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I just trace back the fight between several editors and Misou (who was set up by some other editors in brilliant tactical manner, though very much detriment to the spirit of Misplaced Pages) and I just added to
]'s talk page that I find your "first block ever: one week" too harsh and an injustice not reflecting the circumstances of the incivility claimed. ] 02:39, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
This is EVula's talk page, which shouldn't be a surprise if you clicked the link...
My general guidelines:
If I (EVula) left you a comment on your talk page, please just respond there, not here, so that conversations aren't spread out. Similarly, if you post something here, I will respond here.
Optional parameter in the "usernameblock" ("unb") template
What isn't documented at {{usernameblock}}, and should be (but I can't edit it to do so, it's protected), is that the template takes an optional parameter. {{usernameblock|reason for block}}, or even {{unb|reason for block}}, will replace the rest of the sentence following "blocked indefinitely because", up to the parenthetical "(see our blocking and username policies for more information)", with your own specific reason for the block.
That is, the boilerplate text -- ..."it may be rude or inflammatory, unnecessarily long/confusing, too similar to an existing user, contains the name of an organization or website, or is otherwise inappropriate"... -- goes away and is replaced by your own text.
If you enter: {{unb|"Charles Prince of Wales" too closely resembles the existing username "The Outlaw Josey Wales"}} you get:
Your username has been blocked indefinitely because "Charles Prince of Wales" too closely resembles the existing username "The Outlaw Josey Wales" (see our blocking and username policies for more information).
(and the rest of the template stays the same)
Please pass the word. For blocking admins to consistently use that feature would certainly cut down on our head-scratching at WP:RFCN over "Why was this name blocked?" -- Ben05:07, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
OK, it is time We Tubers had our own wiki. I am starting a wiki just on YouTube guys with more than 100 subscribers. I need ten good sysops. I've seen your contributions and that you realise there is a problem here on WP with too many mems being added in. We need to broaden the idea of wikis. I would like to invite you to participate. Please let me know by emailing me. frummer08:51, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
Dear EVula: Your edits, as in User:EVula#Collection of threats, have shown traces of a sense of humor, which is disruptive of the serious, somber, and relentlessly grim mood that so many other good people in all walks of life have exhibited just before burning out entirely. Be advised that if you continue on this present course, you face the risk of enjoying yourself while at work on this project, and you may even have a similar effect on other editors. Please consider very carefully whether you want to be responsible for such consequences. Thank you. -- Ben09:47, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
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As it appears EVula isn't online at the present time, I'll give you a quick answer. The {{protected}} template doesn't protect an article, it instead lets readers know it is protected - the template that is added when it is protected. What you are looking for is here. This is where you request for a page to be protected and give your reasons (in this case it'd be semi-protected: only registered users can edit). Once it is protected, the Sysop who protected it would add the {{protected}} template to the article themselves. Hope this helps ^_^ ≈ The Haunted Angel17:43, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
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Sorry for the blatant spam, but you have yourself down as interested at WikiProject user warnings WP:UW. There is a discussion on going here that might be of interest to you about the future of this project. There are two strawpolls on the talk pages and the second one is about the future of the WP:UW project. Now we have the end in sight we are looking at wrapping up the project and merging it with Template messages/User talk namespace WP:UTM and creating a one stop shop for all userspace template issue. As you have yourself down as interested in this project we thought you may have some input on this issue, and would like you to visit the discussion and give any thoughts you may have on the matter. Cheers 10:20, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
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Revived discussion concerning fair use in portals
I am contacting everyone who participated in the discussion that became inactive in December. Due to the length of the previous discussion, I have proposed a new amendment and you like you to weigh in so that we may actually have a consensus on this matter as it doesn't seem there exists one either way. -ΖαππερΝαππερAlexandria
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Fishes
There is a new proposal on naming conventions for fish being discussed at WikiProject Fishes. As a member of a project whose naming conventions would be affected (WikiProject Sharks), your feedback would be appreciated at the WikiProject Fishes talk page here. Neil916 (Talk) 00:55, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
you've shown interest in this article, and its now up for deletion under notability, i thought you might like to weigh in Sherzo09:09, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
I am back EVula as Brit XII. And you thought you stopped me. You may have killed American Brit but his dispiles like me wont die. Brit XII17:46, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
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Thanks, I replied in-thread —Quarl 2007-04-04 12:10Z
Woops
Sorry, i didnt realise that it had closed. I removed it becuase i thought he was still a hopeful and i wasn't serious. (a ban from that page wasnt neccessary) But yeah i did go over the top a bit on April Fools, sorry bout all that. I shall go back to editing(for the better) articles. I really do help out! This page and this page is examples of my work. :) Arn't i just so helpful, most the pictures there are mine too! — Preceding unsigned comment added by IAmTheCoinMan (talk • contribs)
For saving the Chechnya userbox. I thought of adopting this userbox myself, because the Chechen people are dear to me as fellow believers in Allah. Al-Bargit16:10, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
Hehe, I really hope you didn't suggest those and think that I wouldn't accept the challenge, because otherwise you're going to be fairly pissed soon. ;) EVula // talk // ☯ // 20:06, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
On the contrary, I've already taken care of it for you now. Incidentally, you missed the succession boxes I added to Mon Mothma, Princess Leia Organa, and Finis Valorum (which I've also reverted). I never understood the tendecy of most wikipedians to "fix" something on one page but not bother to check if it was done on related pages.--Dr who197522:18, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
Probably because they don't have the time. I was fully planning on taking care of those, but got wrapped up in administrative "paper"-work and then got a call to help a friend move. Poo, I was so looking forward to axing those after moving bookcases and boxes. Oh well, looks like I'll have to do some other mindless, repetitive task for the next few hours. :) EVula // talk // ☯ // 22:45, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
OK... I get it. We all have day jobs. In any event, your comments lead me to think that you're not too emotionally invested in this one way or the other and that you are simply trying to enforce the guidline. That leads me to ask, why enforce so ridgidly something that;s a guideline and not a policy?--Dr who197512:16, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
To which I ask the question: why wouldn't I? I'm a strong believer in maintaining the Manual of Style across all of the articles, and I do believe that documenting in-universe relationships like that (in succession boxes) gives them undue weight and is contrary to the real-world perspective we're to maintain on Misplaced Pages. EVula // talk // ☯ // 16:18, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
Y'know... you put that a lot more articulatly than the MOS did. It simply bans the use of ALL succession boxes for fictional characters... whether they have internal Universe perspective or not. It's a real issue.--Dr who197500:17, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
lilkunta
I just had to remove Lilkunta's formatting of their messages here (and they used a font I did have installed); this isn't the user's talk page. Grrr. EVula // talk // ☯ // 23:27, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
Pls take no offense as this post is incomic and change it if u must. Let me know how I should post 2 u. I was told Chiller was the problem and suggested to use this ( comic ) or garamond, so I'm using comic. U said u have comic sans, was my post hard to read? Lilkunta23:36, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
You misunderstand my problem. I don't think you should be using your personal font styling anywhere other than on your own talk page. What you use there, I couldn't care less; I just shouldn't be subjected to it when, say, on the Administrator noticeboard, or another user's talk page. EVula // talk // ☯ // 23:40, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
There's a discussion going on at Dick Grayson with regard to replacing the imaged used with the infobox there.
Nutshell is that it was going in circles (including image flips) and I had put up a straw poll a week ago to see if we were any where near a consensus about 1) changing it, 2) if so, to what, and 3) should relevant guidelines be applied.
Could you take a swing by the talk page and see if there is some way of actually closing out the discussion as someone who's outside the debate?
I'm actually about to head out the door right now; I'll take a look at it either tonight if I get home early (highly unlikely), or tomorrow when I eventually drag my sorry ass out of bed. ;) EVula // talk // ☯ // 00:03, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
How would you recommend getting a legitimate cite for Candlejack's status as a meme? Most people who search for information on Candlejack know him as a meme, not as a Freakazoid! character. 4chan memes are rarely, if ever, discussed in scholarly books or articles. I'm sure if I cited a blog or something, you would consider it unsatisfactory. So, basically, how do I get a cite? Algabal00:44, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
Well, usually a blog isn't an acceptable source for something. However, when discussing memes in general, I do believe that the normal rules for citations can be stretched a bit. How about we meet somewhere in the middle; if you can find a couple of sources that, if taken individually, wouldn't past muster, I'd be fine with combining them into a single citation (ie: a single citation, but that citation mentions maybe three or four blogs). EVula // talk // ☯ // 06:15, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
Hi EVula, can I ask for further clarification on why you didn't delete Talk:Bob Mcilvaine under WP:CSD#G8? {{db-talk}} and WP:CSD say G8 can be used for the talk page of a page which has been deleted (with no mention of any specific process) or does not exist, which this page meets. The exceptions include 'If the page contains deletion discussion that is not logged elsewhere' (the others are irrelevant), but this page has an AFD discussion which mentions the one deletion point brought up on the page. I believe G8 can be applied and would like to hear your thoughts for future reference. Thanks, mattbr19:31, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
Hmm, actually yes, you're right; the only discussion there was well before the AfD was closed. On the whole, I feel that G8 is abused; talk pages are routinely deleted just because their articles don't exist anymore, with no regard to whether or not there is actual content. A good example would be Talk:Mortal Kombat: Devastation; the article was deleted, but I then restored it and moved it to my userspace where it could be worked on until there are more sources; the talk page serves as a notice for people to use the userfied version, rather than create a new article (which has happened). I tend to err on the side of caution, though this time it would have been fine to just delete it. Thanks for bringing it back to my attention. :) EVula // talk // ☯ // 20:26, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
Thanks, I have been working through a list and I have left ones that have content that is left after deletion on purpose, or ones I'm not sure about, but there are plenty that are just nonsense and/or don't need keeping! Thanks again, mattbr22:26, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
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Style
I thought the style was better the way it was before. I compared both versions. The excessive big bold headings was not quite remarkable. Furthermore, there was a creation of a space gap at the top of the external links section. My edit improved the style. Thanks for asking. :) - Mr.Gurü (/contribs) 22:18, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
I would consider the actual segmenting of the headings (visible in the TOC) to be better than how it merely appears (and the gap is obviously a browser-dependant issue, as I see none), especially since the headings aren't any bigger than any other level-3 heading anywhere else on Misplaced Pages, but whatever; it isn't that big of a deal. EVula // talk // ☯ // 22:22, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
I see a big gap which is serious and not minor. The large headings are unnecessary and undue weight. Respectively, :) - Mr.Gurü (/contribs) 22:27, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
Oh, I can understand the gap being an issue, though I can think of a way around that. The headings having "undue weight", though, confuses me, but like I said, this isn't a big deal. :) EVula // talk // ☯ // 22:33, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
Hi. Hope you don't mind but I added a section break on ANI to try to spur some interest. So far only involved editors have commented on the length of the block. Please feel free to move or edit the section break if you care to. Thanks. --Justanother01:49, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
I think that's a great idea; I really am earnest in my willingness to cut the block down if others think it is too extreme. More discussion is welcome. :) EVula // talk // ☯ // 04:03, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
A most interesting comment at WP:ANI from previously un-involved editor, User:Robertissimo -- Having observed much of the above unfold as it happened, I feel this block (and its length) is appropriate. Robertissimo 05:15, 24 April 2007 (UTC) Here is the DIFF. Smee05:41, 24 April 2007 (UTC).
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Wdefcom
Don't do that. If you contest a deletion 1) Ask the deleter to reconsider 1) use DRV - which is currently debating the issue. Wheel warring defined by arbcom as 'reversing another administrator without discussion' may lead to your desysopping. Please consider reversing yourself to avoid further trouble.--Doc15:23, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
In my defense, I had no clue there was a DR going on for it; I saw a note about it on AN, and knew that speedily deleting a template that has survived multiple attempts at deletion through the proper channels was utter bullshit. CSD isn't a blank check for admins to get rid of whatever they happen to not like; he should have sent it through TfD again, not hid behind T1. EVula // talk // ☯ // 15:29, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
You may well be right. But that's a matter for debate. There's seldom an urgency to restore anything, and if someone deletes something according to his view of what's obvious and then you restore it according to yours we get into a wheel war. Hence, the mantra arbcom gave us was never to reverse without discussion. DRV is discussing it - if you are right, they will reverse the deletion.--Doc15:33, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
What? You mean that the the world's very existence didn't hinge on whether the template was still around or not? I thought this was the most important thing to ever happen! ;)
I'm willing to say that I jumped the gun a bit by restoring, but I'm entirely unwilling to reverse my restoration; I truly believe that Thebainer abused his deletion ability by deleting the template simply because he didn't like it.
If the DR does indeed come to the conclusion that it should stay deleted, I'll consider that the next best thing to a successful TfD. EVula // talk // ☯ // 15:39, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
OK, but generally don't jump to reverse people just because you 'know' you are right. Bainer, no doubt, thought he was right. You are also right. I could 'know' I'm right by re-deleting it with 'don't undelete this out of process - wait for DRV' and then someone else might re-undelete it because they 'know' my redeletion was wrong. That might sound crazy, but it has happened many times before. That's why it is best to pause before reversing even an outrageous decision by another admin. Best to say 'I'm going to reverse this, unless anyone objects' and wait an hour or two. Or come to DRV and call for a 'speedy undelete'. If the deletion is as outrageous as you 'know' it is, you will quickly get support. Whilst bainer's deletion may be viewed as outrageous in the end, not having a template for a few hours, whilst we talk, is far less damaging than risking a righteous wheel-war. Anyway, peace.--Doc15:50, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
Oh, trust me, this sort of thing isn't happening again. I learn rather quickly, albeit only after I get myself into trouble. ;) EVula // talk // ☯ // 16:06, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
I just trace back the fight between several editors and Misou (who was set up by some other editors in brilliant tactical manner, though very much detriment to the spirit of Misplaced Pages) and I just added to
Misou's talk page that I find your "first block ever: one week" too harsh and an injustice not reflecting the circumstances of the incivility claimed. CSI LA02:39, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
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