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Falling Up (band)

• Is there some way for both the old and new revisions to be undeleted temporarily? Like a full history undeletion rather than just the most recent article? It would be nice to verify that in fact the two articles were different. --SPUI (talk) 21:41, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Votes for undeletion

Admins - please review the deleted history of these requests and provide the most complete version for discussion here.

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April 20, 2005

Daniel C. Boyer

In 2004, he told us he was scheduled to appear in the 2005 Who's Who in America. What ever happened with that? 24.4.127.164 04:14, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Considering how the last IP to make this comment on here turned out to be a sockpuppet of Mr. Boyer ,, I say we disregard this desperate plea for attention. Bugger off. Postdlf 04:19, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

A quick look at 24.4.127.164's contribution history shows a variety of (irregularly spaced) contributions, mostly of the housekeeping type -- in marked contrast to the diff you cite -- so your off-the-cuff accusation strikes me as markedly unfair to 24.4.127.164. Strikes me as an obvious question to answer, though I'm skeptical of the notoriety a Who's Who listing really shows.

I think you owe 24.4.127.164 an apology. --Calton | Talk 04:31, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Radio KoL

Well, I fail to understand what happened. User:Jinian closed the vfd for Radio KoL with consensus to merge (IMO, there were no consensus to merge, but that's not the interesting part). After merging the content, he then attempted to delete it (but it couldn't be deleted due to block compressing bug). If he succeeded then all history would've been destroyed, which is not appropriate when articles get merged (the proper thing is to leave the redirect). The article is protected now and I can't fix it. Grue 15:00, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

• As I see there were other articles that he deleted after merging. I suggest they should also be undeleted and left as redirects to preserve history. Grue 15:10, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
• I believe we must make some "Merging Awareness". Regularly, things that should be merged get put on VfD - apparently it is rather unclear to new users how a merge actually works. Radiant_* 13:18, Apr 21, 2005 (UTC)
• Looks like no one visits that page anymore... Should I post this to administrators' noticeboard? Grue 19:17, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

April 22, 2005

Falling Up (band)

http://en.wikipedia.org/Falling_Up_%28band%29 was deleted by a VFD apparently around April 9th, unknown to me. I never knew a falling up band article had ever been created, and I wrote an entirely new one. The main reason given for the band to be deleted was that they had made only one CD independantly and were therefore non-notable, whereas in reality they were signed on to BEC recordings, a major Christian label that also produces for big Christian Contemporary names like Jeremy Camp, Kutless. (Take a look at http://www.becrecordings.com/front.php). As well, there is a precedent for single-album Christian Contemporary bands on the wikipedia--for example, Casting crowns. To summarize -My article was different from the article deleted and should, at the least, get a separate VFD. -The reason for the VFD (independant release and therefore non-notability) was untrue since they were signed on to BEC. -Please put my article back :) -Cookiemobsta

Agreed that a separate VFD is needed if it wasn't a re-creation of the old one. Can an admin verify this? --SPUI (talk) 23:19, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

• Undelete. The first version (that went through VfD) simply stated that Falling Up was a Christian rock band and then listed its members. Comments in the VfD mentioned the lack of notability. The latest version, while a stub, is more informative and offers at least a basis for notability. I don't know enough about the labels to make a call on that basis, but I wouldn't consider this version a recreation of the deleted article. SWAdair | Talk 05:47, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
• Keep deleted. VfU is not to be used to try to get VfD votes redone. RickK 21:30, Apr 23, 2005 (UTC)
  • Unless the article is a re-creation, rather than a new article that was created, deletion policy clearly states that it must be separately VFDed. This at the very least prevents me from writing a substub that says "Stephen King was a man. He was not a dragon-man." and taking it through VFD, and then using that as a rationale to delete any article on Stephen King. You've done this before and you're doing it again. Please stop trolling. That has to be what you're doing, as you've been informed before that the deletion policy clearly protects articles like this.
  • Is there some way for both the old and new revisions to be undeleted temporarily? Like a full history undeletion rather than just the most recent article? It would be nice to verify that in fact the two articles were different. --SPUI (talk) 21:40, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Oh, by the way, this VFU is not for trying to redo the VFD. It's for trying to undo what seems to be an improper (though possibly well-intentioned) speedy. --SPUI (talk) 22:13, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
• Weak undelete. They are listed on allmusic.com but have no written entry. Gamaliel 22:18, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • For the record, this reason may be invalid, since it treats this like another VFD on the subject. The main issue here is whether the recent speedy was valid. According to the nominator, it was not the same article; good faith is the only thing to go by here, until we have some other evidence either way. --SPUI (talk) 22:31, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

April 23, 2005

Paul Bouche

I still think it's a vanity page, originally by Mr Bouche himself, though this anon may or may not be Mr Bouche, but he doesn't seem notable, but I'd like someone else to have a look. see talk:Paul Bouche; also anon comment that follows Dunc|☺ 20:47, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

\Did u see? the links that are enclosed in his article? I am familiar with Paul Bouche. How many of your listings have won an Emmy award? As a matter of fact I was searching for him after Discussion and presentation by him @ Miami International University of Art and Design.

He has been arround for many years and has been an inspiration for many young hispanics as myself. I guess you are not familiar with the field of spanish media. That is ok. But know I also searched The Miami Herald, El Nuevo Herald, La Opinion (Los Angeles Main Hispanic Paper), Even Variety, The Hollywood Reporter and Hispanic Business magazine have featured articles about him. Perhaps you should too. I don't see anyone on the list of comments that strike me as Hispanic or Latino. Ask arround. Even though you probably know no hispanic americans.

Just because you dont know someone doesn't mean they are not relevant for our community 35 million in the US and 400,000,000 arround the world. (end anon comment)

• Keep deleted. VfU is not a place to try to rerun votes already cast on VfD. RickK 21:33, Apr 23, 2005 (UTC)

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