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*'''Keep''' A Misplaced Pages article with minimal citations but clear notability. Deletion of notable Misplaced Pages pages because of fewer citations can set a dangerous precedent. ] (]) 08:14, 16 December 2024 (UTC) | *'''Keep''' A Misplaced Pages article with minimal citations but clear notability. Deletion of notable Misplaced Pages pages because of fewer citations can set a dangerous precedent. ] (]) 08:14, 16 December 2024 (UTC) | ||
*:It looks to me like there are plenty of citations, but many of them are weak in terms of reliability and are not independent of Jimmy Rex. ]] 15:20, 16 December 2024 (UTC) | *:It looks to me like there are plenty of citations, but many of them are weak in terms of reliability and are not independent of Jimmy Rex. ]] 15:20, 16 December 2024 (UTC) | ||
*'''Keep'''. From what I see I believe the Misplaced Pages article is notable. The creating editor seems naive so I think it is creator issue, not a notability issue. Keep and improve. ] (]) 18:41, 16 December 2024 (UTC) |
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Total promo nonsense article, sourced to passing mentions with nothing meaningful in the way of actual coverage - and the only mentions of Rex are again, in passing, if even that. GRINCHIDICAE🎄 19:46, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- Dont label an article that I spent my time and effort working on nonsense. Talk to me with respect. Cokeandbread (talk) 20:04, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- Weak delete: I was asked to review this article earlier. I tagged it as relying too heavily on primary sources. It seems like with how long this person has been around and the circles they trade in it would be easy for him to be notable by some metric, but his projects and interviews have no independent coverage and there's little to nothing I could find that discusses him in an impartial way. Reconrabbit 20:24, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks man. Cokeandbread (talk) 21:59, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Authors and Utah. Shellwood (talk) 20:55, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: I created the page so let me explain why. I will start like this.
- In the early days of Instagram verification, before Instagram gave out verification, they didnt know how to select who was worthy of being verified and why those people were worthy and others were not. So they found a solution. One of the criteria they used to determine if someone was notable to be verified was to check out the number of DMs said person from other verified accounts. Getting DMs from verified accounts meant you were notable too. E.g an obscure music producer getting DMs from different big musicians meant he was notable even though he wasnt famous. Afterall some notable people work behind the scenes. Jimmy Rex's Show have had some great people on the podcast. In Misplaced Pages we call those "associates". Lots of people who have Misplaced Pages articles have been guests at his show. A non notable podcaster wont pull notable guests to his podcast.
- There is something else I should point out. There was a debate about Giannis Antetokounmpo, and how his opening sentence should be worded. The bone of contention was whether he should be labeled as a Greek or a Nigerian-Greek. What put that argument to rest was a video from YouTube. In the video he said that he represents both Nigeria and Greece. These are the scenarios when Youtube videos can be employed. In Jimmy Rex's case, these notable guests are talking by themselves for themselves. You watch the video and see them. It is verifiable. When you say primary source, do you know that you mean that the words are coming from Jimmy Rex's mouth? And in this case, are they? Cokeandbread (talk) 21:58, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- Please read what WP:SOURCING is, because I'm not going to explain it to you. It details the different types and the fact that your article is a raging advertisement sourced to blackhat SEO doesn't help. GRINCHIDICAE🎄 22:05, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- Please read WP:YOUTUBE-EL.
- And about SEO blackhatting, you are simply projecting, because I never had the intention for such. Cokeandbread (talk) 22:11, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- Please explain how I am projecting? What does that mean? GRINCHIDICAE🎄 22:12, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- Here are some signs that you might be projecting onto me:
- • You make assumptions about my intentions. With no good faith.
- • You accuse me of doing something that you yourself might be guilty of.
- • You seem overly sensitive to my words or actions, as if you’re taking them personally. Cokeandbread (talk) 22:27, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- Define projecting. Cause this isn't it. GRINCHIDICAE🎄 22:33, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- I dont have time for this. Cokeandbread (talk) 22:48, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- Define projecting. Cause this isn't it. GRINCHIDICAE🎄 22:33, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- Please explain how I am projecting? What does that mean? GRINCHIDICAE🎄 22:12, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- Please read what WP:SOURCING is, because I'm not going to explain it to you. It details the different types and the fact that your article is a raging advertisement sourced to blackhat SEO doesn't help. GRINCHIDICAE🎄 22:05, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Actors and filmmakers, Radio, and Politics. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 22:43, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. Not seeing in-depth independent coverage in reliable sources. Fails WP:GNG. A ref-bombed promo article, most likely COI/paid editing. Edwardx (talk) 23:34, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- When I created the article, I wrote a sub section about his controversy and I was asked to remove it because it was negative. Now, the article seems like a promo because it is too nice? Okay.
- Also Read WP:YOUTUBE-EL. Cokeandbread (talk) 00:21, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- I recommended that the controversy section be removed because controversy sections are generally a poor idea, especially on a biography of a living person. Vice News was not a strong enough source to justify it. Reconrabbit 15:20, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete Every single source is either a passing mention, not independent of the subject, or about a different subject entirely (referring to one of his guests). Plus, there is WP:TRIVIA being used to puff up the citations list: Guatemala is one of his favorite travel destinations? An NBA star crashed one of his parties? Who TF cares. Not notable. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 23:36, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- Keep A Misplaced Pages article with minimal citations but clear notability. Deletion of notable Misplaced Pages pages because of fewer citations can set a dangerous precedent. Gracefoundme (talk) 08:14, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- It looks to me like there are plenty of citations, but many of them are weak in terms of reliability and are not independent of Jimmy Rex. Reconrabbit 15:20, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. From what I see I believe the Misplaced Pages article is notable. The creating editor seems naive so I think it is creator issue, not a notability issue. Keep and improve. Wallclockticking (talk) 18:41, 16 December 2024 (UTC)