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Again, welcome! Alex Bakharev 00:12, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Vladimir Putin, Quotations

Hello, Biophys. I've removed one of your contribs and moved other (see history). But it's mostly technical, i.e. your work is appreciated. I've noticed some of your interest to Quotations -- let's work together to improve them. The thing is, the majority of the section was contributed once by me, and there was no one pro or contra voice. I would give B for the section, but not more. It still needs a large work of adding, removing, and refining. And, again, your work is valued. Remember one of basic principles of Misplaced Pages, be bold! Thank you. ellol 13:32, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

You might be interested...

I noticed your interests that you stated on your user page, and I just thought that you might be interested in the Molecular and Cellular Biology Wikiproject. If you like, drop by. I think that you may find it interesting. Cheers! – ClockworkSoul 20:57, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

• Welcome. :) – ClockworkSoul 07:01, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Non-postulated relativity

Hi Biophys, I don't have the impression that his approach is really original. You may see that as a negative remark, but for Misplaced Pages it can actually work out positive, as such an approach (which I would call "Lorentzian") that was shared by a number of notable, even "authoritive" physicists is certainly more notable (= encyclopedic) than that of one physicist who is unknown in the west.

Thus it may be worth writing a slightly more general article about it, if a respected journal article or book can be found that already discusses the subject (in order to avoid WP:OR). Possibly either "Lorentzian relativity" or "Physical relativity" could be sufficiently general as well as notable topics to which that book belongs. But probably you'd need help from other editors to make such a new article live up to its scope... Harald88 21:15, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Regards, Harald88 21:15, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

If it's simply a new way of teaching SR, then there are two ways it could be included in Misplaced Pages:

1. It was a notable minority viewpoint among teachers of SR.
2. Our editors thought the pedagogical approach would be useful for our readers, and found it not to have any major philisophical differences from ordinary SR teaching.

Is either of these things true? -- SCZenz 17:41, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

I can answer for Biophys (Biophys where are you?).

Point 1: Yes, that is verified to be factual (Lorentz, Poincare, Langevin and several other teachers as well as a number of notable experimantal physicists such as Ives)

Point 2: Not clear what you mean. People such as Bell and of course the above Russian author, if I understand well, emphasized the pedagogical usefulness of the physical interpretation that we inherited from the stationary ether model, even if we don't explicitly use it.

Regards, Harald88 23:23, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

This month's winner is proteasome!

– ClockworkSoul 22:07, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Albumin

I was wondering if I might pick your brain? Yesterday you wrote in peripheral membrane protein that albumin can associate with lipid bilayers under certain experimental conditions in vitro. May I ask what conditions those might be, and what your source is? I ask because this behavior may be interfering with a set of experiments that I'm trying to perform. Many thanks! – ClockworkSoul 17:07, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! – ClockworkSoul 03:12, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Peripheral membrane protein

Did you notice that this article has been nominated for the MCB Collaboration of the Month? I see you've been putting alot of work into it, so you might want to add your vote to the stack: it's currently one of the front runners to be next month's collaboration. – ClockworkSoul 18:39, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Nikolay Khokhlov

Hi, Biophys: You left a note on the talk page of the defector Kokhlov and it is entirely possible that someone is pulling your chain. :::Parapsychology::: is the pseudo-science of the supernatural, especially ghosts and demons. Its possible that the U.S. government does study that sort of thing, but it isn't likely that a Soviet defector would be employed in such a potentially sensitive and embarrassing project. It is, however, quite likely that his wife and children may have spent time in gulag. V. Joe 15:42, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Russian history

Hi, i am historian, tell me more, what you specialize in, i love your edit on beria, i think we need to improve on some other bios too, can i send you suggestions? Nov 20

Yuri Shchekochikhin and Sergei Yushenkov

Hi, thank you for your hard work in developing Yuri Shchekochikhin and Sergei Yushenkov. If we can get them to a really good condition within five days, I am thinking of nominating one or both of these to appear on the Misplaced Pages front page in the "Did you know?" column of newest articles. Let me know if you have any suggestions for a good "Did you know" phrase for the page. Best wishes, Dryman 21:16, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Biophys, thanks for your further edits. I have nominated the articles, I think they are in good shape and should have a good chance at being on the front page this week! If you think of any other important facts feel free to add them. It might also help to make a short stub article for Liberal Russia with anything you know about it. I have read that Yushenkov was assassinated just hours after registering Liberal Russia in the 2003 Duma elections , if this is true I think it's a very striking coincidence. Dryman 19:10, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

On November 29, 2006, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Yuri Shchekochikhin, which you created. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

On November 29, 2006, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Sergei Yushenkov, which you created. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Well done Biophys. Top work, a double strike. Dryman was the kind nominator. Feel free to self-nominate, as the vast majority of entries are such. Thanks again, Blnguyen (bananabucket) 07:24, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Re:Alexander Litvinenko

Okay. You want to take a look at it and cleanup and stuff? Maybe it will be more effective that way? I'm not too familiar with the whole apartment bombing thing. Nishkid64 02:18, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Galina Starovoitova

Ok, I'll try to take a look at it today. Dryman 18:05, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

RE:Communism and Nazism

One interesting point I found there is that Soviet occupiers in East Europe were actually worse than Nazi occupiers. - Indeed, the Baltic States suffered considerably more from Communist repressions than under Nazi rule (Estonia/Latvia lost about 1/4 of population during the WW2 - mostly due to Communism). Hence the alleged pro-Nazi tendencies (?!) there. The number of victims of Communism of course exceeds that of Nazism , since Nazism was obvious evil and was quickly defeated, but commies managed to hold power for 70 yrs. Constanz - Talk 08:40, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Suvorov on Berlin wall

Hi, I added Suvorov's citation on the wall & communism here. If you happen to take interest in it, you might improve the translation. The original text is here .Constanz - Talk 11:54, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

This month's winner is RNA interference!

Re:83.236.12.38

I think it was a good faith effort, but I reverted the user's massive changes. I'm leaving a note on his/her talk page about their edit. Nishkid64 20:41, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Question

I'm hoping that with your experitise in membrane proteins you might be able to help me with this one. My lab is working with a peripheral protein that we believe binds to the external side of the cell membrane by adhesion to mannan, and in order to investigate the possibility I would like to enzymatically digest the extracellular mannan from immobilized cells, but I can't seem to find an enzyme that preferentially digests mannan in literature or the Sigma catalogue. Would you happen to know anything offhand that I might be able to use? Many thanks in advance. – ClockworkSoul 17:33, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

C2 domain

Hello! A bot caught your creation of C2 domain as a possible copyvio from here. Usually, we delete them under a general speedy criteria (G12), but in this case it is not entirely clear. In the terms of use the site claims the database is public for any purpose. Can you confirm this is right, and information copied from such database is not copyvio? You can either reply at my talk page or at Misplaced Pages:Suspected copyright violations, as I will leave the entry listed there until this is confirmed. Thanks in advance. -- ReyBrujo 04:27, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Glad to hear it was a false positive. As User:Wherebot is likely to catch new additions if they are copied, could you please add a note in their talk pages either pointing to the WikiProject discussion, or to the C2 domain precedent? It will make things easier for us to remove them from the copyvio list as soon as they appear. Thanks again! -- ReyBrujo 05:08, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Allow me

Re: C2 domain, Pfam/Interpro summaries, and copyright

Sorry for the long response time (I was on wikibreak).

As Misplaced Pages is under the GFDL, and not the GPL, I am not sure if we can use their summaries. What do you think of the matter?

-- Where 00:31, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Novartis/GNF has contacted us to talk about collaboration and importing data. This could fit well with your use of Pfam. The talk page is here. Thanks. TimVickers 19:44, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

You're right. If they gave permission, then it is fine. I was under the impression from the letter posted on the talk page that they only gave permission provided derivative works were distributed under the GPL though? I'm not sure. If you think you have permission, I will add the links to Wherebot's ignore list. -- Where 15:51, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Putin-chan's poem

Sorry about the usage of "Putin-chan," as it is a joke between me and a friend--kind of a slip of the mind. I am not really sure if a satirical poem on Putin is appropriate. I would have to say it isn't that absurd when it comes to how Putin is perceived in Russian media, but I don't believe it is acceptable for the article. My suggestion is to remove it, and ask in the talk page what other people's thoughts are. :: Colin Keigher (Talk) 03:17, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Your edits

Your edits in Active Measures and disinformation are of polar quality. While the fist one is based on solid sources, the edits of the second one are your quite dubious interpretations and shaky sources. While you have some points there, I will come to it later. Meanwhile you please find sources for your two changes in disinformation in the intro and about propaganda. Why would you want to compare it with "propaganda" anyway? `'mikka 02:53, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

See disinformation talk page. I used another Encyclopedia as source. It has been compared already with "propaganda" prior to my edit.Biophys

Re: Vandalism

I define spam as deliberately saturating Misplaced Pages entries with links from a particular source(s). You are clearly guilty of this. On the one hand, one may do this to a moderate degree if the intent is to provide sources for an article, but when it amounts to essentially "selling" a writer, a website, a book, etc., then it's spam. A good number of the books you listed in the Terrorism "Further Reading" section are irrelevant to the topic. Robert Spencer writes about terrorism, but that issue is not specific to all of his books. You simply decided to list a bibliography of books which share your view on the causes of terrorism, whether or not those books even relate to the issue. In the Emerson article, you shamelessly plugged in a FrontPageMag link. Misplaced Pages is an encyclopedia, not a forum to propagate your views.

Also, don't "warn" me. You're not an administrator. Don't pretend to be some concerned neutral arbitrator. You are not.--Kitrus 08:59, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

This month's MCB Collaboration of the Month article is Peripheral membrane protein!

– ClockworkSoul 18:48, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Adding to Category:Integral membrane proteins

When you add article to this category make sure this category isn't a subcategory of another category the article belongs to - for an example some of the articles are already in the category Category:Proteins, so when you add the same article to Category:Integral membrane proteins, which is subcategory of Category:Proteins down the category tree, things get a little redundant. What you need to do is to remove the parent category. -- Boris 05:45, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Thank you! I will do it. Biophys 06:16, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

AfD Nomination: La Russophob

An editor has nominated the article La Russophob for deletion, under the Articles for deletion process. We appreciate your contributions, but the nominator doesn't believe it satisfies Misplaced Pages's criteria for inclusion, and has explained why in the nomination (also see What Misplaced Pages is not and Deletion policy). Your opinions on why the topic of the article meets inclusion criteria and what should be done with the article are welcome: participate in the discussion by editing Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/La Russophob. Add four tildes like this ˜˜˜˜ to sign your comments. You can also edit the article La Russophob during the discussion, but do not remove the "Articles for Deletion" template (the box at the top of the article), this will not end the deletion debate. Jayden54Bot 13:43, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

• Hello! I'd just like to emphasize that you can add to the article during the deletion debate, especially if you think you can add independant sourcing. Abu-Fool Danyal ibn Amir al-Makhiri 17:29, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

MscL

Hello,

I saw your MscL article and i would like to ask you, please, write something about MscS too, and TREK, TRAAK etc! Please, please, please!!!

Shchekochikhin

As you seem interested in his biography, could you please take a look at Three Whales Corruption Scandal and edit it if necessary? I feel unable to deal with lengthy articles now. Colchicum 18:43, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

O'K, I will take a look. But you know this subject much better than me. Biophys

Misplaced Pages:Requests for comment/Vlad fedorov

I have filed a request concerning Vlad Fedorov's conduct. You could take part in the discussion at Misplaced Pages:Requests for comment/Vlad fedorov. Colchicum 14:46, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the information. I will wait a little and see what happens before making a comment.Ultramarine 17:26, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

RFC/USER discussion concerning you (Hodja Nasreddin)

Hello, Hodja Nasreddin. Please be aware that a request for comments has been filed concerning your conduct on Misplaced Pages. The RFC entry can be found by your name in this list, and the actual discussion can be found at Misplaced Pages:Requests for comment/Hodja Nasreddin, where you may want to participate. -- Vlad fedorov 19:03, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

I would like to notify you that my request for comment on your stalking and harrassing behaviour was signed by Ellol.Vlad fedorov 22:15, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

I could not help but notice

that your Vladimir Putin =====> "national phallus" addition to the phallus article has been removed. This is the second time the same posting has been removed, both times by the same editor, User:Alex Bakharev. Carptrash 02:16, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Mediation Comment

Comments have been made on the mediation page between you and Vlad fedorov at Misplaced Pages:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2007-02-10 Boris Stomakhin. Diez2 16:19, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

What was that all about?!

Seems like you are the creator of 'Category:Victims of Russian political repressions'.Ok,I have only one question.What were you looking at?Check that category.Firstly,the demise of Dudayev can not be considered a 'political repression' because he wasn't a dissident,he was a warlord and a self-proclaimed President.Oh,and he was blown up during a war(xasualties always happen during wars).You can also find Litvinenko,Yushenkov,Yandarbiyev (note:the Kremlin's involvment in their deaths has not been proven).I'm surprised I didn't see Politkovskaya in that category.Until the Kremlin's involvment gets proven they canot be considered "victims of Russian political repressions".Dimts 20:45, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

WP:CIV

Please be cool and civil when the editorial conflict gets hot. Calling your opponents names never helped to anyone. This was over the top. Happy editing Alex Bakharev 05:14, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

First, how can you call this "personal attack" if I did not name any specific "person" in my message? Second, I think that wikistalking case is obvious and proven, as follows from these comments: Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_comment/Vlad_fedorov#New_episodes_of_wikistalking_by_Vlad Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_comment/Vlad_fedorov#Statement_of_the_dispute. This is not the case of good faith editing when negotiations can help. This can only go to mediation and arbitration. Biophys 15:27, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Enemy of Islam

Hi, my dear friend,

Please pay attention to the sources of this article. I put comment in Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Enemy of Islam and described my reasons and you can find more in Talk:Enemy of Islam about the sources.--Sa.vakilian(t-c) 05:41, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

O'K, maybe I was wrong. I have changed my vote.Biophys 03:33, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Internet Trolls

Hey. Good job with "trolls v2.0." Much better than before. As for removing my comments, I thank you for that, since that was dumb on my part. Hopefully you got my last message, and since what You Know Who said, it's possible that there's a double account. CPTGbr 03:13, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Agree.Biophys 03:31, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

I saw that the article was deleted, and it was the worst possible scenario. Go with my first suggestion, or just repost the article at a later date if you have it archived on your computer. CPTGbr 02:51, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

No problem. I have the copy. But I have to think how to improve the article, make a better title (probably no "trolls"); maybe the subject should be a little bit different. It will take some time.Biophys 03:08, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Hey, I believe the vote against the Troll thing was canvassed by a certain someone. http://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:Vlad_fedorov#Thanks . I myself am pretty disgusted. CPTGbr 18:18, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Re: Police Squad

The Censorship in China is much different than the police squad. I suggest you look at it.

Yes, I have looked. Yes, it is different, since the Chinese government prefers to simply block the unwanted web sites. However, they also seem to have "squads" that play a role of political police in the Internet and harass blogers, much like their colleagues in Russia. Biophys 19:21, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Re: the other user... file an RFC attempt either on the article or the user in question. Or ask for third opinion. - Penwhale | 19:07, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

I did. That did not help: Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_comment/Vlad_fedorov Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_comment/Vlad_fedorov Biophys 19:21, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Take it to mediation then. - Penwhale | 19:57, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

WP:AIV report

Hi there. I deleted your report there as there were no specific instances cited against that user, apart from mentioning a few articles. I note from the editor in question's talk page that he wasn't warned about his transgressions. Recommend trying to dialog with that user if he's engaging in vandalism/revert-warring/3rr or whatever. Right now, I can't see any issues - Alison 03:45, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Therefore that user has made personal attack on me.Vlad fedorov 05:18, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Not quite so fast. You made a number of very questionable edits so far. You are involved in what looks like revert warring on a number of different articles while making disparaging comments in your edit history. Please work to resolve your differences with other editors rather than blindly reverting to your version. If you do that too many times, you will be blocked for WP:3RR violations - Alison 05:41, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Stop your uncivil behaviour and personal attacks.

Please stop your uncivil behavior and personal attacks. Your naming of me as "vandal" is over the top.Vlad fedorov 05:17, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Boris Stomakhin

My apologies. I did not know there was a mediation case open on this article. It looks like mediation has stalled somewhat--perhaps you could kick-start it. Meanwhile I have re-protected the page for another 2 weeks. Please let me know if a longer protection period is required. Cheers, Fang Aili 21:22, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

You could start a Boris Stomakhin/Temp, but I don't know if that would be a waste of time or not. --Fang Aili 13:38, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

internet police squads

Very interestiing topic. I am quite sure that Russian secret services take this issue very seriously, even with paranoia. I don't have any sources, but I a have a similr experience, on a related issue. In early 1980s I was approached by KGB to make for them an expert's conclusion of the possibility that the computer viruses are in fact warfare of the West agains the Soviet Union. When I demonstrated them that viruses do immensely more economical harm in the West than to Soviets, after some thinking the KGB "experts" reformulated the question: is it possible that the computers the Soviet Union buys in the West are "pre-loaded" with software or microchips that may be activated by computer viruses to do some spywork. Later KGB elaborated the idea of "computer polygons", where a PC from the West would be placed into a mock network with simulated activity that may be of inrerest for Western spies, and all the transmissions (network, radio, UV, etc) of the suspect PC were to be monitored to "catch the spy" and figure out how it does this. I bet that good money was allocated for this. Unfortunately, when all this started I got a chance to work abroad, so I don't know how it ended. But I am sure that this kind of ideas didn't die, and with the proliferation of internet they got a new life. Good luck, `'mikka 18:47, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Thank you! Could you help with any reliable sources on this subject?Biophys 14:38, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Try fsb.ru. Don't know if it speaks much about the subject, but at least it is reliable source. ellol 05:21, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Re: Beslan memorial

I have clarified my closing decision on the AFD subpage. If you disagree with my decision, I encourage you to open up a decision at Deletion Review which is designed to deal with disagreements such as this one. (ESkog) 17:34, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

AfD for Internet brigades

I have nominated your article Internet brigades for deletion, because it contains original research, misattribution, false translations, and is a POV fork of previously deletd article.Vlad fedorov 05:34, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Though a supporter of the article, I think that the best course about Internet brigades is to build up articles about the individual incidents, get at least one non-Russian source for each, and not all out of the same book, and be prepared to srongly defend them. Then, in another 6 months with a few dozen solid articles and their sources, to try again.DGG 08:24, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

I do not think there is enough material here for several articles. One needs to consider a wider subject (e.g. "disinformation by Russian secret services" or "active measures on-line") to make several articles. But I would need some help and advice from other editors to do this job.Biophys 13:56, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

re: Could you give me a piece of advice?

Dear Fang Aili, could you please take a look at my struggle with User:Vlad fedorov. In my opinion, he repeatedly vandalizes articles GRU, Human rights in Russia‎, Nikolai Koltsov, Persecution of political bloggers, Grigory Svirsky, and Active measures. He deletes large fragments of text supported by reliale references, without discussing anything. He does not recognize any sources, even such as Nature Reviews Genetics (in article Nikolai Koltsov). I warned him twice about his alleged vandalism, but he deleted my comments from his talk page. User:Colchicum and me made a request for comments about him, but this did not help:Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_comment/Vlad_fedorov and Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_comment/Vlad_fedorov#New_episodes_of_wikistalking_by_Vlad . What would you recommend? I would highly appreciate your advice.Biophys 03:00, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure what to tell you. I don't do a lot of conflict resolution (of other people's conflicts, that is). There is already a mediation case open involving you and Vlad (Misplaced Pages:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2007-02-10 Boris Stomakhin), as well as the RfC. From looking over various links, it looks like both you and Vlad have certain opinions and are unwilling to compromise. One or both of you will need to step away from the articles in question, or continue until you are both blocked for 3RR. On Misplaced Pages, like life in general, you're going to run into people with whom you disagree and have no hope of compromise. Just let it go. Have a look at this essay, go outside, listen to the birds sing, and go on with life. This is the best advice I can give you. --Fang Aili 14:30, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Thank you.Biophys 15:11, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Unasked, let me also advise you, the same as Fang Aili did. Ignore personal attacks and work for a really solid article. please take a look at what I did with my edits on Internet brigades--I deliberately only went part way. Its the only way to compromise enough to keep a meaningful article. When you really disagree, its usually better to wait until the other guy makes a number of edits rather than jumping on each one. DGG 06:02, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Thank you. As you can see, my English is not good enough, and yes, I do have a bias that comes from my personal experience. So, I would certainly appreciate your help with regard to this article and my other edits.Biophys 13:50, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Interesting tool

Use Google Print: .-- _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk}  16:23, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Thank you. I will try.Biophys 17:31, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Do you want some scholarly sources on Russian disinformatsia, active measures and propaganda?

Biophys, I found your article on Internet Brigades via slashdot. Mate, your article on this form of propaganda is a brilliant synthesis. I can name several excellent sources on past Russian active measures, propaganda and disinformatsia that correspond exactly with the phenomenon you have described here. See here for most of the sources: http://intellit.muskingum.edu/russia_folder/russiad%26d_folder/russiadis%26dectoc.html In particular you might want to look up the works of 'Dezinformatsia:The strategy of Soviet Disinformation' by Richard H Schultz and Roy Godson (Two highly regarded intelligence scholars). Ladislav Bittman's books 'The KGB and Soviet Disinformation: An insiders view' and 'The Deception Game'. Also see 'The New Image Makers: Soviet Propaganda and Disinformation Today' which is edited by Bittman and contains several scholarly articles by intelligence experts. Two other books which you might want to check out are 'Double Lives: Stalin, Willi Munzenberg and seduction of the intellectuals' by Stephen Koch and 'New Lies for Old: The communist strategy of deception and disinformation' by Anatoliy Golitsyn. These books are 10-20 years old. They don't describe current dezinformatsia operations but Godson and Schultz believe the same active measures infrastructure is there. So the Russians have probably kept the framework, they've just evolved the way the execute the operations. Which is historically how the Russians evolved their disinformation campaigns i.e they were always looking for new ways to propagate the disinfo and propaganda (see part three, especially chapter 9 'Soviet Manipulation of "Religious Circles" by J.A. Emerson Vermaat which describes how soviets moved to targeting international religious movements leading up to and beyond glasnost, which is part of 'The new image makers'). If you have any specific questions for research that might help you shoot me a list of questions here and I'll try help you out with the answers (plus with sources). I have all the books listed above a fair few other texts that might be helpful. Evud 11:45, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks a lot! Unfortunately, I do not have these books with me and busy at work. Could you prepare some suggestions or text supported by references for inserting them in the article? Or you can go there and edit the article yourself. Most of these books are rather old and do not describe anything about secret services on-line activities. Biophys 17:12, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

I soon may be blocked by administrators

I soon may be blocked: See what happened. I only asked a question at the noticeboard:

Can someone take a look here: ? User:Vlad fedorov wrongly blamed me in intentional falsification many times. Is that an uncivil behavior? Is any administrator intervention required?Biophys 19:39, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

• Please also see here, as well as checking Vlad's talkpage history. This guy has been repeatedly warrned for WP:CIVIL already but talk page / archives doesn't show it - Alison 19:47, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

You also may take a look here: Biophys 19:51, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Point of interest, Vlad and Biophys are attacking each other back and forth all over wikipedia. It's about time to block both of them, Biophys for repeatedly using Misplaced Pages as a soapbox to attack Putin and people who support him, and Vlad for incivility and personal attacks, and WP:POINT violations against Biophys. I also should note that the Internet brigades page is a recreation of an attack page aimed at Vlad, previously internet troll squads or something similar. I'm sick of this issue coming up. It's time we block both of them. ⇒ SWATJester 20:33, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Comment on your point (sorry this is coming late). That article internet troll squads never mentioned any administrators or users, nor did it name any sites. It only stemmed from an argument on talk pages. Every time I make this comment, it is either "taken out and preserved" or deleted. You can go to the internet troll squads page to see what I mean. Either way, I personally believe that you are crossing the line and being unfair to Biophys (for that matter, you don't even cite where in the article Biophys accuses users/admins of being government workers). CPTGbr 02:11, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

• I'll endorse that, but not indef. This has been the subject of at least one RfC, a flamewar on my talk page and hostile comments on a lot of article talk pages. It is going nowhere and various people have attempted mediation at this point - Alison 20:36, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

You said "Biophys for repeatedly using Misplaced Pages as a soapbox to attack Putin and people who support him". Well, I just checked my edits using this tool: . I have almost zero edits about "Putin and people who support him". I edited only Valentin Korabelnikov among Putin's supporters. I wrote mostly about: (a) biology; (b) human rights issues; (c) Russian opposition (dissidents); and (d) organizations such as FSB. This has nothing to do with soapbox; everything is well referenced. Please check.Biophys 20:53, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

See - some people do not think I am doing good job in Misplaced Pages. Well, I certainly tried to do my best. If I am blocked, please send me e-mail.Biophys 23:00, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Biophys, I just left a note at the ANI thread in question. I assure you that you won't be blocked. I have lately advised Vlad as well at his talk to cool it a little. It is easier said than done, but still better try than just allow this to escalate. Please feel free to read what I told Vlad at his talk as much of this could be a useful advise for you as well. You may want to try diversifying your contributions too. --Irpen 23:51, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Thank you. Good advice. In fact, I would like to stop creating any new articles on "hot" Russian topics as soon as Vlad stops deleting my writings supported by sources.Biophys 03:24, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Don't worry, admins don't block on request, but review the facts and decide on the best course of action to take. The purpose of a block is to prevent disruption, rather than to punish. Your suggestion above is probably not a bad one - Misplaced Pages honestly isn't worth the amount of personal stress that gets generated from fighting with other users and it's sometimes better to walk away from 1 article if you can improve 25 others. Probably better to just come back to them after a while - most likely other users will have fixed any damage if there is any. Orderinchaos 06:56, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Thank you! I understand so well your point about disruption because Vlad enormosly disrupted may work in wikipedia. Of course, my "discussions" with him have nothing to do with improvement of articles and productive work (I disagree here with Alex Bakharev). Yes, this is stressful. So, I will try to step aside for a while and do something else.Biophys 15:25, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, I could not follow your advice because you voted to delete my article without any reasonable explanation.Biophys 23:23, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Some rhymes

xxx

Теплый вечер холодного дня.
Ветер, оттепель, пенье сирены.
Не дразни меня, хватит с меня,
Мы видали твои перемены!
Не смущай меня, оттепель. Не
Обольщай поворотами к лету.
Я родился в холодной стране.
Честь мала, но не трогай хоть эту.

Только трус не любил никогда
Этой пасмурной, брезжущей хмури,
Голых веток и голого льда,
Голой правды о собственной шкуре.
Я сбегу в этот холод. Зане
От соблазнов, грозящих устоям,
Мы укроемся в русской зиме:
Здесь мы стоим того, чего стоим.

Вот пространство, где всякий живой,
Словно в пику пустому простору,
Обрастает тройной кожурой,
Обращается в малую спору.
Ненавижу осеннюю дрожь
На границе надежды и стужи:
Не буди меня больше. Не трожь.
Сделай так, чтобы не было хуже.

Там, где вечный январь на дворе,
Лед по улицам, шапки по крышам,
Там мы выживем, в тесной норе,
И тепла себе сами надышим.
Как берлогу, поземку, пургу
Не любить нашей северной музе?
Дети будут играть на снегу,
Ибо детство со смертью в союзе.

Здравствуй, Родина! В дали твоей
Лучше сгинуть как можно бесследней.
Приюти меня здесь. Обогрей
Стужей гибельной, правдой последней.
Ненавистник когдатошний твой,
Сын отверженный, враг благодарный, –
Только этому верю: родной
Тьме египетской, ночи полярной.

Dmitry Bykov , ~1998

ellol 18:02, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Ellol, I would like to stop creating new articles on "hot" Russian topics as soon as Vlad (or others like him) stop deleting my writings supported by sources and violate the existing status quo (as for example Stomakhin article that is pretty much NPOV right now). Biophys 18:39, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Biophys, in fact I have no influence on Vlad, just like he can exert no influence on me. Believe it or not, our cooperation or whatever you call it was spontaneous although not casual. However I'll retire from political talks, at least for a while. It's only a waste of time. I've heard in political forums phrases like "If they try to repeat orange revolution in Russia, I myself will take a crow-bar, call my friends and we will protect constitutional order." However, I believe now that the strain between "liberals" and "patriots" will never surge at the level of a civil war, at least the last actions of authorities show that Russian power can protect itself well, and no participation of me is in fact needed.

As for Vlad, try to find common language with him. Perhaps you should find some form of consensus or allow different POVs in an article, notifying for each whose POV it is and not making seeming preferences towards each. It must be not really hard. ellol 05:46, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

As you can see, Vlad started doing the same. Fine. This time, I would rather create a couple of new articles.Biophys

Biophys, my biggest problem with you is that you deny insertions of any other POV's that have different opinion or present alternative opinion. Should you allow opinion of others to be added to your articles - there would be no problem. I understand, believe me, that you hate Russia, you have a right to it. But you don't have right to silence your opponents. All I want - is just to make place for different opinions in the articles. Please remember, that I have never deleted statements of Stomakhin defenders (although I may have been refining them and adding other information). But it was you who completely deleted any information (even official) about Stomakhin deeds. You have inserted tremendous number of false allegations against Russia, such as "evidence" of Alexey Galkin, who was forced to voice "evidence" before the camera under tortures. Such as your false description of Magomed Kakiev and Sulim Yamadayev as GRU officers - which turned out to be false just by reading the source you cited in support of your false text. Now you delete any information which is against Mr. Shaw who lied about Russian presence in Iraq, just to help candidate Bush at the elections. You systematically eradicate pertinent information supported by reliable source that goes against you personal POV. That is the problem with you. You may hate Russia for KGB and other dirty facts, but there is no a single countryin the world being good or decent. And you employ the same approach as these not decent people or organizations or countries and, in fact, you are not different from them in your systematic crusade. I could publish a lot of anti-US rubbish (use of white phosphorus, Abu-Graib, tortures, systematic killing of civilians, financing of friendly terrorists against Iran, financing Iraq chemical weapons program during Iran-Iraq war) but it's disgusting for me. And, look, just as a man who lived, who went to school and university while being abroad of Russia, who was almost born in the West, I could say to you that your hate of Russia wouldn't promote you in either american, or any other western society. Instead, no one would trust you, because, as Alexander, The Great, said the one who betrayed once, would betray again. Just think about it. Some children (who contribute to computer games articles) supporting your position at AfD of Internet brigades and our Polish "friends" who contribute to strong anti-russian articles may betray the reality. Vlad fedorov 10:41, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, but you got it wrong. Putin, FSB and OMON are not Russia. But I do not hate FSBists either. As a biologist, I consider them something like alien species, cancer, or Marburg virus. These are very interesting creatures.Biophys 13:54, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

((unblock-auto|1=68.40.61.252|2=Autoblocked because your IP address was recently used by "Biophys". The reason given for Biophys's block is: "continued drama on WP:ANI.".|3=Naconkantari))

Block seems to have expired, so I disabled the relevant autoblocks. Repost if you have problems. – Luna Santin (talk) 01:25, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Eugenics in Showa Japan

Eugenics in Showa Japan is a malignant venomous article on Japan. For instance, National Eugenic Law is a law that permits the artificial abortion for the maternity protection including economical reasons. Please write your detailed policy again. ]--Azukimonaka 15:29, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

3RR violation

You violated 3RR on the Operation Sarinder page. Please revert your last revert or I will report you. Thanks. csloat 03:24, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

So, that is your reply to my suggestion to start collaboration rather than reverts. Biophys 05:35, 23 April 2007 (UTC)