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...to pull TPA. User_talk:Corene_Effertz --Seawolf35 05:54, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, all set. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 05:58, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

Notification of arbitration enforcement appeal

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Multiple account abuse

Hello ScottishFinnishRadish! You recently blocked a vandal using an IP account, 71.215.20.179, for repeated vandalism of Barenaked Ladies demo tapes. That same vandal has multiple accounts & appears to doggedly vandalise the same things again & again over many years. Currently they are using No Wheat Is Allowed, DEH189, Esporta Fitness Is Prohibited, also IP editor 71.215.9.55 & probably more. They are obviously these previously banned vandals: TheresNoWayOut, Woldabe8, 92A, 71.215.219.113, & Front8912. They make a number of Subtle/Silly vandalism but seem most obsessed with changing the number in the title of the Barenaked Ladies song, "If I Had $1000000". Many of the accounts will have 9 edits to their Sandbox, an obvious attempt to game the Autoconfirmed status. I wonder if you could please block those mentioned accounts as vandals/block evasion? I just don't understand someone putting so much effort into vandalism, with that much effort they could make actual useful edits. Thank-you for your time! LooksGreatInATurtleNeck (talk) 16:36, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

I only saw one account in the list unblocked, so I took care of that. The unblocked ips are stale so I didn't bother with them. I also protected the demo tapes article for a few months. Thanks for the heads up and let me know if you see any more disruption. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 16:55, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
Hello ScottishFinnishRadish! Thank-you so much for the very swift action! Also thanks to Pickersgill-Cunliffe who appears to have swatted the other accounts I mentioned in the list, the reason they were blocked when you got to them. Both of you acted really quickly. Thanks for your time & help! LooksGreatInATurtleNeck (talk) 17:01, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
Glad to help, that's why they pay us the big bucks. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 17:06, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
You guys are getting paid? Pickersgill-Cunliffe (talk) 17:09, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
My bank account is full of Misplaced Pages thanks, barnstars, and good vibes. Unrelated, but can anyone spare some scratch for my mortgage? ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 17:11, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

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Thank you for standing for arbitrator. I am far away from it all (travel, mourning), not in the mood, so just an informal question you can answer or ignore:

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Those articles don't, in and of themselves, tell me a lot about infoboxes, other than that most of them have infoboxes. Quick power ranking on their hair, though.
  1. Franz Schreker - Off center widows peak over male-pattern baldness. Wild wings on the sides. Combined with the expression he really communicates "intense Austrian composer"
  2. Alexander von Zemlinsky - always maximum respect for a pompadour
  3. Arnold Schoenberg - I'll always believe that Picard was the best captain, and this haircut communicates that. Middle of the road though, as the default bald guy cut
  4. Gustav Mahler - trying to pull off the "genius that doesn't care about his hair" look, but Schreker did it much better
  5. Erich Wolfgang Korngold - looks like he's going to a job interview at a bank
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Hi. Maybe the wrong place but this may be the quickest. this user is multiple IP abuser.uses "bann".here same with blocked ip. Beshogur (talk) 16:13, 20 November 2024 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure it's actually RumyantsevPolkovodets. I've blocked for a month for block evasion. Thanks for the heads up, and let me know if you see them pop up again. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 16:46, 20 November 2024 (UTC)

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Hi ScottishFinnishRadish, I noticed that you are running for Arbcom elections. I want to wish you good luck for it. I have just voted for you :) Maliner (talk) 18:43, 20 November 2024 (UTC)

Thank you very much! ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 18:53, 20 November 2024 (UTC)

Gaza Genocide

I believe you protected Talk on Gaza Genocide. I have insufficient editing experience to qualify for the proper status to post on Talk for this page. I was wondering how it is possible to communicate the simplest information. Specifically, a reference to the link of UN Special Rapporteur Francesca Albanese's latest report Genocide as Colonial Erasure from October 2024 is missing. This is the link:

https://www.un.org/unispal/document/genocide-as-colonial-erasure-report-francesca-albanese-01oct24/

The reference number should be placed before number 240. I hope you or someone else will add it.

Is there any way I can post a topic on Talk to add information for someone else to consider and edit? I understand the importance of restricting access to controversial topics. I am only starting to edit again, after a 7 year absence, and I never edited much to begin with. I would like to improve accuracy of topics with minor additions. Davids0011 (talk) 11:25, 21 November 2024 (UTC)

You can request that edit at Misplaced Pages:Requests for page protection/Edit where patrollers will check it and either action it, move it to the talk page for further discussion, or decline it. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 12:16, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
Thank you. Davids0011 (talk) 12:24, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
No problem. I'm going to place a couple messages on your talk page that explain some of the peculiarities of the ARBPIA topic area. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 12:28, 21 November 2024 (UTC)

Report

Hey,

Take a look on that user please.

IdanST (talk) 15:54, 21 November 2024 (UTC)

It is an IP that made a series of edits over 13 minutes two weeks ago, and was blocked. At this point there's nothing else to do. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 16:16, 21 November 2024 (UTC)

Udham Singh

Hi, it is regarding sockpuppetry by Robinsinghkamboj, who was blocked for removal of sourced content and making legal threats. Apparently, they are back with another ID. Have a look . - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 10:56, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

Blocked. Might be meat, rather than a sock, but the effect is the same. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:53, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

Edit warring at History of the compass

Could you take a look at History of the compass? An IP editor is edit warring against multiple editors. -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested «@» °∆t° 15:39, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

Nevermind already taken care of. -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested «@» °∆t° 15:40, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
I see they were just blocked. Just one IP address in the past month, so not going to protect now, but if you see it continue just let me know. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 15:40, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
Will do, thanks. -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested «@» °∆t° 15:45, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

1259510796

can be deleted, too.

Also, I'm noticing a very unusual error, when I compare diffs between the LTA and a clean version, it won't show, obviously, because I'm not an admin, but then it also pops up the following in a red box:

User doesn't have access to the requested revision (The revision #1259514017 belongs to a deleted page. You can ; details can be found in the .).

(I've nowikied the above, because the error box literally shows that).

Screenshot of an error where the red box shows content that was supposed to include links, but links failed.

Myrealnamm's Alternate Account (talk) 16:23, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

Not sure what's up with the error. Maybe because some adjacent revision is deleted? I took care of 796. Thanks for the heads up. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 16:28, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
I couldn't find the message in Special:AllMessages. Are there other places where they are located?
Also, 1259514953 is still live. Myrealnamm's Alternate Account (talk) 16:30, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
All set. As for the message, you got me stumped. VPT is probably a better venue for that as I'm blissfully unaware of where many of those messages are located. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 16:33, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
Ok, I'll post this at VPT
wait... there's more than 5000 messages, hang on Myrealnamm's Alternate Account (talk) 16:35, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
It seems like MediaWiki:Rest-permission-denied-revision would be the closest match.
Posting to VPT... Myrealnamm's Alternate Account (talk) 16:38, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

Request additional revision deletion at Misplaced Pages:Help desk

Hi, I recently noticed you deleted a bunch of revisions at Misplaced Pages:Help desk, but there are some remaining vandalising edits (most notably, this one) whose offending content and edit summaries are still visible. Would it be okay if you redacted the content and edit summaries on the remaining offending edits? 208.114.63.4 (talk) 16:59, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) the user doing this is an attention-seeking troll. The less we do the better, and revdel doesn't actually stop them doing anything. Ivanvector (/Edits) 17:16, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
I normally just zap the ones I see when I revert. They're not really worth more than minimal effort. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 17:26, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

Revdel request at Talk:Imane Khelif

This again. Does this signal the TP might need protection from unregistered users? Thanks as ever for your thoughts. JFHJr () 00:20, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

That was fast. Thank you so much! JFHJr () 00:22, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
No problem. There's not enough disruption at this point for talk page protection, since it looks like the last issue was two weeks ago. If it pops up again, let me know, and thanks for keeping a weather eye. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 00:25, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

Block conflict

I've reverted my block of Trampled crop field (talk · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log· investigate · cuwiki) to the settings you had posted. Looks like we had a conflict there. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 01:09, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

Bare Naked Multiple Account Abuse

Hello ScottishFinnishRadish! Return of that multiple account abuser making Subtle/Silly edits, this time as DooraDora. Same changes as last time to the amount in the song title "If I Had $1,000,000". Kind of sad that they have nothing better to do. Could you please block the account? At least this should help toward that mortgage, you guys do get a bounty right? :) Thanks for your time! LooksGreatInATurtleNeck (talk) 01:58, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

All set, thanks for the heads-up. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 02:01, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
Hello ScottishFinnishRadish! Goodness, you're fast! Thank-you kindly for your work! Take care, LooksGreatInATurtleNeck (talk) 02:03, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

Vegan416

Hi SFR, I wonder if you'd consider lifting your TBAN of Vegan416? Maybe you'll need to hear from him, but I thought I'd try to facilitate as someone more comfortable with such wiki processes. I reached out to him because he had done some extremely substantive work, such as this research, and I hoped to see more of that.

I think the reasons for the TBAN were valid, but it has been 4 months which seems like a significant sanction already. Can't be sure that the issues won't recur, but I would argue that a second chance makes sense given Vegan's unique substantive contributions. — xDanielx /C\ 15:59, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

I can say that I realize that speaking publicly about other editors' personal political (or other) opinions is against the rule, and I can promise to avoid doing that again in the future. Vegan416 (talk) 16:18, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
Per WP:CTOP, Only the restricted editor may appeal an editor restriction. Looking at their contributions since the topic ban, I see some sub-par BLP editing that makes me a bit wary about lifting any topic ban unilaterally. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 16:22, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
What is the meaning of "unilaterally" in this context? Vegan416 (talk) 11:54, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
On my own, as the administrator who sanctioned you. I would rather you get broader input through appealing at AE or AN. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:59, 28 November 2024 (UTC)

Appeal on indefinite ban on topic

Hello SFR, One year and one month ago, you banned me "indefinitely from any edits related to the Arab/Israel conflict" for unknowingly committing "a 1RR" violation even though I had undone the violation by myself immediately after realizing it was a 1RR, before anyone had done any other edits to the page, and before your ban. I argued at the time that it was clear that I simply hadn't noticed that it was a 1RR violation, as I explicitly stated in the edit summary that I was again reverting someone else's undue removal of content, and only a few minutes later I undid my own edit as I realized it would constitute a 1RR in less than 24 hours violation on my part, but still you ruled to ban me "indefinitely" as, according to you, the Arab/Israel conflict was too serious for someone who was not 100% familiar with the 1RR violation rule. Now that over one year has passed since then, and as I truly believe that a permanent ban (for a violation that had already been corrected by myself in a matter of minutes) was a harsh decision, I intend to appeal the indefinite ban. Before taking the matter to appropriate mechanisms of ban reviews, though, I decided to present these arguments first to you, and to therefore ask if you would be willing to consider removing the indefinite ban yourself. Thank you very much for your time and attention, and for all the time dedicated to Misplaced Pages, and have a good day. Dan Palraz (talk) 08:56, 28 November 2024 (UTC)

You made far more edits in the week leading to your topic ban than you've made in the past year so it's difficult to determine if there's been a significant improvement. If you do appeal I suggest you mention your earlier 6 month topic ban that came with an explicit warning, I would strongly caution you (Dan Palraz@) though that if there are any problematic edits in this topic area after the topic ban expires you will almost definitely end up with an indefinite topic ban and that given that the behaviour continued it would be difficult to successfully appeal. as it provides some context to your indefinite topic ban. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:51, 28 November 2024 (UTC)

Block Evasion

You used these words "Block Evasion" to revert multiple edits today on airport pages. What does this phrase mean and why did you use it to revert edits ? Pmbma (talk) 14:37, 28 November 2024 (UTC)

I was mass-reverting the edits of an editor that was evading blocks on a number of other IP addresses. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 14:41, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
Some of the edits were good - I would have done the same edits. Pmbma (talk) 14:49, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
Feel free to reinstate any edits that you believe were an improvement. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 14:55, 28 November 2024 (UTC)

Question about what constitutes edit warring (@Israel)

Hello @ScottishFinnishRadish:, @Barkeep49:. I wanted to ask you for some guidance whether the following situation amounts to edit warring.

  • Following a content dispute whether the "Gaza genocide" should be included on the Israel article, an RfC was started on 22 November.
  • On 27 November, despite the ongoing RfC, User:Selfstudier added content related to the "Gaza genocide" to the article.
  • Another editor reverted the addition and requested that Selfstudier refrain from adding the disputed content while the RfC is still ongoing.
  • A few minutes later, Selfstudier restored it anyway

Selfstudier says the RfC is about the lead, not the body, but the RfC is clearly about the body too (check the text here ). I contacted Selfstudier on their talk page asking them to self-revert but they said this wasn't edit warring , asking me to re-read the RfC (which I read, and is clearly on the body too) and threatened to report me for making a 'false accusation'. Then they went on to remove our discussion from the page . Overall this isn't the first time I'm seeing Selfstudier doing this for content that is being discussed in an RfC following a content dispute. What should one make out of this case? thanks. ABHammad (talk) 06:14, 29 November 2024 (UTC)

I trust this isn't going to be treated at all seriously. Selfstudier (talk) 15:11, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
Additionally, appears related to this. What should one make out of that? Selfstudier (talk) 15:43, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
This seems like the type of thing that, if you believe some action is necessary, should go to AE rather than to a single admin. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 21:18, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
@ScottishFinnishRadish I did ABHammad (talk) 15:02, 1 December 2024 (UTC)

@Selfstudier: Zero 07:55, 29 November 2024 (UTC)

TB?

See https://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:Doug_Weller#User_TheCuratingEditor

https://en.wikipedia.org/Special:Contributions/TheCuratingEditor Doug Weller talk 14:01, 29 November 2024 (UTC)

I would have blocked a few times by now for ECR violations if I had been aware. A topic ban is more than reasonable in my book. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 21:21, 29 November 2024 (UTC)

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A little follow-up

Just need a repeat of the archive sorting you did last time; mainly asking you so I don't have to explain it again; might be worth watchlisting that page, thanks. 184.152.68.190 (talk) 19:15, 30 November 2024 (UTC)

All set. I have it on my watchlist, but there's 5800 other pages on my watchlist, so stuff slips by. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 21:15, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
It's all good I understand. Thanks, 184.152.68.190 (talk) 21:41, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
No worries, thanks for keeping an eye out. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 22:12, 30 November 2024 (UTC)

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Thanks for watching the Zionism talk page

I originally came to ask about my comment's inclusion in the hatted section, but I understand now that you're currently "pruning" the talk page, so to speak.

As such, I'll instead thank you for your diligence. I understand that, with how contentious this topic is, "babysitting" it is exhausting work, but I wanted to let you know that I appreciate that work of yours nonetheless. Butterscotch Beluga (talk) 22:08, 30 November 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for that. Using an LLM to waste everyone's time is bad enough, but with the new word limits it's egregiously bad. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 22:11, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
Apologies for returning to this matter, but after some consideration, the usage of an LLM, & my previous issues verifying any of the quotes, I wanted to ask if this comment should be hatted as well?
If they are genuine quotes & I simply failed my attempt at sleuthing, I'll gladly eat crow, but I thought it'd be best to ask just in case.
Thank you for your time. Butterscotch Beluga (talk) 00:09, 1 December 2024 (UTC)
Sorted. I've already pulled their EC permission, as well, so ECR applies to them again. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 00:21, 1 December 2024 (UTC)

VOA TPA

Might want to unplug talk page access for this account. Thanks, — AP 499D25 (talk) 00:14, 1 December 2024 (UTC)

All set, thanks. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 00:21, 1 December 2024 (UTC)

On LLM checking

Hi SFR, I noticed you have recently been clearing up some LLM text from talk pages, I was just wondering if there was any specific tool you were using to flag/check whether a text was likely generated by an LLM? -- Cdjp1 (talk) 10:44, 1 December 2024 (UTC)

Many LLMs write with a particular style that stands out like a beacon when you're familiar with it. That's all I use. In my experience, the tools are essentially worthless. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 12:29, 1 December 2024 (UTC)