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:::'''ALT3a''' ... that lacrosse player ''']''' and his brother ''']''' both went undefeated while playing for the ]? | :::'''ALT3a''' ... that lacrosse player ''']''' and his brother ''']''' both went undefeated while playing for the ]? | ||
:::'''ALT4''' ... that ''']''' was the ]' first ever draft pick? | :::'''ALT4''' ... that ''']''' was the ]' first ever draft pick? | ||
] does not appear to qualify for DYK (too old), and I can't find where the first ever draft pick is stated in the article, so let's just go with ] '''ALT3'''. ] ] 20:19, 19 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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Austin Staats
( )- ... that lacrosse player Austin Staats' contract was suspended after he bit another player's finger?
- ALT1: ... that lacrosse player Austin Staats received a 7 game suspension for being a sore loser? Source: https://www.timesunion.com/sports/article/san-diego-player-gets-7-game-suspension-incident-19451876.php
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- Comment: ALT1 might be too disparaging. Idk, happy to receive input.
SammySpartan (talk) 23:16, 18 November 2024 (UTC).
- I don't think either hook would meet WP:DYKBLP given their negative tone and their arguably undue focus. A different angle is needed here. Maybe:
- ALT2 ... that lacrosse player Austin Staats works part-time as a firefighter?
- I understand that it's actually common for professional lacrosse players to have other jobs, but that knowledge may not be common to most readers and thus may still be considered intriguing or unusual. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 15:01, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
- I guess as a lacrosse fan, what's notable to me about him has been his anger issues on and off the field, but I totally get the need to be neutral. ALT2 works for me. SammySpartan (talk) 17:30, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
- Article is new enough and long enough.
- No copyright issues found
- daillycaller.com does not appear to be a WP:RS, despite their claim that "Real News Starts Here".
- Both ALT0 and ALT1 fail WP:DYKBLP ("Hooks that unduly focus on negative aspects of living persons should be avoided") and ALT2 is not interesting. So we need to find some better hooks.
- RoySmith (talk) 20:42, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- I didn't even notice that the article cites the Daily Caller. It's deprecated, so that reference will have to go (and also the part in question if a better source can't be found). Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:57, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- @SammySpartan: Pinging regarding the issues raised above. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:42, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- I've removed the deprecated source, and have suggested some alts below.
- ALT3 ... that lacrosse player Austin Staats went undefeated in his college career?
- ALT3a ... that lacrosse player Austin Staats and his brother Randy Staats both went undefeated while playing for the Onondaga Community College Lazers?
- ALT4 ... that Austin Staats was the San Diego Seals' first ever draft pick?
- I didn't even notice that the article cites the Daily Caller. It's deprecated, so that reference will have to go (and also the part in question if a better source can't be found). Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:57, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
Randy Staats does not appear to qualify for DYK (too old), and I can't find where the first ever draft pick is stated in the article, so let's just go with ALT3. RoySmith (talk) 20:19, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
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