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Please change " In 1920, Joan of Arc was canonized by the Roman Catholic Church" to "In 1920 Joan of Arc was canonized by Pope Benedict XV Jacob2403 (talk) 23:46, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

 Done Wtfiv (talk) 17:18, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

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Why Joan of Arc IS a patron saint, if she lived in XV century? Of course she couldn't survive till nowadays even she wasn't executed, so replace it with WAS. For example, in Jesus article it says WAS a first-century Jewish preacher etc. 128.75.247.99 (talk) 14:28, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

Doesn't the continual veneration of saints confer immortality on them? Isidore the Laborer is the patron saint of farmers, etc. Jesus is no longer a preacher. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:24, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
The present verb tense refers to a current state of relationship. Joan is currently a patron saint of France. If she is removed as patron saint, it would become past tense. This is similar for Jesus: for much of contemporary Christianity, Jesus is the savior. Wtfiv (talk) 17:29, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
Yes. We can still say that Joan was an historical figure. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:38, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
 Not done. See above. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:39, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

Gender and Sexuality of Joan of Arc

Because the gender and sexuality of Joan of Arc are often debated, I was wondering if it would be appropriate to include the categories Category:Historical figures with ambiguous or disputed gender identity and Category:Historical figures with ambiguous or disputed sexuality. This is in no way an opinion for or against these theories, it is simply recognizing that they exist. I added these categories to the article Cross-dressing, gender identity, and sexuality of Joan of Arc. Rylee Amelia (talk) 21:39, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

I'm open to adding the category, the sub-article on the topic definitely illustrates some of the issues and the debate. But, I know that this has been a contentious issue with Joan. There are some editors with strong opinions on the topic, maybe they will weigh in. Wtfiv (talk) 16:38, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
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