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The Political Position of the BJP
Currently it is "Right-Wing". But it should probably be "Right-Wing to Far-Right" in my opinion. Finding scholarly sources for it will certainly be a task, but I can clearly see a case for this.
The BJP's paramilitary wing, the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh, is already classified as far-right on its wiki page. It makes logical sense that the political party itself, if not using solely "far-right" to be classified as "right-wing to far-right". Game2Winter (talk) 23:01, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
I looked at two of the sources that Hidolo cited, both described it as "populist radical right". They do not say "far right". We need to stick to what sources say. We cannot say that the source says "X", that must mean "Y".
I know that it is sometimes said that the "radical right" are part of the far right, but the people who say this may have an agenda of their own. In any case, Misplaced Pages policy WP:NOR does not allow us to combine multiple sources to support a statement that none of the sources explicitly support. -- Toddy1(talk)08:03, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
how ever, there are a lot more. And you haven't even seen the other ones. In most far-right parties on English Misplaced Pages, they mention that it is a subset and they equate it. Please. Hidolo (talk) 12:57, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
You gave a list of seven citations, and I checked two, which did NOT support "far right" (they supported "populist radical right"). If you have citations that explicitly support "far right", then cite just them and quote what they say.-- Toddy1(talk)14:31, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
First, Misplaced Pages itself equates the extreme right with the radical right. See National Rally, Alternative for Germany, etc. Everyone accredits what I mean. What you say goes against Misplaced Pages itself. Second, here are all the quotes.
3rd one: the Indian far right, as represented by the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) , p103.
4th one: including the ruling, far-right nativist and authoritarian Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP, see Mudde, 2019) , unknown page.
5th one: The indu far-right Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) , p158.
6th onw: upper and middle castes joined forces in the far-right Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP). p107.
And the last one is a new, you can check for your own.
If you want this to proceed, you need to write a paragraph for the article on the BJP's political position. This needs to cite the kinds of sources you mention and to explain what they say. Please use Template:Cite book. For your "3rd one" this is probably a more useful URL than this because it helps the user find the right bit.
If all you want to do is to change the infobox... that is not going to happen until there is a paragraph in the text about this. The infobox is meant to be a summary, not a replacement for the article.-- Toddy1(talk)16:14, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
I would put . And thats it. But I can't modify the article because of the blocking, if you can add it would be corteus, and I would thank you a lot. Hidolo (talk) 17:54, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
No. Some sources say "Right-Wing", whilst other says "Far-Right". It seems to be a matter of opinion which it is.-- Toddy1(talk)14:37, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
Yeah we should be weary of such changes, because in pop culture the use of word "Fascism" has already degraded to mean nothing. At least on wikipedia the usage should be more descriptive. Averagepcuser (talk) 16:37, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
I want to add the following text in the "ideology and political positions" section. Obviously then in the template:
"The party along the history has been widely described as a right-wing party, but has recently been described as far-right one, specifically is considered part of the radical right, a subset of the far-right that does not oppose democracy." Hidolo (talk) 22:54, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
References
Malik & Singh 1992, pp. 318–336 sfnm error: no target: CITEREFMalikSingh1992 (help); Banerjee 2005, p. 3118 sfnm error: no target: CITEREFBanerjee2005 (help); BBC 2012 sfnm error: no target: CITEREFBBC2012 (help).
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"The party along the history has been widely described as a right-wing party, but has recently been described as far-right, specifically it is considered part of the radical right, a subset of the far-right that does not oppose democracy."
You used 14 sources for what the most generous English teacher wouldn't count as 1 full paragraph. Come on, at best it's WP:OVERKILL and worst it's WP:CHERRYPICKING. Citing the Talk:Bharatiya Janata Party#The Political Position of the BJP, doesn't help, reading that back and forth, it screams of pushing a specific narrative WP:NPOVD.
To be clear, I don't disagree with the general findings but just pick one or two sources, preferably academic (PhD political scientist is best) in nature so they stand up longer over time. Also, please lose the loaded phrase "radical right" unless you wanna put an Efn on it.
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Some one has written Mulayam Singh youth brigade in front of युवा शाखा in the Hindi version of article. Please remove Mulayam Singh youth brigade from the front of युवा शाखा in the right hand side box. Dhairya Sirohi (talk) 15:25, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
I don't think it matters how the parties' positions compare to parties outside of the country, given the precedent set in Talk:Democratic Party (United States), the party's position as viewed from the perspective of people in the country is what matters more than how it sits on the international stage. Hence why the Democratic Party are listed as center-left while being to the right of most other centre-left parties in the world and particularly in Europe. Same goes for CHP in Turkey being to the right of parties like, say, Place Publique, but is still listed with the same position. TheTajik (talk) 22:29, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
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Instead of directly stating that India is being backsliding since 2014 under bjp government,it should be clearly mentioned to the readers that "according to V-dem democratic indices India is backsliding under bjp government since 2014" or else it is better to delete that line to avoid multiple baseless controversies 103.151.209.76 (talk) 05:12, 21 August 2024 (UTC)
Hello top contributors. The current status of this article does not meet GA status, also has got a maintenance tag. If you look at the version when it was promoted, here, it was in a much better form. Please consider improving it. Let me know if any help is required. Thanks in advance.-25 CENTS VICTORIOUS12:59, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
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