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:], you claim to know the content of a deleted article that you cannot see, and you say '''''we''' are currently in the process of editing the article to ensure it aligns with these standards''. You have an obvious ], please read ] (sources that are not acceptable include those linked to the person or an associated organisation, press releases, YouTube, IMDB, social media and other sites that can be self-edited, blogs, websites of unknown or non-reliable provenance, and sites that are just reporting what the person claims or interviewing them), the ], ] (articles must be neutral and encyclopaedic, with verifiable facts, not opinions or reviews) and ]. I note that your supposed refs include an interview with him and his own magazine, how are these independent third-party sources as we require here? If any new version appears that is non-compliant with our rules, I'll delete it and consider blocking the creator. ] - ] 06:26, 20 December 2024 (UTC) :], you claim to know the content of a deleted article that you cannot see, and you say '''''we''' are currently in the process of editing the article to ensure it aligns with these standards''. You have an obvious ], please read ] (sources that are not acceptable include those linked to the person or an associated organisation, press releases, YouTube, IMDB, social media and other sites that can be self-edited, blogs, websites of unknown or non-reliable provenance, and sites that are just reporting what the person claims or interviewing them), the ], ] (articles must be neutral and encyclopaedic, with verifiable facts, not opinions or reviews) and ]. I note that your supposed refs include an interview with him and his own magazine, how are these independent third-party sources as we require here? If any new version appears that is non-compliant with our rules, I'll delete it and consider blocking the creator. ] - ] 06:26, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
::@]Thank you for your response, and I appreciate your dedication to maintaining Misplaced Pages’s high standards.
::I’d like to clarify a few points regarding my involvement:
::My Role: I am not the creator or editor of the deleted article. I represent Derek Warburton in a professional capacity and was made aware of the deletion by others. My intention in reaching out is to understand the concerns that led to the deletion and explore how the content might be improved or reinstated in line with Misplaced Pages’s guidelines.
::Conflict of Interest: I fully acknowledge and respect Misplaced Pages’s Conflict of Interest (COI) policy. As Derek Warburton’s representative, my intention is not to edit or recreate the article myself but to ensure that accurate, verifiable, and neutral information is available to support its potential inclusion.
::Sources and Compliance: I understand the need for independent, reliable third-party sources and neutrality. Derek Warburton has been covered by publications such as Forbes, Elle Canada, and Flaunt Magazine, which I believe meet these standards. If necessary, we are happy to provide a full list of these sources for your review.
::'''My main objective is to ensure that any future article on Derek Warburton is fully compliant with Misplaced Pages’s policies. Could you advise on the best way to move forward? '''
::I understand the importance of relying on independent, reliable third-party sources. Going forward, I will ensure that the team references only notable publications excluding interviews, press releases, or any sources affiliated with Derek Warburton or his organizations.
::The primary goal is to ensure that any future article fully meets Misplaced Pages’s standards for neutrality and verifiability. I would greatly appreciate your guidance on how to proceed constructively. Would preparing a draft and submitting it through the Articles for Creation (AfC) process for community review be the appropriate next step? If there are other considerations or steps we should follow, I am happy to relay this to the team and ensure they are addressed.
::I sincerely apologize if my initial outreach caused any misunderstanding about my intentions. I fully respect Misplaced Pages’s guidelines and your authority in this matter. My goal is to address the issue constructively and ensure compliance moving forward.
::Thank you again for your time and insights. I look forward to your advice on how best to resolve this matter.
::Best regards, ] (]) 07:06, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

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Another Claesson sock

Found another likely Samuel Claesson sockpuppet at User:Sdhart1. AllTheUsernamesAreInUse (talk) 18:07, 14 December 2024 (UTC)

AllTheUsernamesAreInUse, thanks. Would you mind clarifying why this is a SC sock? I see a reference to Claesson added and removed, but I guess there's more to it than that Jimfbleak - talk to me? 11:06, 16 December 2024 (UTC)

Notice of noticeboard discussion

Information icon There is currently a discussion at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.El Beeblerino 22:23, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

That thread has gotten very long very quickly, so I just wanted to pop by here and say, first, thank you for your explanation and apology. And second, I did assume from the start that this was simply an error and not abuse of the block button. We've all been there. I've blocked the wrong person entirely once or twice.
My concern was much more to do with the two other admins who had to have seen the error but weren't doing anything about it and/or making the user wait as long as it took for you to be online to explain it, which I felt was completely unnecessary as, again, it was obviously an error. El Beeblerino 19:30, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
El Beeblerino thanks, that's pretty much as I read it, although, being Misplaced Pages, all sorts of distractions (it's not spam in a sandbox and such soon led to text inflation Jimfbleak - talk to me? 06:33, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

Sock notice

Dear Jim,

I just got a notification about being a sock. I am not a sock though, and I don't know why anyone would think that. What should I do?

Sincerely,

Sisvan Hart Sdhart1 (talk) 01:12, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

Sdhart1,if you look above, I've asked AllTheUsernamesAreInUse for clarification Jimfbleak - talk to me? 06:35, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
Sdhart has the same pattern of editing as almost all other accounts at Category:Misplaced Pages sockpuppets of Dbzsamuele (removing "invalid hyperlinks", adding sources) and also recreated the page Arthur Sheehan for the 5th time with identical material, hoping we wouldn't notice by slightly changing the title. AllTheUsernamesAreInUse (talk) 03:45, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
AllTheUsernamesAreInUse thanks, looks pretty clear-cut, will block Jimfbleak - talk to me? 06:25, 18 December 2024 (UTC)

COI workaround?

Hi Jim,

Got your message, thanks. First article attempt got deleted. Probably quite common. Still sad.

As you rightly mentioned, conflict of interest (COI) is the problem. Is there a workaround? Do I get someone else to write about me or are there more ways to just about keep article neutral enough for publication? Can I trouble you to have a look whether if it's worth my time requesting for a retrieval of the deleted content for another try? Thanks.

Cen2mftn Cen2mftn (talk) 01:13, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

Replied on user talk page Jimfbleak - talk to me? 09:06, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

Io Saturnalia!

Io, Saturnalia!
Wishing you and yours a Happy Holiday Season, from the horse and bishop person. May the year ahead be productive and distraction-free. Ealdgyth (talk) 15:14, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
Ealdgyth, many thanks and it's my birthday. Best wishes to you and yours and the horses, a bit late for the bishops though. Jimfbleak - talk to me? 16:04, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

NOTHERE user

This user edited the article about himself and added a family selfie - . Drew Stanley (talk) 18:42, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

Drew Stanley, thanks. I notice that the user concerned has not been warned or even welcomed, so I'm reluctant to block at this stage. I'll welcome and warn, then there are no excuses if he continues Jimfbleak - talk to me? 08:25, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
Drew Stanley, I've nominated the image for deletion at Commons Jimfbleak - talk to me? 08:29, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
Thanks jimDrew Stanley (talk) 18:57, 18 December 2024 (UTC)

Request for Review of Deletion of "Derek Warburton" Misplaced Pages Page

Dear Jimfbleak,

I hope you're doing well. I noticed that the Misplaced Pages page for Derek Warburton was recently deleted under the reason "G11: Unambiguous advertising or promotion." I believe the deletion may have been made in error, as I have reviewed the content of the article and would like to provide clarification regarding its notability. Derek Warburton has been covered extensively in independent, reliable sources such as:

  • Forbes: An interview discussing branding in the media and entertainment sectors. (Forbes)
  • Elle Canada: Featured for promoting international emerging designers. (Elle Canada)
  • Flaunt Magazine: Covered for launching a makeup line in collaboration with FACE Stockholm. (Flaunt)
  • Glamour Magazine: Featured for his philanthropic work encouraging self-love. (Derek Warburton Press)
  • Mr. Warburton Magazine: As the founder and editor-in-chief, showcasing art, fashion, and celebrity. (Mr. Warburton Magazine)

Furthermore, we understand the importance of adhering to Misplaced Pages's guidelines for neutrality and verifiability, and we are currently in the process of editing the article to ensure it aligns with these standards.

I would be grateful if you could review the article again, considering these improvements and the sources supporting his notability. If the article can be restored, I will continue to monitor and improve it to meet Misplaced Pages's guidelines. Thank you for your time and consideration. I look forward to hearing from you.

Best regards, Jenn Salmorin Jenn Salmorin (talk) 04:24, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

Jenn Salmorin, you claim to know the content of a deleted article that you cannot see, and you say we are currently in the process of editing the article to ensure it aligns with these standards. You have an obvious conflict of interest, please read independent verifiable sources (sources that are not acceptable include those linked to the person or an associated organisation, press releases, YouTube, IMDB, social media and other sites that can be self-edited, blogs, websites of unknown or non-reliable provenance, and sites that are just reporting what the person claims or interviewing them), the notability guidelines, promotion (articles must be neutral and encyclopaedic, with verifiable facts, not opinions or reviews) and paid editing. I note that your supposed refs include an interview with him and his own magazine, how are these independent third-party sources as we require here? If any new version appears that is non-compliant with our rules, I'll delete it and consider blocking the creator. Jimfbleak - talk to me? 06:26, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
@JimfbleakThank you for your response, and I appreciate your dedication to maintaining Misplaced Pages’s high standards.
I’d like to clarify a few points regarding my involvement:
My Role: I am not the creator or editor of the deleted article. I represent Derek Warburton in a professional capacity and was made aware of the deletion by others. My intention in reaching out is to understand the concerns that led to the deletion and explore how the content might be improved or reinstated in line with Misplaced Pages’s guidelines.
Conflict of Interest: I fully acknowledge and respect Misplaced Pages’s Conflict of Interest (COI) policy. As Derek Warburton’s representative, my intention is not to edit or recreate the article myself but to ensure that accurate, verifiable, and neutral information is available to support its potential inclusion.
Sources and Compliance: I understand the need for independent, reliable third-party sources and neutrality. Derek Warburton has been covered by publications such as Forbes, Elle Canada, and Flaunt Magazine, which I believe meet these standards. If necessary, we are happy to provide a full list of these sources for your review.
My main objective is to ensure that any future article on Derek Warburton is fully compliant with Misplaced Pages’s policies. Could you advise on the best way to move forward?
I understand the importance of relying on independent, reliable third-party sources. Going forward, I will ensure that the team references only notable publications excluding interviews, press releases, or any sources affiliated with Derek Warburton or his organizations.
The primary goal is to ensure that any future article fully meets Misplaced Pages’s standards for neutrality and verifiability. I would greatly appreciate your guidance on how to proceed constructively. Would preparing a draft and submitting it through the Articles for Creation (AfC) process for community review be the appropriate next step? If there are other considerations or steps we should follow, I am happy to relay this to the team and ensure they are addressed.
I sincerely apologize if my initial outreach caused any misunderstanding about my intentions. I fully respect Misplaced Pages’s guidelines and your authority in this matter. My goal is to address the issue constructively and ensure compliance moving forward.
Thank you again for your time and insights. I look forward to your advice on how best to resolve this matter.
Best regards, Jenn Salmorin (talk) 07:06, 20 December 2024 (UTC)