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Re: Just dropping you a note

Thanks for pointing it out. I was going through dozens of articles in Category:Misplaced Pages articles with topics of unclear importance from January 2007 and was careless with that article ... I checked back only a few revisions. I'll be more thorough in the future. Thanks again, Black Falcon 06:55, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

No worries, I'm terribly familiar with how easy it is to slip up. I've had to stop doing admin stuff past a certain time, as its obvious I shouldn't be deleting stuff when I'm tired. :) EVula // talk // ☯ // 14:18, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

AN/I sockpuppet case

Hey, thanks for blocking those socks of User:Billy Ego. I received this message shortly thereafter, and was wondering if I could ask you to block that account as well. May be one to keep an eye on. Thanks again for your speedy assistance. MastCell 16:36, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Oh wow, I love how he keeps going and going... EVula // talk // ☯ // 17:15, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Yes, you forgot this one and a hundred others. I live in a building with many students with an IP that is constantly in flux you bozos. I'm not a sockpuppet of Billy Ego but I am of Regulations. Billy Ego is apparently somebody in some other room or some other city in the same geographic region. I was wrongly blocked. Billy Ego said he was a fascist. I'm obviously the opposite of that..a libertarian. So why would I (Regulations) be a sockpuppet of Billy Ego? But of course you don't care. Do your mindless administration duties. But good luck finding the hundreds of other usernames coming from this region of the country and good luck finding the new username I will create immediately after you block this one. And good luck finding my other usernames I use in articles that you don't know to check since I edit new articles everyday. You are forcing people to create hundreds of sockpuppets to keep from being detected. Eventually Misplaced Pages will be all sockpuppets, if it's not already. Truent 17:12, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Uh huh, okay, whatever. EVula // talk // ☯ // 17:15, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Boo! Wapmonsi 17:22, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

/me waves EVula // talk // ☯ // 17:24, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

That was too easy. I gave you a hint. Try finding the next one after you block this one. Wamonspop 17:29, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

You're assuming that I care. Thanks for at least tagging your userpage for me. EVula // talk // ☯ // 17:32, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

License plates

That template, while very nice, doesn't tell anything about the licensing of the image. Works of state governments, with rare exception, are not in the public domain. Wyoming's website, for example, has this to say: "The State of Wyoming and its agencies are and shall remain the sole and exclusive owner of all rights, title and interest in and to all lists, libraries, databases, maps, graphics, compilations, files and other data created and posted for inclusion in this system, including ownership of any trade secrets or copyright pertaining thereto, except as specifically noted." So we can't use a work of the state government of Wyoming except under a claim of fair use. What's more is that the article using that image - List of U.S. state license plates - contains nothing but blatant copyvios. Just about all of those images are merely cropped versions of license plates found at . Even if they weren't copyvios, they would be derivative works of copyrighted license plate designs and thus not acceptable for free use. I know this kinda puts a damper on your efforts, but that template, license plate, and every license plate in the article all need to be deleted. --BigDT 05:26, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

Responded on user's talk page. EVula // talk // ☯ // 05:39, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

Jedi Exile

In that referance Master Kavar refers to the Exile as "him" - please do not changed the gender to female. It wrong, deal with it. --The Matrix Prime 15:22, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

Uh, what reference? What I cited didn't mention Kavar at all. EVula // talk // ☯ // 15:25, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

Edits on Government Laboratory High School

Hi, I was just wondering if you could explain your edits to as you didn't on the edit itself.

I'm pretty new to wikipedia, so I'd like to understand stuff like this.

Thanks alot!

LookingYourBest 21:06, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Sure thing.

• {{cleanup}} was placed at the top of the article because it needs to be reformatted to match the manual of style.
• Image:school-monogram.jpg was moved to the right of the article so that it ate up less room; in general, it looks much better like that.
• {{fact}} was placed beside the "regarded as the best" comment because there's no source for the claim.
• The biggest edit was to remove the gallery. That is because all of the images had been deleted (by me) under speedy deletion criterion I4, meaning that they had no copyright tag for more than a week.

If you have any further questions, just let me know. EVula // talk // ☯ // 21:13, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

No, that's great thanks and cheers for putting that stuff on my talk page! LookingYourBest 08:11, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

A bit of faith...

From here: Really, have a bit more faith in us poor admins. ;) Myself included? -- tariqabjotu 21:18, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Hey, it's not my place to tell you to have more faith in yourself; that's for your psychiatrist. ;) EVula // talk // ☯ // 21:23, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Ironically, this comes at a time when there actually is a backlog on WP:AIV. I know these backlogs do happen, and perhaps quite often. However, what I was trying to say is that backlogs at WP:AIV always get cleared quickly. On the other hand, other backlogs, say at Category:Disputed fair use images, are never fully resolved. -- tariqabjotu 21:25, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Hmm, a fair enough clarification. I still don't see the "contest" as enducing an otherwise reasonable admin to start blocking non-disruptive editors (which is what I took as being your concern), but I will certainly agree that the AIV backlog in no way, shape, or form ever compares to the other admin backlogs. EVula // talk // ☯ // 21:28, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Oh, and I have made a suggestion on how to help cut down on the admin backlogs. Much less controversial, and less dramatic, but I think it would be just fine if people would stop complaining about the size of the backlogs and start tackling them. (personally, I've cleared out four days worth of backlogs in the three days) EVula // talk // ☯ // 21:45, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Re: User:Chrislk02/archive02

Er, for the record, I've got all my talk page archives fully protected. I don't think it's particularly unusual. EVula // talk // ☯ // 03:54, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Odd. Wonder why they're not showing up on Special:Protectedpages. Anyway, unusual or not, it's against policy and, as far as I can see, unnecessary. Adminship is a position of trust, not a right to privileges that other users don't have; that includes protection of arbitrary pages without reason. In other words, if non-adminstrators can't have their archives fully-protected (which they can't), why should anyone be allowed them? – Gurch 04:20, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Not to sound like an ass, but where is it against policy? I don't see anything wrong with it, but if there's a policy (not guideline) against it, I'll revoke the protection. The whole reason I locked them down is that I can't see a reason why someone would need to make any edits to them.
That is odd about Special:Protectedpages... archive 3 shows up, but none of the others do. However, in looking it over, it seems that I'm not the admin by a long shot that has locked down their talk archives. EVula // talk // ☯ // 04:27, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Well... the protection policy is inclusive, rather than exclusive; it specifies what you can do rather than what you can't. From the policy:

Indefinite full protections are used for:

• High visibility pages such as the Main Page in order to prevent vandalism. This includes templates transcluded to these pages.
• The site's logo, press releases, and key copyright and license pages, for legal reasons. Admins should not make significant changes to these pages without prior discussion.
• Certain "system administration" pages, including many editorial, deletion and stub templates, and the entire MediaWiki namespace. These are pages that need rarely be changed, and that because of widespread usage can cause large-scale disruption if vandalized, or modified ill-advisedly. Again, admins should not make significant changes to these pages without prior discussion.
• Pages deleted by consensus that are repeatedly recreated. These are listed in either Category:Protected deleted pages or Misplaced Pages:Protected titles. Requests to overturn such a deletion should be made through the deletion review process.
• Personal css and js pages like User:Example/monobook.css or User:Example/cologneblue.js are automatically fully protected by the MediaWiki software. Only the account associated with these pages and admins are able to edit them.

Temporary full protections are used for:

• Enforcing a "cool down" period to stop an edit war.
• A history-only review of the article during some discussions on deletion review.
• Preventing abuse of the {{unblock}} template or other disruptions by a blocked user on their user talk page.

User archives certainly aren't high-visibility, they're not part of the site's copyright/license pages, they're not Foundation press releases, they're not vulnerable templates, they're not in the MediaWiki namespace, they won't cause large-scale disruption if edited, they haven't been repeatedly recreated, they're not personal css or js pages, there have been no edit wars, no deletion reviews and nobody has abused {{unblock}} on them.

I wouldn't necessarily have a problem with semi-protection (though I think that's also unnecessary), because the policy allows for that (it lists: User pages (but not user talk pages), when requested by the user. as suitable for indefinite semi-protection). Sorry if I'm being disruptive, but I am a little puzzled by what seems to be a more widespread tendency than I thought to fully protect what are among the least vulnerable pages we have – Gurch 11:48, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Well, if there's nothing in the policy (which you could have just linked to, rather than quote) that says I shouldn't, and it seems to be a semi-common occurrence among other admins, I can't say that I'm particularly convinced that I should remove it. Most importantly, it isn't doing anyone harm, and it doesn't affect the encyclopedia. If it did, I might reconsider, regardless of it not being spelled out in the policy.

If the policy changes, feel free to let me know and I will remove the protection, but in the meantime, I just can't get myself worked up about it; there are far too many things that do affect that encyclopedia to worry about (specifically, I'm trying to get admins to address the backlog situation).

Also, there's no need to apologize; you're doing what you can to address something you feel is a problem. I may disagree with you about it, but that doesn't mean I don't respect the effort. :) EVula // talk // ☯ // 15:30, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Block of User talk:HanzoHattori

Dear EVula, I am not involved in any issues related to HanzoHattori, but I often looked at his edits. I believe he is the best WP editor and fantastic expert on topics related to Chechnya and some other topics. Yes, he was uncivil with regard to a "phantom" user who every time appeared under different IP addresses to intentionally disrupted work of Hanzo. Please also take into account the cultural differences between people from different countries who work in Misplaced Pages. I think that two week punishment is too harsh. Would it be possible if you or another neutral administrator reconsidered his case and reduced the time of block? Sincerely, Biophys 02:51, 5 May 2007 (UTC)