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| :::::I noticed the minor changes but that's far from good enough (this is much closer to a direct copy than even a ]) and I hope not representative of your edits elsewhere. But those stats aren't needed at all, even if reworded. I'd hope the lead can get into some extra facts about the restaurants themselves, one example could be noting that ] is the chef for three of them. ]<sup>]</sup> 21:38, 25 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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- Nominator(s): Expandinglight5 (talk) 00:26, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
I am nominating this for featured list because the list is well-organized, follows the style guide set by the task force and closely resembles the List of Michelin-starred restaurants in Mexico which has achieved FL status. Expandinglight5 (talk) 00:26, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
- It's weird how little of the lead is directly about the DC list. The Mexico list has similarly little but at least has the local context as the second paragraph, but this doesn't get to the list's actual topic until the third, and there's still not a lot of summarization. What else can you tell me in the lead about these restaurants? Can you also mention that the local tourism board has to pay for the guide to be made? Reywas92 05:28, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
- I formatted the article starting with the history of the guide and then moving into the specific content about Washington, D.C. which leads into the list. I've added some content about background of the dining scene in D.C. Adding content about Michelin charging the local tourism boards seems more like content belonging to the Michelin Guide page rather than the specific list for the region. Thoughts?
- Expandinglight5 (talk) 20:01, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
- An article should include background, but you shouldn't have to get to the third paragraph before the present article is introduced. Presumably anyone who gets to this article already knows what the Michelin guide is. It should really start with at least saying there are 26 current starred restaurants, then get into the background – one reason besides just getting to the point is that the preview ought to show page-specific information, not the generic content that may be duplicate across the set. Apparently the tourism board wasn't involved here like in other cities, but still has good DC-specific info that could absolutely be in the article – anything relevant to this particular guide and its listings can be included.
- I think the statistics with the exact populations and income levels aren't necessary though – that's conceptual background with unnecessary specificity rather than about DC's starred restaurants. You added nothing that further introduces this list's content. But I also see that you literally just copied and pasted this paragraph from the souce, which in turn quoted from the DC Policy Center, albeit with quotation marks. That's a copyright violation and honestly embarrassing. Reywas92 21:18, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
- The tourism boards come into play as Michelin expands into smaller markets, typically ones that historically were not large enough to support printed publication. It isn't clear if the tourism board for Washington, D.C. is involved today in keeping the reviews continuing to exist given the fact North American regions are no longer in publication.
- The content regarding populations and incomes aren't a direct copy and paste and minor revisions were made from the original content. I will edit it further if there is concern over copyright violation.
- Thank you for the feedback on background and suggested order. I'll make subsequent edits.
- Expandinglight5 (talk) 21:28, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
- I noticed the minor changes but that's far from good enough (this is much closer to a direct copy than even a WP:Close paraphrase) and I hope not representative of your edits elsewhere. But those stats aren't needed at all, even if reworded. I'd hope the lead can get into some extra facts about the restaurants themselves, one example could be noting that Aaron Silverman is the chef for three of them. Reywas92 21:38, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
- Prose and image review:
- Well, the image caption is incorrect; it's not Washington, D.C.-based as the lede states.
- Since the list is sortable, you should link all the mentions of each cuisine, not just its first mention by default. (It also might be useful to explain what "contemporary cuisine" means, potentially as a footnote as its def. less self-explanatory than the rest)
- Image is correctly licensed and appropriate
- Agree with what Reywas said above; also perhaps a sentence or two of independent information about the D.C. cuisine scene overall could be nice.
- That's all from me! Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 05:37, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for the feedback. I've addressed the caption on the image as well as the cuisine links. I'll add additional content regarding Michelin as well as the dining scene Expandinglight5 (talk) 19:04, 25 December 2024 (UTC)