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| Fails the ] test. The Jar'Edo Wens article got some news coverage in 2015 but has not been referenced by any sources after its deletion. Doesn't seem to have had any long-term notability after the fact. <span style="color:green">'''Ten Pound Hammer'''</span> • <sup>(])</sup> 23:34, 30 October 2024 (UTC) | Fails the ] test. The Jar'Edo Wens article got some news coverage in 2015 but has not been referenced by any sources after its deletion. Doesn't seem to have had any long-term notability after the fact. <span style="color:green">'''Ten Pound Hammer'''</span> • <sup>(])</sup> 23:34, 30 October 2024 (UTC) | ||
| :Actually '''disagree'''. I've seen coverage of this in surprising places, from the I recently visited in San Francisco (Which has a whole display on it, and I had never heard of it before a few weeks ago when I saw it), to international publications like the italian to scholarly pubs: . Just because this doesn't have as much traction in super online news sources or "ngram" publications doesn't mean it doesn't have longevity. It's just diffuse. Definitely has longevity as a notable Misplaced Pages hoax. — ] <sup>(]</sup> <sup>])</sup> 17:35, 4 November 2024 (UTC) | :Actually '''disagree'''. I've seen coverage of this in surprising places, from the I recently visited in San Francisco (Which has a whole display on it, and I had never heard of it before a few weeks ago when I saw it), to international publications like the italian to scholarly pubs: . Just because this doesn't have as much traction in super online news sources or "ngram" publications doesn't mean it doesn't have longevity. It's just diffuse. Definitely has longevity as a notable Misplaced Pages hoax. — ] <sup>(]</sup> <sup>])</sup> 17:35, 4 November 2024 (UTC) | ||
| :Also FYI, there should probably be a short notice over at ] about this. — ] <sup>(]</sup> <sup>])</sup> 17:37, 4 November 2024 (UTC) | :Also FYI, there should probably be a short notice over at ] about this discussion. — ] <sup>(]</sup> <sup>])</sup> 17:37, 4 November 2024 (UTC) | ||
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Remove image?
Just my two cents, but the first image seems more decorative than anything. At any rate, might as well put the WP home page, a random diff has no specific link with our reliability. — Alien333 (what I did & why I did it wrong) 14:22, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- Agreed, except to say the image in question isn't even decorative! The second image does have that quality in addition to being an appropriate illustration for the article. I say dump the Klee-Irwin.gif (or move it elsewhere in the article if it has some redeeming quality that escapes me) and let the South American coati/Brazilian aardvark lead. Cheers! Captainllama (talk) 16:54, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- I'll go on with it, then, if it's not just me. — Alien333 (what I did & why I did it wrong) 17:43, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- Have either of you actually read it? It doesn't seem so. It is a very extreme example of the removal of damaging facts, replacing them with PR fluff. I will return it; you didn't even put the coati at the top. Johnbod (talk) 00:18, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- An image is supposed to illustrate, not to be read. We might as well replace articles by screenshots of them. And even if we really want an image instead of text pointing out some of the interesting changes, we could at least take a more recent diff, where you actually see easily the changes and you don't have to fish through four paragraphs of text to see the point. — Alien333 (what I did & why I did it wrong) 08:50, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- Agree. The coati is not appropriare title picture. Its a super example but is not a good cover. Imagine with other articles: for example climate change. The cover could be earth or weather, but not one particular insect species going extinct.
- Please: some editors here need to learn how to make things readable, and how to lead a reader from the general to the details. The skill is called "common sense" 2A02:1210:2E1A:500:1DC3:75D:1881:5051 (talk) 10:02, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
- An image is supposed to illustrate, not to be read. We might as well replace articles by screenshots of them. And even if we really want an image instead of text pointing out some of the interesting changes, we could at least take a more recent diff, where you actually see easily the changes and you don't have to fish through four paragraphs of text to see the point. — Alien333 (what I did & why I did it wrong) 08:50, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- Have either of you actually read it? It doesn't seem so. It is a very extreme example of the removal of damaging facts, replacing them with PR fluff. I will return it; you didn't even put the coati at the top. Johnbod (talk) 00:18, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- I'll go on with it, then, if it's not just me. — Alien333 (what I did & why I did it wrong) 17:43, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
Wiki is biased and removes facts
removing facts from a article that was edited with evidence. Wiki does not like certain facts in their articles . That would be suppression of information. Wiki has became a joke and not a reliable source for information 216.252.7.115 (talk) 18:44, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
- What is Wiki? It's not an appropriate abbreviation for Misplaced Pages. HiLo48 (talk) 23:51, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
- Was it a reliable source? Was it related to the article? Did it add anything useful to article? If it was removed, it's probably because the answer to one of those questions was no. Not every little thing needs to be kept. If it doesn't add to the article or isn't from a credible source, it will be removed. The First Spinjitzu Master (talk) 23:40, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
- This seems to be a WP:FORUM contribution, unrelated to improving the article and therefore deletable. --Hob Gadling (talk) 10:40, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
Proposed merge of Jar'Edo Wens hoax into Reliability of Misplaced Pages
Fails the WP:SUSTAINED test. The Jar'Edo Wens article got some news coverage in 2015 but has not been referenced by any sources after its deletion. Doesn't seem to have had any long-term notability after the fact. Ten Pound Hammer • 23:34, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- Actually disagree. I've seen coverage of this in surprising places, from the Computer History Museum I recently visited in San Francisco (Which has a whole display on it, and I had never heard of it before a few weeks ago when I saw it), to international publications like the italian GeoPop to scholarly pubs: 2018 2020 2021 2023. Just because this doesn't have as much traction in super online news sources or "ngram" publications doesn't mean it doesn't have longevity. It's just diffuse. Definitely has longevity as a notable Misplaced Pages hoax. — Shibbolethink 17:35, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
- Also FYI, there should probably be a short notice over at Talk:Jar'Edo Wens hoax about this discussion. — Shibbolethink 17:37, 4 November 2024 (UTC)