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I think the " Cold War Perspective " section is unnecessary

" According to Abraham Rabinovich, the complete dominance of U.S. and Israeli technology and tactics over those of the Eastern Bloc was to have been a factor that hastened the demise of the Warsaw Pact and Soviet Union. However, this was not the first confrontation in which Soviet weaponry had been outmatched by American weaponry. In many of the Cold War conflicts the Americans and their allies had superior technology. Nonetheless, the gap between the First World and Second World weaponry was more apparent in the 1980s and weighed more heavily on Second World leaders. "

Implying the 1982 Lebanon War somehow contributed to Perestroika or the collapse of the Eastern Bloc is beyond silly, Soviet Military equipment was being used effectively in numerous other conflicts at the time and Soviet Military equipment/Soviet allies had always suffered higher losses compared to their American counterparts.

War? It was the beginning of occupation.

My comments from months ago in this topic were deleted on this talk page, which is weird.

Renaming article to 1982 occupation, instead of war.

Someone is using b o t to delete my talk comment.

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I request "Total Lebanese" in the Infobox for casualties3 be changed to "Total Casualties". This figure is from the Lebanese authorities. The article section (1982 Lebanon War#Lebanese, Palestinian, and Syrian casualties) makes it clear that this figure is for all casualties, not only Lebanese but also includes Palestinians. Thanks 92.26.8.150 (talk) 09:41, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

 Done Bunnypranav (talk) 14:45, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

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@EnfantDeLaVille: Why did you restore background information to the opening paragraph which must be kept neutral and general? And why did you remove the Israeli military's role in facilitating the massacre, not just backing the Phalangists? Makeandtoss (talk) 09:31, 25 September 2024 (UTC)

What are your sources that Israeli forces faciliated the massacre, not just backed the Phalangists?

and what are you sources to your version of the text, that outrage at the Israeli military's role in facilitating the massacre led to its withdrawal?

Please share sources to your statements. I don't think they are supported by the majority of sources. EnfantDeLaVille (talk) 10:47, 25 September 2024 (UTC)

@EnfantDeLaVille: Sabra and Shatila massacre: "As the massacre unfolded, the IDF received reports of atrocities being committed, but did not take any action to stop it. Instead, Israeli troops were stationed at the exits of the area to prevent the camp's residents from leaving and, at the request of the Lebanese Forces, shot flares to illuminate Sabra and Shatila through the night during the massacre." Makeandtoss (talk) 10:50, 25 September 2024 (UTC)

Listen, I think you're wrong, but I'm not going to argue. Misplaced Pages is not a reliable source. But if you're absolutely sure that's what the majority of reliable sources say, do what you understand. EnfantDeLaVille (talk) 11:40, 25 September 2024 (UTC)

@EnfantDeLaVille: There are direct quotes from RS in the massacre's article supporting the claim, so I will restore that given your non-objection. I am still waiting for your response however on why background information was move up to the opening paragraph which must be kept general? Makeandtoss (talk) 09:26, 26 September 2024 (UTC)

@EnfantDeLaVille: I will also take your non-response on the question as another non-objection? Makeandtoss (talk) 12:01, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

Any other opinions? Makeandtoss (talk) 10:47, 2 October 2024 (UTC)

I read the sources. They say nothing about IDF facilitating the massacre, that's false. Galamore (talk) 10:07, 3 October 2024 (UTC)

@Galamore: Lighting up flares in the night and surrounding the refugee camp while the massacre ensued is indeed facilitation.

• LATimes is an RS per WP: "As a purely gratuitous bonus, Sharon and his army later facilitated the massacre of hundreds of Palestinians at the refugee camps of Sabra and Shatila,"
• Cambridge University Press book: "The IDF allowed the militia access to the Sabra and Shatila refugee camps and facilitated the massacre"

@EnfantDeLaVille: As for the phrasing you mentioned, I am not changing the phrasing, merely asking why you restored background information to the opening paragraph where it does not belong? Makeandtoss (talk) 12:42, 3 October 2024 (UTC)

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Please spell out IDF at first usage and link to IDF page. Thank you. Bdbarb (talk) 15:13, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

 Done Rainsage (talk) 23:48, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

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