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:Whether you know those details are don't, there simply isn't the ambiguity you describe unless you purposefully think too hard about it. <span style="border-radius:2px;padding:3px;background:#1E816F">]<span style="color:#fff"> ‥ </span>]</span> 16:46, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
:Whether you know those details are don't, there simply isn't the ambiguity you describe unless you purposefully think too hard about it. <span style="border-radius:2px;padding:3px;background:#1E816F">]<span style="color:#fff"> ‥ </span>]</span> 16:46, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
::Valid point. I probably was thinking too hard about it. I tend to do that a lot. Lol. Would that mean that the dates such as the birth date of his predecessor would be O.S. too? ] (]) 18:08, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
::Valid point. I probably was thinking too hard about it. I tend to do that a lot. Lol. Would that mean that the dates such as the birth date of his predecessor would be O.S. too? ] (]) 18:08, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
:::See ] for the "rules". ] (]) 18:39, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
::Point of pedantry: Scotland adopted Gregorian NS from 1600 but England didn't until 1752. ] (]) 18:33, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
::Point of pedantry: Scotland adopted Gregorian NS from 1600 but England didn't until 1752. ] (]) 18:33, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
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King James was a member of the Church of Scotland, and he remained committed to the Church of Scotland. For his religion it should say "Church of Scotland" rather than not having it at all. TheFriendlyFas2 (talk) 06:07, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
He was an Episcopalian. Linking to a Presbyterian church is misleading. Remember this was before the split in the Church of Scotland or the foundation of the Scottish Episcopal Church. As was said elsewhere, he was also baptised Catholic, and he worshipped with the Church of England after 1603. This is too complicated for an infobox, which should be simple and succinct. DrKay (talk) 09:02, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
I think you should change his religion. Itid1878 s pretty well-known. He was Catholic, but because he was king of Scotland and England he had no troops without protestant, and he couldn't even walk outside of his castle without being a protestant so well. He acted in Catholic interests. It was publicly proud of student because he had no choice. But he is famously the king that united all three crowns 2001:56B:3FFA:E3FB:340D:4894:3AD2:5F0B (talk) 22:59, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
Maybe you're right, he wasn't a Presbyterian but he certainly wasn't an Episcopalian. It wouldn't be misleading to link to the Church of Scotland since that's the denomination that he was a member of, it wouldn't be misleading in the slightest. Though he may have worshipped & been active in the CoE, he kept his Calvinist beliefs & continued to worship with the Church of Scotland, he never made any sort if commitment to the CoE. Also the fact that he was baptized a Catholic doesn't really make any sort of difference because he was never a practicing Catholic & grew up as a Calvinist. Just say he was a Calvinist or a Protestant at the least, or you could even put "Protestant
Prev. Catholic" and it'd be as simple as that. What about that sounds too complicated to you? TheFriendlyFas2 (talk) 01:02, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
Seriously? This is far too complicated for an infobox. They are supposed to answer obvious questions, not beg new ones. It's not going to happen. Johnbod (talk) 02:34, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
He supported episcopal polity but he was still Calvinist. It was a very popular movement among the noble laymen in the Church of Scotland. TheFriendlyFas2 (talk) 08:09, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
He certainly wasn't at the end of his reign - if anything he tried to stamp out Calvinism in the CoE, promoted Laud etc and there was the 5 Articles of Perth. Where's your source for his Calvinism? DeCausa (talk) 08:22, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
When the same editor says in one post "he certainly wasn't an Episcopalian" and then in a following post, with no hint of irony or retraction, "He supported episcopal polity", that doesn't make much sense. Complicated issues are unsuitable for inclusion in an infobox. Celia Homeford (talk) 09:10, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
James as an author
How come we have very little at all about James' literary skills? It was extremely uncommon for a monarch to actually write/dictate whole texts the way he did. And indeed, he actually penned the first manuscript of Demonology himself in his own hand, which was a major change from past precedent, and not something we see again among European monarchs till the Enlightenment.
There is a great deal to be said about James' authorship being almost totally removed from the traditional acts of Kingship normally prescribed to European monarchs at the time. I am not a great Misplaced Pages writer, but I do think that someone ought to elaborate on this. 2603:7000:9902:C1A:55A0:DD0D:5B99:AA47 (talk) 02:16, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
Legacy
Seems to be a decided attempt by certain determined sources to kill off any depiction of his as one of the few proto-Western rulers to have shown any sense, mercy or progression. Seems as though we need some less ideological based sources to correct this, not like sources that say things like "He said or did this bad thing once, common by times as it were, he is defined by it forever." 113.197.13.138 (talk) 07:38, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
Please do not remove additions to ancestry charts
Please do not remove additions to ancestry chart as it adds easily understandable context to the page which does not violate any notices Chonky edna 2.1 (talk) 11:57, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
Please do not expand this section. Four generations is more than sufficient to explain the context and additional of all great-great-grandparents introduces irrelevant material that is incompatible with WP:NOTGENEALOGY and WP:INDISCRIMINATE. DrKay (talk) 12:48, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
Agreed - don't expand either in this article or the others where you have done the same. @Chonky edna 2.1: you are the one the one that needs to persuade other editors of the value of your addition per WP:BRD. Don't re-add unless and until there is consensus for it. 18:06, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
Puzzling character sentence in the lead
Can we get a hint in the sentence, "Anthony Weldon claimed that James had been termed "the wisest fool in Christendom", an epithet associated with his character ever since" of why?
It's puzzling in context as it suggests the Bible translation and Prayer book are the cause? Why? The footnote does not clear it up. Henry of France famously had to deal with violent religious problems (even converting), as did much of Continental Europe. And a similar thing occurred in England but after James. So it might suggest, others thought he was not threading the needle of religious strife "wisely" (encouraging both sides?) but maybe that's not it. It's confusing or begging for a bit more info, as is, I think. Alanscottwalker (talk) 17:49, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
Julian and Gregorian Calendars **Important**
The dates for the death of Gregorian vs Julian is really confusing when you look at the death. It starts to make you wonder if the Burial Dates and the Birth Dates are Gregorian or Julian. I myself wonder this too and I feel like we should be clarifying if it is one or the other. It also makes you confused with other articles preceding the time changes. For example: Was the Birth Date of when his father was born Julian or Gregorian. This isn't just going to be this article problem, it might end up having to change all the Misplaced Pages pages. This is really important and I would like to have thoughts on this please. Reader of Information (talk) 16:30, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
Not really.
NS is specifically indicated, which would seem to imply unmarked dates are OS, especially since Britain didn't adopt Gregorian until the 18th century.
Gregorian was first introduced during James's life, so the birth date being Gregorian would make no sense.
Whether you know those details are don't, there simply isn't the ambiguity you describe unless you purposefully think too hard about it. Remsense ‥ 论16:46, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
Valid point. I probably was thinking too hard about it. I tend to do that a lot. Lol. Would that mean that the dates such as the birth date of his predecessor would be O.S. too? Reader of Information (talk) 18:08, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
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