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== Ronnie del Carmen as co-director? ==

In its current state, this article claims that Pete Docter was the only director of ''Inside Out'', with Ronnie del Carmen helping develop the story. I believe this is incorrect, and I think del Carmen should be identified as co-director as well.

Many, if not most, of the references in this article describe Ronnie del Carmen as co-director (or if you're the , 'secondary director'): for example, , , and the . (and thus ) and both list del Carmen as co-director. So do the and the .

I decided to look for information straight from the horse's mouth and found on Pixar's official website, which names del Carmen as a co-director; so does the caption of on Pixar's Instagram account. I couldn't find anything on Disney's website and I couldn't bring myself to search through their entire Instagram account. I checked the credits of the film as well, which read "Director | Pete Docter" and then "Co-director | Ronnie del Carmen". (Additionally, on Ronnie del Carmen's (X?), which I'm 99.999% sure is legitimate, he describes himself as co-director.)

I wonder if del Carmen was initially left out because and {{nbsp}}{{ndash}} and probably some other miscellaneous articles{{nbsp}}{{ndash}} state that Docter alone was the director, but at the end of the day, it doesn't really matter why. For the reasons stated above, I think del Carmen should be explicitly named as co-director, if only for the sake of consistency within Misplaced Pages itself (as ] states he "co-directed and was one of the story writers for the 2015 Pixar film ''Inside Out''").

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I also just noticed that the ] for the film says Docter was the only director. The ] says Docter was director and del Carmen was co-director. I then had a look at the Misplaced Pages pages for other Pixar films which are stated to have had a co-director on ]{{nbsp}}{{ndash}} excluding ''Ratatouille'', since that was a change of director. Three of them (''Cars'', ''Monsters, Inc.'', and ''Finding Dory'') only mention the co-directors later in the article; the rest (''A Bug's Life'', ''Toy Story 2'', ''Finding Nemo'', ''Up'', ''Cars 2'', ''Brave'', ''Coco'', and ''Soul'') name the co-directors immediately after the "main" directors. Of those in the latter category, ''Brave'' was the only one to list multiple directors in the sidebar/panel. Since most of them list co-directors early on, I'm inclined to do the same in this article; I'm still not sure about the sidebar, though.

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Can someone post the Inside Out teaser trailer here?

There is currently only one trailer out and it is a teaser trailer. I was wondering if someone could legally post it here on Wikipeida. That would be great. Greshthegreat (talk) 21:38, 8 December 2014 (UTC)


Similarities with the "Brain Divided" animated short?

It seems that as soon as the teasers for Inside Out came out, people began comparing it to the "Brain Divided" short from 2013, which can be seen here. Does anyone know if any important publication has mentioned the extreme similarity in order to include that here? Cancerbero 8 (talk) 15:48, 11 December 2014 (UTC)

The trope of little people personifying emotions is not new. Disney's done it at least twice in the last couple of decades: the former Cranium Command attraction at Epcot and the TV series "Herman's Head" (produced by Touchstone Television, a Disney subsidiary). There was a cartoon short back in the mid 20th century that had people governed by two people, named "Reason" (depicted as prim and proper) and "Emotion" (depicted as a caveman/woman). So while there may be similarities to a degree, it's a very common presentation. --McDoobAU93 16:30, 11 December 2014 (UTC)

Infinity 3.0 mention

someone should put Disney Infinity 3.0 on this since the characters are going to appear in that. Visokor (talk) 18:09, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

Not a Disney animated feature canon

This film is not a Disney animated feature canon. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 177.65.173.217 (talk) 03:32, 10 June 2015 (UTC)

Okay. Does the article say that is? I don't see it. Reach Out to the Truth 04:27, 10 June 2015 (UTC)

Box office

Under the "Reception" ---> "Box office" section it says:

"Inside Out is expected by analysts to become a commercial success upon its release—they predict the film will bring in $250 million solely from domestic ticket sales."

Am I wrong, or is Misplaced Pages not a "crystal ball"? If the news sources want to make predictions, they are obviously welcome, but Misplaced Pages doesn't include those predictions, do they? 2601:7:7F02:17C0:FDF8:2C53:4776:C633 (talk) 03:17, 10 June 2015 (UTC)

I don't feel as though a projected sales figure serves a Reception section before the release either. 2600:100E:B124:C205:453B:9594:DF98:F178 (talk) 00:08, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

Critical Response

"The film has so far received significant acclaim from critics and film festival attendees. The review aggregator website Rotten Tomatoes lists a 100% approval rating, based on 28 reviews, with a rating average of 8.9/10." If the first sentence says what the second sentence does, it is redundant. If it says something other than what the second sentence says, it is original research. If it combines what the second sentence says with the Metacritic bit that follows, it is synthesis.

TL;DR version: The first sentence is pointless. - SummerPhD 04:30, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

Incomplete Plot

The plot seems to be incomplete, or missing some parts — Preceding unsigned comment added by 181.28.189.227 (talk) 18:04, 15 June 2015 (UTC)

Yeah, it ends with "fall into the abyss", though I feel Pixar would never think it's necessary to kill off these characters. Definitely incomplete. - Theironminer (talk) 04:57, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

Is Inside Out a fantasy-comedy or comedy film?

I suppose fantasy-comedy is more appropriate. What do you guys think? Saul Grant (talk) 08:55, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

video games section?

should there be a video games section? I mean, as mentioned before the emotions will be playable characters in Disney Infinity 3.0. Also, there's a Puzzle Bobble/Bust-a-Move style app called Inside Out: Thought Bubbles availableVisokor (talk) 12:59, 3 July 2015 (UTC)

See also = "reminds me of..."

So far, we have two entries for items where elements of personality/emotions are portrayed as individual characters. IMO, we will need limits here, as this is a fairly common device. I'd say the section should be limited to A) links that would be in a fully-developed article (they'll already be in the article, at this point, so that's none) and B) "similar" books/TV shows/movies/songs/operas/knock knock jokes/etc. discussed in reliable sources as being the same idea.

Personally, I don't particularly care that a film critic mentioned another story in reviewing this (or any) film. I don't think that tells us anything about this film. Release a scifi film after 1977 and someone will mention Star Wars in a review. Blended family with lots of kids? Oh, it's the Brady Bunch. Sitcom with twenty-somethings? It's Friends! That said, sources discussing Star Trek: The Motion Picture or Mad TV at any length will make substantial comparisons to Star Wars or Saturday Night Live and those comparisons should be in the main body of the article. - SummerPhD 23:37, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

As there has been a lot of activity on the article, but no discussion here, I'm going to restore my edit. - SummerPhD 13:51, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
Sorry - missed this talk topic. I think I may have removed one of the see also links a week or so ago, but when it got added back I decided to wait to see how others felt about it. I'm not sure I agree that every mention by a critic carries the same (zero) weight, but I also don't want to open up the "see also" section to an indiscriminate collection of works with only passing similarities. I'm fine with just covering the notable items in prose. --Fru1tbat (talk) 15:51, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
What? No mention of "The Numskulls"? That was a great cartoon strip. Lance Tyrell 2.101.150.177 (talk) 21:58, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
I undid your delete of the See also section since at least 2 of the entries are relevant: Cranium Command, a former Epcot (i.e. Disney) theme park attraction, and Reason and Emotion, an earlier similar Disney film. 93.95.251.162 (talk) 11:39, 5 August 2015 (UTC) Martin.
Are there reliable sources discussing the similarity of these or is this your opinion? - SummerPhD 12:37, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
I think the 6 or 7 articles in the "see also" section of late were probably too many, but the MOS guideline does not require independent discussion in reliable sources: WP:SEEALSO says: Whether a link belongs in the "See also" section is ultimately a matter of editorial judgment and common sense. The links in the "See also" section should be relevant, should reflect the links that would be present in a comprehensive article on the topic, and should be limited to a reasonable number. is also not mandatory I think there is enough flexibility there to include a few links of similar concepts, but as there are obviously a lot of articles that could be considered similar, maybe it's better just to omit the section entirely rather than limit the list arbitrarily.
Also, to the IP's comment above, the fact that those two articles are Disney-related does not necessarily make them any more worthy of inclusion than any other, in my opinion. Your phrase "eerily similar" could be interpreted as a suggestion of influence, and that would need to be sourced.
--Fru1tbat (talk) 13:39, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
Thanks, Fru1tbat. I think you're on the money when you say "as there are obviously a lot of articles that could be considered similar, maybe it's better just to omit the section entirely rather than limit the list arbitrarily". There are just too many stories with a similar concept behind them. Popcornduff (talk) 14:00, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
I would agree ... that section would be ripe for abuse as editors try to add properties that, in their personal opinion, are similar to Inside Out. Let's let the readers decide if Herman's Head and Inside Out are similar. --McDoobAU93 14:08, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

"universal critical acclaim"

The word "universal" means everyone everywhere. "Universal critical acclaim" would mean every critic everywhere loved it. Rotten Tomatoes says 98% of the critics they use gave it a positive review. Rather than every critic everywhere loved it, we have most critics used by RT thought it was somewhere between average and the best film ever made. - SummerPhD 15:00, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

Yep. Popcornduff (talk) 17:43, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
Strictly speaking, perhaps. Metacritic's usage appears to disagree, though, and M-W does provide an alternate definition that's somewhat more broad. That's a bit beside the point, though – if the word "universal" is the problem, change it to "broad" or "widespread". If there's another reason, it should be stated (preferably in a hidden comment). I'm not sure disagreeing with the scope of the adjective is a good reason to remove the sentence entirely. --Fru1tbat (talk) 18:31, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
You don't even need to use modifiers like "widespread" at all. Just "critical acclaim" suffices. Popcornduff (talk) 20:58, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
I tend to not care for summaries of critical response as they tend to require some interpretation anyway and the aggregator totals are already summaries. Why summarize something that's already a summary? When you try to make sense of aggregator totals that do not agree, you wind up with crap like "mixed to positive". "Universal" is obvious hyperbole. After all, the universe is a big place. Infinite, maybe. And even if both aggregators were in agreement, this still represents an opinion and should not be presented as fact. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 23:33, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

Reviews

Apparently this movie has only been seen by American critics. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.238.167.214 (talk) 03:50, 26 September 2015 (UTC)

99.238.167.214 Your point being...? If you have a problem with the coverage of the critical response, go find some non-American critics from reliable sources and add them. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 04:04, 26 September 2015 (UTC)
If you're in charge of the article, why don't you do it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.238.167.214 (talk) 04:16, 27 September 2015 (UTC)
99.238.167.214 Nobody is "in charge" of the article. This is a volunteer project and anyone can contribute so long as they are editing in keeping with community standards. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 23:17, 27 September 2015 (UTC)

in norway it never reached cinamas

it was an unknown movie in norway until its bly-ray release so, it got no box office income here.84.212.73.96 (talk) 14:22, 12 December 2015 (UTC)

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Can I make the Inside Out 2 page?

As long I added the source, then that might be good. Stephenfisher2001 (talk) 01:51, 10 September 2022 (UTC)

UPDATE: The page I made is created, and I added the sources: https://en.wikipedia.org/Inside_Out_2 --Stephenfisher2001 (talk) 02:23, 10 September 2022 (UTC)

Sections need to be reworded

Hello! So as I was reading through the article, I noticed some things that weren't exactly all that clear. I didn't want to put a maintenance tag on the article as it's currently rated as a Good Article and I don't think some minor things such as odd wording choices should have to bring it down from GA. ― Blaze The WolfBlaze Wolf#6545 16:01, 24 September 2021 (UTC)


I definitely agree - reading through is a disaster. I would recommend flagging. Sentences are not clear and some are entirely nonsensical throughout.

If the senteces differ from this version, I would recommend to restore them instead. (CC) Tbhotch 04:26, 1 October 2021 (UTC)

Most of this article reads like it was originally written in another language and (poorly) translated into English. Faludi-fallout (talk) 02:28, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

This. Very much this. It could be a great article, errors and infelicitious word choice greatly interfere. I think with a little work you can understand most of it, and some of it's just fine, but parts of it are unintelligible and almost all of it needs tweaking or correcting. --Cromwellt|talk|contribs 00:27:30, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

This article is pretty much unreadable, easily the worst that I have seen on such a popular subject. I see that it is mostly because of one user who has been obsessively making thousands of edits for a year or so... could it just be reverted to before they started contributing? EgyptianSushi (talk) 19:13, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

Just want to add yet another opinion that this article is really disappointing, for both a Good Article and a great film. To pick just one example of writing that could use improvement: "Fear was inspired by Don Knotts. According to Lozano, Knotts had wide eyes. Docter said, " was the kind of guy who could bring sophistication and then flip on a dime". Bill Hader was cast as Fear after he and the filmmakers visited the set of SNL in New York City for a week, and also assisted at the story room. His casting was assumed until his stay ended, but he asked to contact fellow SNL veteran Poehler that it was secret. Hader later reaffirmed his involvement in Inside Out. In preparation for his role, he worked out to " almost every emotion" and practiced his screaming voice across all recording sessions." Orser67 (talk) 04:21, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
Per comment above, as well as the comments of others in this section, I'm adding Template:Copy edit to the article. Orser67 (talk) 04:21, 29 August 2023 (UTC)

Proposed structural changes

I agree that the article as a whole is in dire need of a copy edit, what with all the non-sequiturs, superfluous details, and strange turns of phrase (my favourite sentence so far is "Docter came to find that storyline nonfunctional, and was reluctant to be fired." Perhaps I'm simply being stupid, but I have absolutely no idea what that's even supposed to mean). I think Faludi-fallout hit the nail on the head when they said it reads like it was poorly translated into English, and I mean to go through and clean up the prose when I have the time. The clunky wording also means some parts (see: "DreamWorks Animation's competition with Pixar was disappointingly lacking") sound too opinionated to me, and need to be reworded to sound more neutral.

I'd also like to draw attention to the issues I hold with the article's current structure. Most prominently, I think the #Post-release section is unnecessary and that its subsections should be relocated to other places in the article: I'd move "Home media" and "Lawsuits" to #Release, "Other media" to #Legacy, and "Thematic analaysis" to #Reception (I'm as yet undecided on whether it deserves its own section).

Additionally, the subsection "Context" feels strange, even disregarding the nonsensical prose. IMO it's far more focused on the zeitgeist in the film industry than the film itself, and it's only tangentially related as a result. I don't see what the prevalence of sequels of other IPs has to to with Inside Out, for example. At the very least, I'd recommend condensing it to a sentence or two about how the film was expected to earn over $200 million, and move that into "Box office". Those are the major issues I have, though I'm sure more will pop up. GulfOfPerdition (talk) 16:18, 3 September 2023 (UTC)

Upon further consideration, I think lawsuits should be under #Reception. GulfOfPerdition (talk) 19:05, 3 September 2023 (UTC)

Ronnie del Carmen as co-director?

In its current state, this article claims that Pete Docter was the only director of Inside Out, with Ronnie del Carmen helping develop the story. I believe this is incorrect, and I think del Carmen should be identified as co-director as well.

Many, if not most, of the references in this article describe Ronnie del Carmen as co-director (or if you're the New York Times, 'secondary director'): for example, Lifestyle Inquirer, Rappler, and the Hollywood Reporter. IMDb (and thus Box Office Mojo) and Metacritic both list del Carmen as co-director. So do the British Film Institute and the American Film Institute.

I decided to look for information straight from the horse's mouth and found this page on Pixar's official website, which names del Carmen as a co-director; so does the caption of this photo on Pixar's Instagram account. I couldn't find anything on Disney's website and I couldn't bring myself to search through their entire Instagram account. I checked the credits of the film as well, which read "Director | Pete Docter" and then "Co-director | Ronnie del Carmen". (Additionally, on Ronnie del Carmen's Twitter (X?), which I'm 99.999% sure is legitimate, he describes himself as co-director.)

I wonder if del Carmen was initially left out because Rotten Tomatoes and ScreenRant – and probably some other miscellaneous articles – state that Docter alone was the director, but at the end of the day, it doesn't really matter why. For the reasons stated above, I think del Carmen should be explicitly named as co-director, if only for the sake of consistency within Misplaced Pages itself (as his page states he "co-directed and was one of the story writers for the 2015 Pixar film Inside Out").

Edit

I also just noticed that the list of accolades for the film says Docter was the only director. The list of Pixar films says Docter was director and del Carmen was co-director. I then had a look at the Misplaced Pages pages for other Pixar films which are stated to have had a co-director on this list of Pixar films – excluding Ratatouille, since that was a change of director. Three of them (Cars, Monsters, Inc., and Finding Dory) only mention the co-directors later in the article; the rest (A Bug's Life, Toy Story 2, Finding Nemo, Up, Cars 2, Brave, Coco, and Soul) name the co-directors immediately after the "main" directors. Of those in the latter category, Brave was the only one to list multiple directors in the sidebar/panel. Since most of them list co-directors early on, I'm inclined to do the same in this article; I'm still not sure about the sidebar, though.

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