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References to use
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- Booker, M. Keith (2007). "V for Vendetta". May Contain Graphic Material: Comic Books, Graphic Novels, and Film. Praeger. ISBN 0275993868.
- Keller, James R. (2008). V For Vendetta As Cultural Pastiche: A Critical Study of the Graphic Novel and Film. McFarland. ISBN 0786434678.
- Reynolds, James (2009). "'KILL ME SENTIMENT': V For Vendetta and comic-to-film adaptation". Journal of Adaptation in Film & Performance. 2 (2): 121–136. doi:10.1386/jafp.2.2.121_1. ISSN 1753-6421.
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ignored (help) - Williams, Tony (2006). "Assessing V For Vendetta". CineAction (70): 16–23. ISSN 0826-9866.
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ignored (help) "Looks at V FOR VENDETTA in the current political climate." - Shay, Estelle (2006). "Overview: Dan Glass on V for Vendetta". Cinefex (106): 15–20. ISSN 0198-1056.
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ignored (help) "An overview of visual effects supervisor Dan Glass' and Cine -site's work on V FOR VENDETTA." - Winterton, Ian (2006). "Fear Me". Empire (202): 89, 91–95. ISSN 0957-4948.
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ignored (help) "Cast and crew discuss the making of and the themes in the film V FOR VENDETTA." - Wolff, Michael (2006). "R for Revolution". Vanity Fair (546): 44, 46–47. ISSN 0733-8899.
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ignored (help) "Article considering V FOR VENDETTA as a reflection of the post-9/11 world, and placing it in the tradition of 'cultural sabotage' embodied by films such as IF.... and A CLOCKWORK ORANGE." - "The V for Vendetta". Film Review (664): 80–81. 2005. ISSN 0957-1809.
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ignored (help) "Co-creator Dez Skin and original artist David Lloyd discuss the genesis and controversy surrounding the release delay of V FOR VENDETTA."
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Alternative Interpretation
I read somewhere that V might have actually been Valerie (the 'V' being significant), and that rather than avenging her, he was seeking revenge for what they had done to her in order to cure her "disorder": a partial change to her sex and/or gender that had unexpected repercussions. I don't know how credible this interpretation is, but it made sense to me. Unfortunately I can find no reference to it now. Anyone come across it before? TonyP (talk) 15:46, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
- Yes, this subtext is a valid interpretation of the story, particularly considering Lana and Lily Wachowski are both trans women. According to this alternate interpretation, Valerie was imprisoned at Larkhill for being a lesbian, and experimented on as a result. It is implied that these experiments may have included chemical castration and forced sex reassignment, among others. During this period she left notes in her cell. Eventually, Valerie forgot her past self and began to identify as V. V found their own notes and, assuming they had been written by someone else, was inspired to escape and destroy Larkhill.
- There is significant subtext in the fil to support this interpretation, but it is never explicitly stated as far as I know.
- It would be nice to see this included in the article, but I cannot currently search for references to support this claim. If you wish to, I would recommend looking into interviews with the Wachowskis'. 192.77.12.11 (talk) 06:53, 30 November 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks for the details. I looked again and still came up short. It would be nice to include a mention of this on the page, here, but without a "reliable source" then it may get pulled down. I will watch that interview but I don't recall any statements from him to that effect. TonyP (talk) 10:57, 30 November 2022 (UTC)
- This interpretation is a stretch, and there is no implication that the experiments included sex reassignments - considering the views of the people doing the experiments, that's the opposite of what they were going for. Argento Surfer (talk) 13:50, 30 November 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks for the details. I looked again and still came up short. It would be nice to include a mention of this on the page, here, but without a "reliable source" then it may get pulled down. I will watch that interview but I don't recall any statements from him to that effect. TonyP (talk) 10:57, 30 November 2022 (UTC)
2005 or 2006 film?
Should we categorise it as a 2005 or 2006 film? This edit from September changed the release year to 2006, although the film's first major premiere was in late 2005 followed by a wider release in 2006. —Jonny Nixon (talk) 13:26, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
- I really don't think preview screenings should determine when a film is released, especially the butt numb a thon or whatever. It's like counting executive screenings as a release date. It should be the theatrical/digital debut date only. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 13:28, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
- It came out in 2005. Case closed ShockwaveFPS (talk) 07:20, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
- "Case closed" is a funny way of saying "I'm wrong" when the official website says 2006 nyah. The only places I can see it as 2005 are IMDb and AllMovie which both accept user edits. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 09:49, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
- It looks like 2005 may be correct per MOS:FILMYEAR, which states, "List films by their earliest release date, whether it be at a film festival, a world premiere, a public release, or the release in the country or countries that produced the film, excluding sneak previews or screenings." DonIago (talk) 13:52, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
- "Case closed" is a funny way of saying "I'm wrong" when the official website says 2006 nyah. The only places I can see it as 2005 are IMDb and AllMovie which both accept user edits. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 09:49, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
Adrian Biddle
The Filming section has the statement, "V for Vendetta is the final film shot by cinematographer Adrian Biddle, who died of a heart attack on 7 December 2005, 9 months after the movie's world debut.". The citation only states that the movie will be released (ie., in the future) in March. The earliest showing of the movie (at the Butt-Numb-A-Thon) was on 2005-12-11 (4 days after Adrian Biddle's death). In neither case (date mentioned in cited obituary nor the preview showing at the Butt-Numb-A-Thon) was Adrian Biddle's death 9 months after a world debut of the film. — al-Shimoni (talk) 19:45, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
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