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I am a University of Puget Sound student who hoped to improve Misplaced Pages with thoughtful improvements to their articles. |
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My first contribution to an article (C++) was faced with extreme administrator retaliation, and a warning that I would be blocked. |
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I am currently blocked for editing my own talk page. |
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==April 2007== |
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===C++=== |
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{{{icon|]}}}This is your '''last warning'''. The next time you ] Misplaced Pages{{{{{subst|}}}#if:C++|, as you did to ]}}, you will be ] from editing. {{{{{subst|}}}#if:{{{2|}}}|{{{2}}}|}}<!-- Template:uw-vandalism4 --> --] 16:42, 27 April 2007 (UTC) |
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===Your edits to User:Yamla and User talk:Yamla=== |
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It seems that Yamla thought your edit was vandalism. If he was mistaken, you can tell him so without demanding that he resign as an admin. I have already moved your comment from his user page to the bottom of the user talk page, where by convention we add comments. If you care about this edit you made, please discuss it civilly. Also, please do not remove messages from your talk page. These can be archived if they get too long, but removing them seems unhelpful. Thanks, --] 17:28, 27 April 2007 (UTC) |
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You said: "I don't understand why you feel it is necessary to threaten new users, hoping to be constructive to the Misplaced Pages community, in such a manner. I was not "vandalizing" the C++ page, and I'm not even sure how this idea came to you. Just because you want to perpetuate this self-image of being this "champion of anti-vandalism" doesn't mean you need to resort to Mcarthiest tactics to boost your ego. Think about your job as an administrator. your job to the community. you are a SERVANT of Misplaced Pages, and as a benevolent administrator you should seek to be kind and constructive whenever possible, not a power hungry, threatening little man hiding behind a computer screen. As an administrator, you have power, and that power should NEVER be abused to make you feel better about yourself, as you clearly were doing when issuing me a "final warning" when I never had a previous warning, and in fact did not even vandalize the site! My only intention was to make the C++ "Hello World" example more accurate for people interested in the language. As I have been coding in C++ for over 10 years, across embedded systems, from Windows to Linux to Solaris to operating systems themselves, I felt that my contribution to the article was both accurate, and would help users new to C++ by showing them a much more sane introductory program. If you don't feel the same way, feel free to discuss it with me, but don't just bitchslap me with a final warning and a threat. That just reeks of self-indulgence through a power trip, which is a trait I feel is fatal to being a good administrator. Is there a way to vote that an administrator be stripped of his privileges? If so, please explain to me how I may go about doing so. Your actions show that you are clearly not worthy of this position. |
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Sincerely, |
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Peter Norvig." |
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:It appeared to me that your contribution to C++ was deliberate vandalism. Here's why. Your change converted a program that was correct according to the C++ standard to one that was not correct according to the standard. However, I do agree that it would work in all or almost all current compilers. You removed a line which had a comment specifically indicating that it should not be removed. And you removed a line that is specifically discussed in the article's discussion page. Furthermore, the reason I left a vandal4 templated warning was because there were previous warnings for vandalism from that address. As it is an IP address, though, these may well not have been targeted at you. Now, with all of that in mind, I believe it is reasonable to leave a vandal4 warning. Had there been no warnings on that talk page before, however, a vandal2 would have been more appropriate. Please understand that what I am trying to do here is to explain why I left the vandal4 warning. I am happy to discuss any part of this if you wish me to expand on it. If you still wish to have me stripped of my administrator privileges, let me know and I can explain about our dispute resolution procedure and point you in the right direction. --] 17:41, 27 April 2007 (UTC) |
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You said: "please don't just revert my change again. I did not just revert to my change. Instead, I reached a compromise that adheres to the C++ standard while avoiding the potentially damaging code in which ostream.h is included twice (once in iostream, once explicitly) without #ifndef checking, resulting in compilation errors. The new code still adheres to the standard by avoiding the use of the endl symbol, and instead making use of an escaped newline character." |
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:Your change does not address the fact that std::cout is only defined in ostream, not in iostream, according to the standard. Please rather than trying to alter the article away from established consensus, please discuss your change on the article's discussion page. Thanks. --] 19:56, 27 April 2007 (UTC) |
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::You meant the other way around; std::cout is declared only in <iostream>. 207.207.127.254's latest version of the "hello, world" program is non-standard because it makes use of std::ostream without it being defined. <iostream> may include <ostream>, or it may just ''declare'' std::ostream. The fact that he didn't use std::endl is irrelevant, as are his concerns about #ifndef checking and compilation errors. |
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===Removing content from talk pages=== |
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Please do not remove content from talk pages (even your own). It is unhelpful, and merely deleting the content on the talk page so that it appears blank does not remove it from past versions of the page, which can be viewed by any member at any time in the history tab. If you wish to clear your talk page, then please archive - you can see ] for help on how to do that. ] 19:32, 27 April 2007 (UTC) |
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:Note that this is not ''your'' talk page. If you want your own page, please register an account! If you aren't sure how to do that, please just ask. --] 19:54, 27 April 2007 (UTC) |
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===3RR=== |
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You are now in violation of ]. Any further edits to C++ will result in a block. Instead of edit-warring, please discuss the matter on the article's discussion page and try to build a consensus for your change, as I have already asked. Thanks. --] 20:21, 27 April 2007 (UTC) |
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{{{icon|]}}}This is your '''last warning'''. The next time you ] Misplaced Pages, as you did to ], you will be ] from editing. <!-- Template:uw-vandalism4 --> ] 17:33, 28 April 2007 (UTC) |
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You have been temporarily blocked for violation of the ]. Please feel free to return after the block expires, but also please make an effort to discuss your changes further in the future.</div><!-- Template:3RR5 --> ] 17:35, 28 April 2007 (UTC) |
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{{unblock reviewed|This must be a mistake. I looked at the "3RR" rule and haven't even edited three things in the last 24 hours, much less the same thing 3 times!|decline=Sorry, but since the anonymous editor at your university involved in this edit war last edited Misplaced Pages 12 minutes before your request for unblocking, I cannot in good faith remove this block. If you would like to edit Misplaced Pages before this block expires in 24 hours time, please email us as instructed on your "blocked" page using your @ups.edu email address and an account will be created for you in the meantime. -- <small><span style="border: 1px solid">]]</span></small> 17:59, 28 April 2007 (UTC)}} |
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