me to two pages on which you have never made an edit. Thank you in advance. – notwally (talk) 22:06, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) Notwally, can I stalk you instead? I'm bored stalking Drmies.--Bbb23 (talk) 22:12, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
- Honestly, you or Drmies are free to stalk me, just maybe more subtly? I'm glad to see you are not retired anymore and are still out there fighting socks. – notwally (talk) 22:22, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks. Seriously, what makes you think that Drmies's editing two of the same pages you've edited (don't know which pages you're referring to) is "tracking" your edits? Drmies is an eclectic editor - he edits many pages, many topics. Maybe he reverted you? Is that's what upset you? Without knowing more, I just think your "request" is odd. But I'll bow out and let Drmies respond if he wishes to.--Bbb23 (talk) 22:32, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
- The most recent page was Carbon, but I assume Drmies started following me after a dispute on the talk page of user Microplastic Consumer about edits made to Sam Sloan, which I think Drmies needlessly escalated. That interaction seems to have gotten to him, because after I edited the carbon page today, he immediately "thanked" my edit, despite never having edited that page in the past. I don't think Drmies has ever reverted one of my edits. This is simply a case of one editor following another, and a request to have it stop. – notwally (talk) 22:51, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
- Whoa, I just looked at the discussion on MC's Talk page. "needlessly excalated"? The only editor I see escalating anything is you. You're lucky to have escaped without sanctions.--Bbb23 (talk) 23:00, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
- Sanctions for a single sockpuppet warning? Come on. I'll be the one to bow out from this conversation with you now. Clearly admins here need to find more useful work to do. Feel free to look into the sockpuppetry on that page. Drmies can respond if he wants, but it is entirely not necessary. – notwally (talk) 23:08, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for the entertainment. I love useless work.--Bbb23 (talk) 23:10, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
notwally: dude. I watch Recent changes, all the time. I saw you make an edit, "rm excessive wikilinking" or something like that. I thanked you for it--I think you made two edits in the same article. You removed links around basic words, and that is what I also do, all the time, so I appreciate it. That's not stalking. But don't worry: I won't thank you anymore for good things you do and, honestly, when I clicked "thank" I had to remind myself who you were, because I'm so forgetful that I can barely hold a grudge. If you want to call my thanking you "following", well, I suppose you can interpret it that way. Drmies (talk) 16:24, 13 June 2024 (UTC)Ha, to prove my point, that wasn't even you, so I don't know what you mean off the top of my head, unless I go through your contributions--but that would be stalking, even though they are public, no? Drmies (talk) 16:39, 13 June 2024 (UTC)- It looks to me like you did thank Wally for their edits to Carbon. Their second edit was at 21:57, and you thanked them at 21:58.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:46, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- Sheesh I'm getting fucking old. Thanks. Hey, I just went through the FAFSA/MPN process for federal loans for my kid. If you can send me $7000 a semester I won't have to do the PLUS loans, which I didn't even know existed. My brain is empty. So I thanked them huh? Nice of me! Drmies (talk) 18:19, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- We just wrote a check to the U.S. State Department. I'm sure that will help. I've never thanked anyone - frankly, I think it's silly. But if we're going to have a thanks thing, we should also have a "you're welcome" thing and then a "not at all" thing and then a "don't even mention it" thing. All this civility on a platform where we can say fuck as much as we please. Maybe we should have a "fuck off" thing; as long as it's in a log, it doesn't count as a personal attack. There, now I'm in your boat: writing this has emptied my brain. I'll refill it later with the usual sawdust.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:30, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- Drmies, if we don't have an issue, then that is great to hear. If I ever win the lottery, maybe I can help with the college bills. I guess until then you will have to rely on Bbb23. – notwally (talk) 18:33, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- notwally, I don't have an issue with you. I appreciate the financial support. Unfortunately Bbb can be relied on for lots of things, but money is not one of them--but watch them hit me up when I buy my house in France. Drmies (talk) 20:55, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- I assumed all the admins here already had houses in France. Where else do you all plot what you are going to do to the rest of us? – notwally (talk) 21:04, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- No, that's just the admins on Commons, who get a percentage from Porntube from those auto-fellatio videos. The rest of us just eat our crickets and manifest thankfulness. Drmies (talk) 21:37, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- I'll start spending more time on Commons then. – notwally (talk) 01:43, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
- No, that's just the admins on Commons, who get a percentage from Porntube from those auto-fellatio videos. The rest of us just eat our crickets and manifest thankfulness. Drmies (talk) 21:37, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- I assumed all the admins here already had houses in France. Where else do you all plot what you are going to do to the rest of us? – notwally (talk) 21:04, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- notwally, I don't have an issue with you. I appreciate the financial support. Unfortunately Bbb can be relied on for lots of things, but money is not one of them--but watch them hit me up when I buy my house in France. Drmies (talk) 20:55, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- Drmies, if we don't have an issue, then that is great to hear. If I ever win the lottery, maybe I can help with the college bills. I guess until then you will have to rely on Bbb23. – notwally (talk) 18:33, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- We just wrote a check to the U.S. State Department. I'm sure that will help. I've never thanked anyone - frankly, I think it's silly. But if we're going to have a thanks thing, we should also have a "you're welcome" thing and then a "not at all" thing and then a "don't even mention it" thing. All this civility on a platform where we can say fuck as much as we please. Maybe we should have a "fuck off" thing; as long as it's in a log, it doesn't count as a personal attack. There, now I'm in your boat: writing this has emptied my brain. I'll refill it later with the usual sawdust.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:30, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- Sheesh I'm getting fucking old. Thanks. Hey, I just went through the FAFSA/MPN process for federal loans for my kid. If you can send me $7000 a semester I won't have to do the PLUS loans, which I didn't even know existed. My brain is empty. So I thanked them huh? Nice of me! Drmies (talk) 18:19, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- It looks to me like you did thank Wally for their edits to Carbon. Their second edit was at 21:57, and you thanked them at 21:58.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:46, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- Sanctions for a single sockpuppet warning? Come on. I'll be the one to bow out from this conversation with you now. Clearly admins here need to find more useful work to do. Feel free to look into the sockpuppetry on that page. Drmies can respond if he wants, but it is entirely not necessary. – notwally (talk) 23:08, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
- Whoa, I just looked at the discussion on MC's Talk page. "needlessly excalated"? The only editor I see escalating anything is you. You're lucky to have escaped without sanctions.--Bbb23 (talk) 23:00, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
- The most recent page was Carbon, but I assume Drmies started following me after a dispute on the talk page of user Microplastic Consumer about edits made to Sam Sloan, which I think Drmies needlessly escalated. That interaction seems to have gotten to him, because after I edited the carbon page today, he immediately "thanked" my edit, despite never having edited that page in the past. I don't think Drmies has ever reverted one of my edits. This is simply a case of one editor following another, and a request to have it stop. – notwally (talk) 22:51, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks. Seriously, what makes you think that Drmies's editing two of the same pages you've edited (don't know which pages you're referring to) is "tracking" your edits? Drmies is an eclectic editor - he edits many pages, many topics. Maybe he reverted you? Is that's what upset you? Without knowing more, I just think your "request" is odd. But I'll bow out and let Drmies respond if he wishes to.--Bbb23 (talk) 22:32, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
- Honestly, you or Drmies are free to stalk me, just maybe more subtly? I'm glad to see you are not retired anymore and are still out there fighting socks. – notwally (talk) 22:22, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
- Cripes, I wish I'd kept my villa in Nice when I gave up my mop. Woulda been nice to have something aside from a huge ... book collection. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 13:30, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
- My very own castle. I particularly like the view from the tower, although the stairs are a killer. I'm running a special Spring sale if you're interested. I'm getting a bit tired of castle-hopping.--Bbb23 (talk) 13:44, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
- Why not try taking the stairs two at a time? I always do that when I see some steps (although it is a little hard). NoobThreePointOh (talk) 13:50, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
- First, these are stone stairs, so if you fall, it's not pretty. Second, it really is a tower, so the stairwell is circular, I suppose a gymnast might be able to do it, but... --Bbb23 (talk) 13:59, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
- Oh... I assumed it was regular stairs. :( NoobThreePointOh (talk) 14:04, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
- Actually, nvm. You're right about the spiral. I don't take the stairs two at a time on those. NoobThreePointOh (talk) 14:05, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
- Huh, my second choice was a bit more modern. Stone gets awfully cold, and those stairs look painful. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 14:57, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
- Actually, nvm. You're right about the spiral. I don't take the stairs two at a time on those. NoobThreePointOh (talk) 14:05, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
- Oh... I assumed it was regular stairs. :( NoobThreePointOh (talk) 14:04, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
- First, these are stone stairs, so if you fall, it's not pretty. Second, it really is a tower, so the stairwell is circular, I suppose a gymnast might be able to do it, but... --Bbb23 (talk) 13:59, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
- Why not try taking the stairs two at a time? I always do that when I see some steps (although it is a little hard). NoobThreePointOh (talk) 13:50, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
- My very own castle. I particularly like the view from the tower, although the stairs are a killer. I'm running a special Spring sale if you're interested. I'm getting a bit tired of castle-hopping.--Bbb23 (talk) 13:44, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
Crisco that is SPECTACULAR. I'd never heard of it. I assume you wrote that up? Drmies (talk) 16:37, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah, it grew out of the Lovink article chain. Saw some pictures under the Roosenburgs, and I swear that must have been some castle. Countryside looks beautiful too. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 16:43, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
Answer
Not going to go into any detail... Google has the answers. Catfish Jim and the soapdish 10:38, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
- Ew. Drmies (talk) 16:31, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah. Catfish Jim and the soapdish 20:54, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
England football/soccer team: Possible edit war
Hello Drmies, there is this user AnimeBatman who keeps reverting my edits to the "England national football team" article. Most people should think my edit to the right looks better than AnimeBatman's version to the left. I feel like an edit war is going to happen soon, and I want this page to look as good as possible for the Euros. Could you please block this user? Thanks, Nearly but not perfect (talk) 15:44, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
- User:I'm not perfect but I'm almost, you're not going to like this, but that edit war is really already there, and if anyone was going to be blocked it would be you. If we're going to look at an edit war, we admins, we don't really look to see who's right and we certainly don't look to see what looks better--we look to see if there is consensus for this or that edit (and I don't see consensus for this on the talk page, so "most people should think" is not a thing that really means anything. Another thing we look for is an explanation: User:AnimeBatman wrote edit summaries for most of their edits--you didn't do that for a single one. So no, I can not block this user, because I don't have a good reason to do so. I could warn you for edit warring, but I hope I made my point. You want to get the admin cabal on your side? Explain what you do in edit summaries, and open up talk page posts, if necessary, to find consensus. Good luck in the Euros, Drmies (talk) 16:26, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
- Nearly but not perfect, one more thing: you used Twinkle and rollback to revert your opponent's edits. Please look at WP:ROLLBACKUSE, and tell me which of those rationales for using rollback (and by extension Twinkle) applies. It can only be the first, "To revert obvious vandalism and other edits where the reason for reverting is absolutely clear"--but it can't. This was NOT obvious vandalism, and the reason for reverting was not clear at all. Drmies (talk) 21:14, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
The usual at K-pop
Hi doc. We have a situation at NU'EST. Thanks. Dr. K. 11:02, 15 June 2024 (UTC)