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:::::{{ping|Joe Roe}} I realized it was a ''potential'' outcome, but that doesn't mean I didn't hope for things to end differently. Despite this whole thing, I don't like making people upset. I just want everyone to get along and listen when constructive feedback is offered, you know? I realize you've seen your fair share of desysops as an arb and I also recognize that user conduct issues are not really my forté. There's a reason I declined the numerous people who asked me to run for ArbCom this year. Anyways, this is getting a bit off-topic. I mostly just wanted to offer my condolences so Fastily knows I'm not gravedancing in the back. I do genuinely see this as a sad outcome. If you want to engage further, my talk page is a good place. I'm sure seeing multiple notifications saying Clovermoss left a message on your talk under these circumstances probably isn't the best feeling, so I'm not going to comment further here. ] ] 19:08, 19 November 2024 (UTC) :::::{{ping|Joe Roe}} I realized it was a ''potential'' outcome, but that doesn't mean I didn't hope for things to end differently. Despite this whole thing, I don't like making people upset. I just want everyone to get along and listen when constructive feedback is offered, you know? I realize you've seen your fair share of desysops as an arb and I also recognize that user conduct issues are not really my forté. There's a reason I declined the numerous people who asked me to run for ArbCom this year. Anyways, this is getting a bit off-topic. I mostly just wanted to offer my condolences so Fastily knows I'm not gravedancing in the back. I do genuinely see this as a sad outcome. If you want to engage further, my talk page is a good place. I'm sure seeing multiple notifications saying Clovermoss left a message on your talk under these circumstances probably isn't the best feeling, so I'm not going to comment further here. ] ] 19:08, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
::::::Once you brought things to ANI, things got rolling and almost certainly the petition and everything that came after was the direct result. You were perfectly within your right to do what you did and the community response seems to support how things played out. People typically don't start recall petitions about public officials they feel are doing bang up jobs or who are even just in need of a minor course correction; they seek recall of those who they feel (for whatever reason) really need to go. A recall is not a feel good moment where both sides say good job after it is over. I'd be surprised if someone resigning after a recall petition reached its threshold didn't come up during the discussions which established this new policy, but the community decided that the possibility of "hurt feelings" or "sad outcomes" were far outweighed by the positive things the new policy does. So, just take this for what it is and move on. Coming back and posting like you and some others who signed the petition have done seems (at least to me) disingenuous at best. If all you really wanted was a direct apology, there perhaps was a better way to try and get one. Finally, I'm not sure why what Fastily thinks about this whole thing should matter to you or anyone else who signed, especially at this point. It seems odd to me that you or anyone else who signed feel now is the time to express such concerns or wish Fastily the best, and posting such things seems to be more for your or their benefit than Fastily's benefit. You or they could just as easily emailed Fastily and expressed the same concerns privately if you wanted to do so. -- ] (]) 22:04, 19 November 2024 (UTC) ::::::Once you brought things to ANI, things got rolling and almost certainly the petition and everything that came after was the direct result. You were perfectly within your right to do what you did and the community response seems to support how things played out. People typically don't start recall petitions about public officials they feel are doing bang up jobs or who are even just in need of a minor course correction; they seek recall of those who they feel (for whatever reason) really need to go. A recall is not a feel good moment where both sides say good job after it is over. I'd be surprised if someone resigning after a recall petition reached its threshold didn't come up during the discussions which established this new policy, but the community decided that the possibility of "hurt feelings" or "sad outcomes" were far outweighed by the positive things the new policy does. So, just take this for what it is and move on. Coming back and posting like you and some others who signed the petition have done seems (at least to me) disingenuous at best. If all you really wanted was a direct apology, there perhaps was a better way to try and get one. Finally, I'm not sure why what Fastily thinks about this whole thing should matter to you or anyone else who signed, especially at this point. It seems odd to me that you or anyone else who signed feel now is the time to express such concerns or wish Fastily the best, and posting such things seems to be more for your or their benefit than Fastily's benefit. You or they could just as easily emailed Fastily and expressed the same concerns privately if you wanted to do so. -- ] (]) 22:04, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
:I too am wondering if he retired because of ] and the recall petition. I think you’re probably right and that he left the project because he didn’t want to be held accountable for following simple rules and expectations for admin conduct. I only hope - as I’m sure he does too - that his retirement will serve as a notice to the community and make everyone regret signing that petition. Perhaps everyone will realize how wrong and mean they were to hold him accountable and they will apologize and exempt him from RfA. ] (]) 01:16, 21 November 2024 (UTC)


== Thank you, and farewell == == Thank you, and farewell ==

Revision as of 01:26, 21 November 2024

Retired This user is no longer active on Misplaced Pages.

Thank you

For all your hard work and contributions. Pickersgill-Cunliffe (talk) 09:14, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

Thanks also from me. You will be missed. Johnuniq (talk) 09:15, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
From me also, you were a workhorse doing thankless work. ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 10:08, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
+1. Thank you for years of great confributions. I hope you'll be back someday, buf if you won't, wishing you all the best in your next adventures. ''']''' (talk • contribs) 10:11, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
Same, truly appreciate all of your work. Legoktm (talk) 17:00, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
+1. Good luck on your future endeavors, you deserve better. 1989 (talk) 17:19, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
+me. I would have supported you, if you had chosen to run again. Best wishes for whatever you do next – after all, this is only a website, and other things are more important. --Tryptofish (talk) 18:24, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
+1 not surprised, but saddened, to see this after that public stoning. Thanks for all your work and I sincerely hope you find some fun in what comes next. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 20:33, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
Sad to see this, but I'd probably do the same. I'm so sorry you and Graham are the guinea pigs for this shiny new guillotine. You did a hell of a lot of work, and should be proud. If we somehow manage to not to destroy ourselves, maybe you'll be back someday when it's not all so gross and bloodthirsty. Floquenbeam (talk) 20:59, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
Thank you for 16 wonderful years on this project. I have been looking at your contributions form afar, found your tools very useful, and have always counted on you as indispensable for this project. Just note that the community will welcome you with open arms should you choose to return, at least from my standpoint. I wish you the absolute best, no matter what path you may choose to take in the near or far future. — 3PPYB6 — 22:06, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
+1. I'm surprised you didn't go for re-RFA. But if anyone deserves a break, you do. Enjoy it. -- asilvering (talk) 23:38, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
+1 Thank you for your service and hard work here. At times like this Misplaced Pages truly does suck!, Misplaced Pages has lost a valuable person, I wish you all the very best, Take care and stay safe. –Davey2010 01:40, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
Thanks for your years of service as a longtime editor and administrator. Vaya con dios! Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 02:09, 20 November 2024 (UTC)

Retirement

Hi Fastily. I'm a bit sad to see you have a retired. I thought that recall was a load of bollocks and fully expected you to come out your corner fighting. I was planning to attend the rfa and !vote for you. I'll miss you. I hope your future endeavours are as successful as you have been on here. Take care. scope_creep 09:18, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

Retirement from Misplaced Pages

Dear Fastily,

I am a bit shocked to see that you've suddenly retired from Misplaced Pages. That was a bit unexpected to me.

Even though I've done the wrong things by removing your message on 30 September 2024 at WP:RFP/R, I still appreciated your hard work at Misplaced Pages. Thank you for being with us for 16 years.

One question to anyone who is at this talk page, is there a reason why Fastily retired if anybody knows? Possibly because of WP:ADMINACCT or Misplaced Pages:Administrator recall/Fastily? Again, it was just really sudden and unexpected that Fastily retired.

Anyways, hope you enjoy your life outside Misplaced Pages.

Thanks. PEPSI697 (💬 • 📝) 09:34, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

I'd imagine it does have something to do with the the petition that you yourself signed. -- Marchjuly (talk) 10:41, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
Exactly. Are you for real? Why are you saying your shocked when you were part of it. Yous confused scale of work with the associated human errors with competence. There was never an issue of competence here. Now an excellent heavyweight adminstrator has left has project, to the projects detriment. (Personal attack removed) scope_creep 12:23, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
That last sentence seems unnecessarily harsh. All I wanted was a direct apology and for Fastily to change their deletion script. I didn't want them to leave the project entirely. I know that this message probably isn't the best to be coming from me, but I do feel some regret here. I just wished things played out differently, you know? Regardless, I do wish Fastily the best IRL. I hope that maybe they'll come back someday but no one is obligated to do something they no longer wish to do. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 13:13, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
I have removed the last sentence as a personal attack. Barkeep49 (talk) 15:49, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
That feels rather ironic, given that the sentiment scope creep expressed to Pepsi697—I don't want you to have this position any more because I think you are doing damage with it—is the same as what Pepsi697 and 25 others expressed to Fastily in signing the petition. @Clovermoss: As someone who's been involved in more than my fair share of desysops, you never want this to be the outcome, but it is naive not to recognise it as a potential (even likely) outcome. This whole thread is in poor taste. – Joe (talk) 16:41, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
@Joe Roe: I realized it was a potential outcome, but that doesn't mean I didn't hope for things to end differently. Despite this whole thing, I don't like making people upset. I just want everyone to get along and listen when constructive feedback is offered, you know? I realize you've seen your fair share of desysops as an arb and I also recognize that user conduct issues are not really my forté. There's a reason I declined the numerous people who asked me to run for ArbCom this year. Anyways, this is getting a bit off-topic. I mostly just wanted to offer my condolences so Fastily knows I'm not gravedancing in the back. I do genuinely see this as a sad outcome. If you want to engage further, my talk page is a good place. I'm sure seeing multiple notifications saying Clovermoss left a message on your talk under these circumstances probably isn't the best feeling, so I'm not going to comment further here. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 19:08, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
Once you brought things to ANI, things got rolling and almost certainly the petition and everything that came after was the direct result. You were perfectly within your right to do what you did and the community response seems to support how things played out. People typically don't start recall petitions about public officials they feel are doing bang up jobs or who are even just in need of a minor course correction; they seek recall of those who they feel (for whatever reason) really need to go. A recall is not a feel good moment where both sides say good job after it is over. I'd be surprised if someone resigning after a recall petition reached its threshold didn't come up during the discussions which established this new policy, but the community decided that the possibility of "hurt feelings" or "sad outcomes" were far outweighed by the positive things the new policy does. So, just take this for what it is and move on. Coming back and posting like you and some others who signed the petition have done seems (at least to me) disingenuous at best. If all you really wanted was a direct apology, there perhaps was a better way to try and get one. Finally, I'm not sure why what Fastily thinks about this whole thing should matter to you or anyone else who signed, especially at this point. It seems odd to me that you or anyone else who signed feel now is the time to express such concerns or wish Fastily the best, and posting such things seems to be more for your or their benefit than Fastily's benefit. You or they could just as easily emailed Fastily and expressed the same concerns privately if you wanted to do so. -- Marchjuly (talk) 22:04, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

Thank you, and farewell

I remember working with you when I was more active on Misplaced Pages, especially in CSD tagging, and all my experiences and interactions with you that I can recollect are quite positive. As such I'm sad to see you leave the project after that recall; I was quietly expecting to support you had you gone for the RRfA.

Thank you for your long years of hard work with (and without) the mop on the project. I wish you the best for your future life off Misplaced Pages. Namarie! JavaHurricane 09:57, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

+ 1. I was the (last) person to sign the petition, but right after it closed I really regretted it, and I would have 100% supported your re-RfA. I'm sorry, and I genuinely think you've done an amazing job. EF 13:23, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

Sorry to see you go

Hi Fastily, I hope you're reading these messages and know how much you were appreciated. You worked so hard for the community, I can't imagine how you must feel about the whole situation. You will be missed by a lot of people.

I do hope you decide to return to editing at some point. All the best mate, Knitsey (talk) 17:26, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for all of your hard work over the years

Hello Fastily, I don't believe we've ever had a conversation on WP, but I've seen and admired your excellent work here for many years. You have been an incredibly helpful and prolific editor and administrator who has done a tremendous amount of work to improve the encyclopedia. I was shocked to see the recall petition opened and argued the way it was, and was saddened by the outcome and your decision to retire (although it's understandable given the situation.) Unfortunately, sometimes the notion of what constitutes "civility" within this community can be weaponized, and we can lose people like you. IMHO, there is a huge difference between being civil and "acting" civil or "performing civility". I believe, and always have, that you are (as in to be) a civil and decent human being and approached your role as editor/admin with effectiveness and integrity. I just want you to know that there are many of us here that will miss you very much and appreciate everything you have done. I hope that you will return some day, and wish you all the best. Netherzone (talk) 17:39, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

  • Fastily, I'm going to chime in with this message. Thank you so much for the time and energy you have devoted to our beautiful project. I'm sure you're feeling pretty raw right now and I am sorry. Thanks again. Drmies (talk) 02:37, 20 November 2024 (UTC)

Goodbye Fastily...

Thank you for your contributions. You will always be missed. ‹hamster717🐉› 18:52, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

Sayonara

Thanks Fastily for all your hard work and your service. You will definitely be missed. Awesome Aasim 19:22, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
I can't blame your decision to stand down, though you will be deeply missed. Ad Orientem (talk) 21:32, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

Bidding my personal farewell. I hope if you see this, it has brightened your day in a sea of dark.

— 3PPYB6 — 22:09, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

Farewell

Goodbye Fastily, it's a shame to see you go. Thank you for promoting me to rollbacker. TheWikiToby (talk) 06:06, 20 November 2024 (UTC)

I am so sorry

This place won't be the same without you. I had no idea there was a recall thingy going on. Happy trails and all that... I am gobsmacked. - Shearonink (talk) 06:53, 20 November 2024 (UTC)