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Should…

…contested moves with a participants after the seven-days-period be treated as RMNOMIN? Best, Reading Beans 04:49, 16 September 2024 (UTC)

I assume you mean "with no participants".

Depends what was said in contesting the request.

• If it's just something like "I'm not sure about this given ..." or "There has previously been disagreement about ...", then I wouldn't consider that an objection to the move.
• If the contesting comment indicates disagreement with the move, then it shouldn't be considered unopposed. You could reference the contesting comment in a relisting comment or copy it into the RM.
• In either event, the contesting comment should be taken into account in evaluating (per WP:RMNOMIN) whether the move is consistent with policies, guidelines, and conventions.

SilverLocust 💬 05:16, 16 September 2024 (UTC)

Yes! “No participants”. Thank you for thoughtful response. Best, Reading Beans 08:09, 16 September 2024 (UTC)

Nominate for deletion & then move, or just move?

I nominated Park Sung-hoon for deletion (Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Park Sung-hoon (2nd nomination)) as it is now just a disambiguation page for 1 article; I assumed that the page should be deleted and then Park Sung-hoon (actor) should be moved into its place. But now I'm thinking I should've just skipped the deletion step and just nominated Park Sung-hoon (actor) for a move to Park Sung-hoon and just let the disambiguation page WP:USURPTITLE'd

Do I withdraw the deletion nom (can I?)? Or just let it run its course and then move Park Sung-hoon (actor) when the page is deleted? RachelTensions (talk) 17:18, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

@RachelTensions: Yes, you can withdraw the AfD because nobody has commented yet. I do recommend just requesting a move of Park Sung-hoon (actor) to Park Sung-hoon (while mentioning that the proposed title is a disambiguation page that will be unneeded per WP:ONEOTHER). If moved, the disambiguation page will be dealt with as cleanup. SilverLocust 💬 17:32, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

Either is fine, but I do agree it looks like a withdrawal and further {{db-move}} request will be easier. Primefac (talk) 11:54, 22 September 2024 (UTC)

Was just notified to this discussion existence after I had !vote on the AfD earlier today. Was this closure cum withdrawal allowed when I had already !vote on it? I believe is an procedure infringement, either we uninvolved snow it or let it run the full course. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 13:14, 22 September 2024 (UTC)

sigh. Page deleted per {{db-move}}, because getting too hung up on pedantry is silly. Primefac (talk) 13:51, 22 September 2024 (UTC)

Current Discussions bot needs to do better than copy, wrap, paste

It seems that Misplaced Pages:Requested moves/Current discussions is maintained by a bot that copies everything inside the user's original subst'd {{Requested move}} template, and wraps it all into one paragraph that begins with an asterisk (*), which encodes for a bulleted list entry. Moreover, it appears that upon editing the lead paragraphs of a talk page section created with this template, the bot automatically updates Misplaced Pages:Requested moves/Current discussions. More intelligence is needed. Talk:Sloboda#Requested move 24 August 2024 has a discussion that includes {{hidden}}. Putting this template in a paragraph beginning with asterisk causes four lint errors: two missing end tags for <div> and two stripped tags for </div>. I edited that talk page and inserted a blank line above {{hidden}}, to see what the bot would do. Well, the bot inserted two spaces before {{hidden}}, but the template is still in a paragraph beginning with asterisk, so the four lint errors are still there. Similarly, Template talk:WP LGBTQIA has a discussion that includes {{Not a ballot}}. Putting this template in a paragraph beginning with asterisk causes a multiline table in list lint error. And that's what the bot did. The bot needs more sophistication to avoid creating lint errors in Misplaced Pages:Requested moves/Current discussions.

Also, near the top of Misplaced Pages:Requested moves/Current discussions is the markup

'''This list is also available''' in a ''']''' and in '''].''' nnn discussions have been relisted.''

which has a spurious close italics ('') at the end, which needs to be removed. —Anomalocaris (talk) 00:32, 24 September 2024 (UTC)

P.S. Misplaced Pages:Requested moves/Current discussions no longer includes the discussion on Template talk:WP LGBTQIA, but you can find it in the version of 00:08, 24 September 2024 (UTC), just before that section was removed. —Anomalocaris (talk) 00:41, 24 September 2024 (UTC)

If the hidden note is causing issues, it should be moved from the request itself to the first comment. In general, the request shouldn't be a wall of text. Gonnym (talk) 08:26, 24 September 2024 (UTC)

I concur with this. There are times when it is helpful to add a copy of the signature closer to the top of the request to prevent a wall of text from appearing here. Dekimasuよ! 09:20, 24 September 2024 (UTC)

Heh, the point of using {{hidden}} was to not make it a wall of text :)

Please update the software and/or the instructions if people filing RMs should do something differently in the future, I don't recall ever seeing any warnings against the use of the hidden template there. --Joy (talk) 15:17, 24 September 2024 (UTC)

My original proposal was to modify the bot to avoid picking up templates that shouldn't be bulleted. That still might be worth doing, but it seems that we should also ask users to avoid using templates that shouldn't be bulleted. Template:Requested move/doc#Specified new name includes the bulleted item "Why ... = your rationale for the proposed page name change, ideally referring to applicable naming convention policies and guidelines, and providing evidence in support where appropriate". We could put, right below that, a two-asterisk indented bullet something like, "Please do not include templates that expand to tables, such as nav templates or {{Not a ballot}}, and also avoid collapse templates such as {{collapse}} and {{hidden}}." Comments? —Anomalocaris (talk) 22:42, 24 September 2024 (UTC)

Yep, that sounds like an improvement over the current phrasing. And obviously saying something like "Please post any such extra information afterwards, as a comment." after that. --Joy (talk) 08:51, 25 September 2024 (UTC)

 Done —Anomalocaris (talk) 06:23, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

I enhanced the bot in October 2023 to support {{collapse top}} & {{collapse bottom}}. – wbm1058 (talk) 17:37, 25 September 2024 (UTC)

wbm1058: Could you add support for {{hidden}}? Is there a systematic way to support the whole family of collapse templates? —Anomalocaris (talk) 19:34, 25 September 2024 (UTC)

It took me a while to realize that though the {{hidden}} problem was only reported here yesterday, it was created a month ago. Was it really "hidden" for that long, before anybody noticed any problem? Of course, that means this discussion, which generally is only supposed to run a week, has been open for over a month, too. – wbm1058 (talk) 22:34, 25 September 2024 (UTC)

Yes, in the grand scheme of things it would actually be more helpful if more people read the Sloboda discussion and said "yeah the medieval settlement type is what we really want everyone to read first" or "yeah the English reader doesn't know this term, it's really ambiguous" and we get over it sooner rather than later :D --Joy (talk) 09:58, 26 September 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 October 2024

This edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request.

Please move Tzemile Giousouf article to previous title Cemile Giousouf 194.219.206.56 (talk) 01:39, 5 October 2024 (UTC)

 Done. In the future, please make these requests on the "Project page". Click on "Edit" next to "Requests to revert undiscussed moves" where you will see instructions on how to request the move. Station1 (talk) 02:42, 5 October 2024 (UTC)

but the page is not open for ip 188.4.251.27 (talk) 17:36, 5 October 2024 (UTC)

Do not click on Edit at the top of the page or the top of the section. They are semi-protected. Click only on the Edit link next to "Requests to revert undiscussed moves". Let me know if you still have problems if you do that. Station1 (talk) 18:02, 5 October 2024 (UTC)

Severance Hall

There have been three RMs on the article about a move to Severance Music Center (currently a redirect). I initiated the first two, but had no idea about the third until recently. All three were closed with a maximum of two oppose votes, both of them by either EurekaLott or Necrothesp, and two only have one oppose, by the latter. I was going to relist this, but that would make three of four that I started, so I decided to put my comments here before doing so. I didn't use WP:MR because all three closers have been different editors. As to RSs, I believe that the last RM, again the one that I didn't start, has an adequate amount of them as examples. I encourage the two opposing voters to comment here. Mapsax (talk) 00:54, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

Why aren't my requests working?

I've been trying to do a WP:RM, but whenever I do, it doesn't work properly. Do you know why? GilaMonster536 (talk) 18:04, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

For starters, you have placed it in a comment section. I will move it for you. The Banner talk 18:39, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

Thanks GilaMonster536 (talk) 18:42, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

For some reason, it's still not in the correct format. GilaMonster536 (talk) 18:44, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

There was also an unclosed link in the request (

Move the "Santería" page to the official name of the religion "Regla de Ocha"

Santeria can be considered a derogatory term and the religion, as it exists in the Cuba and throughout the diaspora, is known as "Regla de Ocha". I believe the page should be moved to "Regla de Ocha" with a redirect in place from Santería > Regla de Ocha. I'm happy to volunteer editing the page to reflect the proper name of the religion once that is done.

Also, there are several misnomers, incorrect statements and "beware of the boogeyman" tactics currently in use on the Santería page. All of this stems, first, from the name being incorrect for the page, so why not show some respect to the members of the religion, worldwide, by migrating the page correctly? Vxla (talk) 19:39, 11 October 2024 (UTC)

 Not done This is a talk page for discussing the process described at Misplaced Pages:Requested moves. To propose a specific title change, please follow the instructions found at Misplaced Pages:Requested moves/Controversial and initiate discussion on the talk page of the article you would like to move. Dekimasuよ! 03:11, 12 October 2024 (UTC)

Re the clerking bot

I mentioned a long(ish) time ago about creating a clerking bot, and I am working on it, but I was wondering your thoughts on what the responses from the bot should be for the different occasions. Zippybonzo | talk | contribs (they/them) 17:43, 14 October 2024 (UTC)

What would this bot be clerking? Primefac (talk) 11:51, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

@Primefac completely forgot to mention what the bot would do, but it was discussed a few months ago to clerk WP:RMTR, remove requests after they are moved, and move requests to the admin needed section if the pages are protected. Zippybonzo | talk | contribs (they/them) 12:42, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

Link: Misplaced Pages talk:Requested moves/Archive 35#Bot to clerk RM/TR – DreamRimmer (talk) 14:08, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

Requested move 15 October 2024

It has been proposed in this section that Misplaced Pages:Requested moves be renamed and moved to Misplaced Pages:Requested name changes. A bot will list this discussion on the requested moves current discussions subpage within an hour of this tag being placed. The discussion may be closed 7 days after being opened, if consensus has been reached (see the closing instructions). Please base arguments on article title policy, and keep discussion succinct and civil. Please use {{subst:requested move}}. Do not use {{requested move/dated}} directly. Links: current log • target log • direct move

Misplaced Pages:Requested moves → Misplaced Pages:Requested name changes – Misplaced Pages:Requested name changes is a much better and more clear name as you are requesting the name of the page be changed.139.104.3.56 (talk) 02:08, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

Oppose. Name is a very complicated thing, it is not clear. “URL” or “title” would be more precise. The proposed is less concise and would break a very long and stable tradition.

IPs should not be editing project space. WP:Register for better protections and anonymity. If you have an account, you are violating WP:SOCK by editing projectspace while logged out.

- SmokeyJoe (talk) 02:35, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

Support you are changing the article name 139.104.3.107 (talk) 02:44, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

Support 12.172.251.103 (talk) 01:30, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

Strong Support WP:snow 173.72.3.160 (talk) 03:22, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

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