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Proposal

Hello. I saw that you are a member of the Templates project, and thought it would be good to bring this to your attention. I have made a proposal that would take care of the userbos issues and the general clutter of the Template namespace. Please see it here and make comments conserning it. Thank you for your time. SadanYagci 14:54, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Pound sterling

Thanks for the explanation of the revert. Hadn't looked at the infobox page properly - although in my defence, I did look at the Bank of England statistics and noticed that the value of issued £50 is greater than the value of £5, which I thought must count for something! GDallimore (Talk) 13:18, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

It's ok. So is the bank's figure in £ or the number of notes? If it's in £, then you would need to divide 10 for £50 to be fair. What constitutes "frequently" and "rarely" is sometimes still a subject of debate, despite the fact that I've tried very hard to lay out a well defined criteria. If you're still interested, see Talk:Swedish krona#Rarity, Talk:Euro#Rarely Used vs. Frequently Used, Talk:United States dollar#Rarity of $50 bill. --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 13:31, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Well, the number of notes £50 issued is far less than the number of £5 notes, but only about 8 to 9 times less, so the actual monetary amount of the £50 notes is slightly greater. I think the criteria are nicely defined and make a lot of sense, so I have no complaints. My only suggestion would be to use a different word that "rarely" in the infobox or to make the criteria more prominent to stop do-gooders like me making random edits :) GDallimore (Talk) 14:12, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

More categories to review

DRV, SFD, SFD. (Thank you last time.) - Privacy 18:26, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Template:Currencies of Oceania

I removed Template:Currencies of Oceania from Category:Circulating currencies beacuse of Ingrid’s concern voiced here. She was advocating removing templates from main namespace categories. Template:WorldCurrencies is the only currency template in the category because it contains templates that automatically link in to the category page (i.e. all pages with Temp:Currencies of Africa link to Cat:Circulating currencies). – Zntrip 03:12, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Nerver mind, I didn't see the removed line was in noinclude. I'm sorry about taking your time. --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 03:16, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Don’t worry, about it, it was not a waste of time. After all, “Time Is on My Side”. – Zntrip 03:19, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Re "Template and |"

Hi again Chochopk,

Do you have some automated way to turn something like

{{SomeTemplate |
a = b |
cde = fgh |
}}

to

{{SomeTemplate
| a = b
| cde = fgh
}}

I have been doing this manually, and would appreciate much if you share your secret!

No secret, really; it's either by copy-replace in a word processor, by hand, or I've sometimes managed to coax WP:AWB into making these sorts of edits, although not consistently. Hope you're enjoying more non-Misplaced Pages time!  Best wishes, David (talk) 03:58, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
PS Re that Navbox generic / Navigation templates thread somewhere, I meant to add that Navigation variants such as {{Navigation with columns}} would need converting into Navbox generic if Navbox generic were to become the standard. I haven't noticed any "official" discussion about Navigation vs. Navbox generic, however...

Template:Peso

Clever! One-place change that solves it all! --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 00:38, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

It wasn't my idea. It finally occurred to me to post to the help desk. I know it's usually for newbie questions, but I thought it wouldn't hurt to ask. Someone showed me that trick (which I still don't fully understand). Ingrid 13:14, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

With {{#if:{{NAMESPACE}}||]}}, {{NAMESPACE}} evaluates to "Talk" on an article talk page, it evaluates to blank on an article. #if: evaluates to true on non-empty string, and false on empty string. So ] would be present if {{NAMESPACE}} is blank. --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 03:19, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

DRV

Michael G. Davis 21:32, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Philippine piso

I know you're taking a well earned break but, when you "get back", please take a look at Philippine piso as we're going through a piso/peso debate. We really need to get ISO4217 off the style page. How do we go about doing that?
Dove1950 23:00, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Reflist question

I noticed that you went to all the trouble of changing the <div class="references-small"> style codes to {{Reflist|2}} type of codes. What is the difference?

Vala M 02:31, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Using {{reflist}} has some advanatage over <div class="references-small"><references/></div>

• It's shorter
• With {Reflist|2}}, the references are shown in 2 columns in Firefox, which reduces vertical scroll. But it doesn't work in IE.
• If people decide to change the style one day, replacing the existing style class="references-small", then they only need to update the template, not every article that uses it. --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 02:37, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

And nice name =) --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 02:39, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the explanation and info. Thanks for the compliment about my name! You have a very organized user page and user talk page. I love the blue on the talk page.

Vala M 13:12, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Circulating/Obsolete

Some of the templates still shows the old wording Current/Defunct like Template:Rupee, while some others have been updated to Circulating/Obsolete like Template:Dollar. What's the latest standard? --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 03:24, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

I was working through them, making sure I had all of them, correct capitalization, local names and alternate names. Other things (real life) came up, and I'm not quite done revising User:mom2jandk/List of currencies which will help me make sure everything's there. I'll try to get to it in the next couple of days. Sorry to leave it half-done. I'm still struggling to find balance with wikipedia and real life (wikipedia is usually much more fun than all the stuff I should be doing, like right now :) It reminds me though, I wanted to talk to you. That page in my user space doesn't list the countries, and all currency articles are referenced by their actual page name. So, related changes gives you a watchlist of currency articles. I thought you might find that helpful. Also, I want to create a template for the yen/yuan, and wondered if the hwan, wen, won, and/or yang should be included? And did you see that I created Template:Denominations to help check for consistency? Ingrid 16:32, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I can totally understand the pressure of real life. I am also busy on that too. No pressure =). The related change is a good idea, as the currency unit articles are the "core" articles of this project. Perhaps when the list is done, we can add the related change to the project home page. On yuan/yen, I have to tell you that wen and yang are *not* etymologically the same word as yuan/yen/won/hwan. Funny, 27 grams of 90% pure silver can be referred as so many names, yuan, yen, dollar, peso, and thaler. I did see Template:Denominations by accident. I think Template:Escudo can be deployed, as it is less complex than pound. Pound required more scrutiny and peer review, as it involves lira, livre, and libra (I believe there was a Mozambican libra at some point?). --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 22:24, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

ISO 4217

Thanks for editting the style guide. In my naivity, I though we had to go through some kind of formal process, hence my not having done it earlier. Can I suggest that the ISO 4217 name is added to the infobox template for those cases where it doesn't match the real name?
Dove1950 15:57, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

What about an "alternative unit" attribute? For Lebanese lira, it would be livre and pound. And also "alternative subunit" (qirsh v.s. piastre)? Where do you think these attributes should be placed (i.e. in between which and which row)? --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 19:58, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

East African shilling

I've been working on this article, just for fun (I know, I'm supposed to be finishing the denomination templates, but sometimes I need a change of focus). Anyway, next time you're looking for something to do, would you mind looking at it? I'd appreciate any thoughts or advice, especially about formatting, improving the infobox, and adding coins/banknotes tables. I've never dealt with images, and don't want to waste my time putting them on en if they belong on commons or vice versa. I'll look into it and see what I can figure out, but I know you've done a lot, so thought you might be able to save me some time. Ingrid 22:51, 29 April 2007 (UTC)