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	== Poor and/or biased references ==		== Poor and/or biased references ==
	Concerning the claim from the introductory paragraph that Griffin's theories on the Federal Reseve have been debunked, I followed the (single) citation to a book called "Pranksters : making mischief in the modern world" and read the relevant chapters. It does '''nothing''' by way of "disproving" the claim, and no actual, fact-based argument is advanced. Instead, it's but a "claim against the claim", a simple statement in other words that what Griffin says is wrong and/or exaggerated, while shame is attributed to the otherwise respectable men who promoted his theories. It's a mark of hypocrisy to call a theory debunked by citing a reference that does not even try to debunk it factually. I believe that this entire claim must be removed from this article, or citations to actual proofs must be found. {{unsigned\|62.74.254.1820\|September ~~2024‎}}~~		Concerning the claim from the introductory paragraph that Griffin's theories on the Federal Reseve have been debunked, I followed the (single) citation to a book called "Pranksters : making mischief in the modern world" and read the relevant chapters. It does '''nothing''' by way of "disproving" the claim, and no actual, fact-based argument is advanced. Instead, it's but a "claim against the claim", a simple statement in other words that what Griffin says is wrong and/or exaggerated, while shame is attributed to the otherwise respectable men who promoted his theories. It's a mark of hypocrisy to call a theory debunked by citing a reference that does not even try to debunk it factually. I believe that this entire claim must be removed from this article, or citations to actual proofs must be found. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) September 2024 (UTC)</small>
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As several of the alleged "conspiracy theories" have now been proved to be true...

... should we not revisit this, and remove the inappropriate language, and obviously political labelling? 37.189.169.148 (talk) 07:07, 28 April 2023 (UTC)

Your sources? Per WP:EXCEPTIONAL: "Any exceptional claim requires multiple high-quality sources." JimRenge (talk) 10:27, 28 April 2023 (UTC)

Careful, you'll get banned for a week like I did. 72.36.47.247 (talk) 21:02, 25 August 2023 (UTC)

Jim's response is more to the point. --Hob Gadling (talk) 06:49, 26 August 2023 (UTC)

This entire article is radical communist leftist nonsense with no references or facts to support any claims. 2601:2C3:867F:4760:397D:805C:C5AD:7B81 (talk) 22:17, 27 August 2023 (UTC)

Wow, unsupported statement, following by bizarre ad hominem, followed by "COMMIES!", and not a single actual source or reference, just abuse. --Orange Mike | Talk 00:15, 28 August 2023 (UTC)

Poor and/or biased references

Concerning the claim from the introductory paragraph that Griffin's theories on the Federal Reseve have been debunked, I followed the (single) citation to a book called "Pranksters : making mischief in the modern world" and read the relevant chapters. It does nothing by way of "disproving" the claim, and no actual, fact-based argument is advanced. Instead, it's but a "claim against the claim", a simple statement in other words that what Griffin says is wrong and/or exaggerated, while shame is attributed to the otherwise respectable men who promoted his theories. It's a mark of hypocrisy to call a theory debunked by citing a reference that does not even try to debunk it factually. I believe that this entire claim must be removed from this article, or citations to actual proofs must be found. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.74.254.1820 (talk • contribs) September 2024 (UTC)

Not done The source is fine. Bon courage (talk) 15:28, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

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