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:::The main article and the template is referring to the same ideology. So it is best for readers to be consistent. ] (]) 07:27, 23 September 2024 (UTC) :::The main article and the template is referring to the same ideology. So it is best for readers to be consistent. ] (]) 07:27, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
::::Currently, there are a lot of users who support "Neoconservatism", and you are the only 1 who supports "Neoauthoritarianism". So, for now, we need to keep the title as "Neoconservantism". ] (]) 07:36, 23 September 2024 (UTC) ::::Currently, there are a lot of users who support "Neoconservatism", and you are the only 1 who supports "Neoauthoritarianism". So, for now, we need to keep the title as "Neoconservantism". ] (]) 07:36, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
::::Above all, the phrase "Neoauthoritarianism in China" is so long that the template is longer than the original size. This is a very serious problem because the template sizes are different when used at the same time as the "Conservatism in China" template. See ] (]) 07:42, 23 September 2024 (UTC)

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Title

  • Neoconservatism in China
  • Neoauthoritarianism in China

There's a 'move' war going on about which of these two is more appropriate for the title. Let's discuss it here.

I prefer "Neoconservatism". The reason is that I can clearly convey to my readers that this is a conservative ideology, and the moderate/liberal-conservatives in Hong Kong or Macau are less authoritarian. Above all, when arranging "Ideologies," if the title is "Neoauthoritarianism," what can simply be shortened to Authoritarian, Cultural, Social, and Ultra should be written as Authoritarian conservatism, Cultural conservatism, Social conservatism and Ultraconservatism. Because unfamiliar readers may not be able to grasp whether "Neoauthoritarianism" is conservative. ProKMT (talk) 07:10, 23 September 2024 (UTC)

  • Neoauthoritarianism in China is more fitting because it emphasizes centralized authority, which better describes China's political structure. The term "Neoconservatism" might suggest a balance with liberal values, which doesn't fully capture the importance of authority in China's context. The link also redirects to neoauthoritarianism article not neoconservatism. Since the ideology's name in the article is widely agreed as neoauthoritarianism, the template should mirror the main article. If not, it would confuse readers.
Guotaian (talk) 07:21, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
According to that logic, the title of the article is "Neoauthoritarianism (China)" in the first place, not "Neoauthoritarianism in China" ProKMT (talk) 07:24, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
The main article and the template is referring to the same ideology. So it is best for readers to be consistent. Guotaian (talk) 07:27, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
Currently, there are a lot of users who support "Neoconservatism", and you are the only 1 who supports "Neoauthoritarianism". So, for now, we need to keep the title as "Neoconservantism". ProKMT (talk) 07:36, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
Above all, the phrase "Neoauthoritarianism in China" is so long that the template is longer than the original size. This is a very serious problem because the template sizes are different when used at the same time as the "Conservatism in China" template. See Global Times ProKMT (talk) 07:42, 23 September 2024 (UTC)