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Thanks for the suggestion on Vischeck, however its not compatible with Misplaced Pages at the moment. So I've gotta sorta wing it. User:Alkivar/sig 22:19, 25 Jan 2005 (UTC)

To-Do List Editing on Talk Pages

I'll thank you not to edit my own personal to-do list. —chris.lawson (talk) 21:01, 30 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Your user page was incorrectly in Category:United States coins. I fixed the problem by replacing

[[Category:United_States_coins|...

with

[[:Category:United_States_coins|...

I'm sorry; I didn't feel it was necessary to ask your permission to fix the problem, but I probably should have left a note explaining what I did. dbenbenn | talk 23:26, 30 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Duplicates

Can you please answer this question:

How do I create duplicates while editing a section of a Misplaced Pages article even though I never try to do so?? Georgia guy 23:22, 14 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Loonie

OK, I'll take your word for it. --Neutrality 22:55, Mar 19, 2005 (UTC)

Talk:The value of coins

Thank you (a) for spotting the page and (b) reminding me about it. You had blanked the page, then put a speedy delete tag on it, but your comment was VfD. Normally people put the speedy delete on a page without removing the existing text. So I reverted back with the intention of deleting, but then I got cut off. It is gone now. --Henrygb 09:32, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)

User:170.158.96.99

The previous block was 24 hours. I prefer not to inform vandals on how long a block lasts. They'd return to their old habits far too soon. I'd love to give him a longer block, but he only swings by occasionally. The collateral damage would be too large. Feel free to contact someone to block him if you catch him in the act, so we can block him while he's still active so he notices. Sorry, I can't be of more help. Mgm| 17:43, Apr 13, 2005 (UTC)

Please forward relevant emails to <My Misplaced Pages username>@gmail.com Mgm| 08:59, Apr 15, 2005 (UTC)

• I haven't heard back from the guy since I introduced myself and suggested to keep him unblocked for a while. I'll see if he can use this latest vandalism to track down the offender. Mgm| 05:13, Apr 27, 2005 (UTC)

entheogens

also posted at Category talk:Entheogens.

Hi chris. The distinction being drawn is, as you say, between mescaline and peyote. Mescaline itself does not have a long history of religious/shamanic use; peyote, on the other hand, does. One of the purposes of this category is to expand the wikipedia categorization of hallucinogens beyond a simple scientific analysis of chemical class. Peyote contains more than just mescaline, to start with; in addition, the qualitative differences between the ingestion and use of peyote and the use of mescaline are great. For instance, peyote is often harvested, prepared, and administered according to strict religious ritual; mescaline can have that sort of associated ritual, but it is very uncommon and does not have the centuries and centuries of history that is associated with Peyote. Mescaline is bought from your local drug dealer and comes gel-capped, Peyote does not. Peyote is harder than mescaline- ie, harder to take, more nausea, etc, resulting in very different qualitative experiences.

The point of the entheogens category is not to categorize all hallucinogens/chemicals that can be used as entheogens. Ecstasy, acid, and ketamine all can be used as entheogens. Instead, the point is to create a category for substances with a tradition of entheogenic usage. Those who use peyote as an entheogen do not use mescaline, although they could; they do not talk about the pharmacological effects of mescaline, but rather the "spirit" of peyote. Many consider gel-capped mescaline to be almost sacraligious.

just to be clear, i am not trying to claim that peyote is "better" than mescaline, or that there is (necessarily) a difference between the effects of peyote and a concoction of pure extracts. There may be a difference, and there may not be. what is at stake here is not the reality of the scientific conception of mescaline as opposed to the reality of the spirit of peyote, or something similar; i don't beleive that such issues will ever be cleared up. Rather, Peyote has a long history of ritualized, entheogenic usage, as well as the idea of reality expressed in and through these ritual uses, while the chemical mescaline has none of these associated with it. The question is not about the truth of reality or the scientific difference between mescaline and peyote, or whether mescaline could be used as an entheogen. rather, it is a question of the great difference in history, culture, and ritual between the two.

Cannabis does have a history of entheogenic usage; you'll notice, however, that THC is not categorized as an entheogen. Tobacco is here but nicotine is not, psilocybes are here but psylocibin is not, ayahuasca is here but DMT and Harmala are not. For the purposes of this category, something is not considered an entheogen by virtue of its being a hallucinogen or its potential uses as an entheogen.

thanks. --Heah 02:23, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

no trouble at all! It makes me happy that people are paying attention to these pages. I think i'm going to start up a wikiproject dealing with precisely these issues, and i've given somewhat of an outline for it on the wikiproject:drugs talk page if you're interested. --Heah 02:34, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

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