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I was shocked by this deletion. The article clearly and explicitly asserts a reason to consider Adams notable. The E8 project was all over the major news headlines two or three months ago. If you disagree with this claim to notability, nominate it on AfD and state your reasons. A decent respect for your fellow Wikipedians requires that. ] 22:54, 12 May 2007 (UTC) I was shocked by this deletion. The article clearly and explicitly asserts a reason to consider Adams notable. The E8 project was all over the major news headlines two or three months ago. If you disagree with this claim to notability, nominate it on AfD and state your reasons. A decent respect for your fellow Wikipedians requires that. ] 22:54, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

==Request for help with ]==
There is an extensive and ongoing dispute on the talk page for this article. One editor seems to feel very strongly about his POV and a number of others disagree. I think a cool head would be beneficial here (I know it would help me too). If you would look in here and comment or make a suggestion, that would be great. <font color="Red">]</font><sup>]</sup> 01:51, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

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User:Kirbytime is requesting pictures of rape, child porn and sex

Like you, I find it alarming to see User:Kirbytime repeatedly requesting pictures of child porn for example like his recent request here which he tried to bring back in after you took it out rightfully. There are tonnes of other requests and interestingly he wanted to know the name of a child model in a sexually controversial image here. AND he's also a member of "Pedophilia Article Watch Project". That would be ok, if he wasnt going around Misplaced Pages requesting sexually pictures of child and rape. Whats going on? I wonder if there's any Misplaced Pages policy to deal with this. Is there anything that can be done to put a stop to him? I think an administrator has to come up and recognize the disturbing nature of this editing activity. I think we could make a collection of all his disturbing edits (there are many) and report them in the appropriate manner. Edit: Oh I see, I did not realize that you're an administrator. Well my whole message takes a different meaning now. I only hope that this user can be blocked and that there's some way to deal with his requests for child porn pictures and other stuff. He is definitely trying to test the limits of WP policy, that is for sure. --Matt57 04:03, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! I'm glad someone noticed. I'll let you know if I notice any more abuse, trolling or disturbing editing activity from him. --Matt57 04:26, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
More talking behind my back. Could you stop it? Stop the defamation.--ĶĩřβȳŤįɱéØ 09:14, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
Then stop requesting child porn. The Behnam 11:45, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Jürgen Barth

Hi Herostratus, i'm german too ;-)

However, this redirect is useless since it redirects to his father Edgar Barth. Both are racedrivers, but have nothing in common. Please delete Jürgen Barth. -- Stahlkocher 15:51, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Yes, shure ;-) Thx for your assistance! -- Stahlkocher 16:57, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Arabella Kennedy (2nd nomination)

Dear Editor, just for your information, redirects do already support redirecting directly to section headers. Test it for yourself using the redirect you created yourself: Arabella Kennedy. Best regards, --Cpt. Morgan (Reinoutr) 06:35, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Hah, I was just about to tell him that. You got to it first, Reinoutr! —Signed, your friendly neighborhood MessedRocker. 10:05, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

CFD closing

Hello. It's been a long time since I have posted to you, but I just wanted to say that I noticed the closing that you did on Misplaced Pages:Categories for discussion/Log/2007 March 26#Category:Diabetics. Note that I am not posting to say thanks for making a decision that my comment agreed with, but rather to say that I liked the way in which you explained your rationale. I think that if more admins did that on difficult cases we would have fewer people bothering them on their talk pages and bringing things to DRV. Good job! --After Midnight 15:37, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Yin Yang Yo episodes

What about redirecting them to List of Yin Yang Yo! episodes like some suggested in the AFD? At the moment, they won't help anyone since all they say is that "this was the --th episode of Yin Yang Yo". TJ Spyke 20:20, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Wouldn't editors still be able to expand them if they were redirects? All they would have to do is click on the page and start editing it. TJ Spyke 20:26, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

AfD Debate - Edeskonline

Regarding your comments: "So... one legitimate link, its legitimacy low because it is online. Because of the very low publishing cost, online magazines are often closer to being blogs than they are to being real print magazines, although that's not necessarily true of maxine.com."

I would like to clarify that maxzine.co.in (it is not maxine.com) is not only an online magazine but actually a print magazine. This can be confirmed by visiting their website and viewing the about us page. The website is just an online version of their print magazine. The magazine is managed by a good reputable team and sponsored by NIIT which is one of the top IT companies in India. Hence the argument of low legitimacy is incorrect.

Please reconsider your decision. Dhshah 20:46, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Edeskonline. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article or speedy-deleted it, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Dhshah 06:01, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Links to and promoting attack sites

Hello, per Misplaced Pages:Harassment#Types_of_harassment/posting of personal information, links to Misplaced Pages Review are disallowed. It is an attack site that cannot be linked to, advertised, or promoted, supported by previous ArbCom decisions. I've removed this link and promotion of a hostile site that attacks and attempts to out the IRL identities of Wikipedians from your user page, per this:

"Posting information on, or implying how to find, or simply posting the address of a website which publishes such information is also harassment, regardless of whether the posted link is live or just a bare URL. This is because it places the other person at unjustified and uninvited risk of harm in "the real world" or other media. This applies whether or not the person whose personal information is being revealed is a Misplaced Pages editor.""

Thanks for your understanding. - Denny 16:49, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

DRV

You don't seem to have been informed, but one of your deletion closures is up for review here --pgk 18:06, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

AFD review

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Cultural depictions of Sammy Davis, Jr.. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article or speedy-deleted it, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Otto4711 18:59, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Purple Pussy. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article or speedy-deleted it, you might want to participate in the deletion review. -Malkinann 04:33, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Sorry Kirpatrick still and again

WiZarOfWor Misplaced Pages remove your privilèges but you are still an active constructive element removing the right to put false or negative facts. JeanClauDuc —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 83.206.63.250 (talk) 17:33, 13 April 2007 (UTC).

Disagree with removing famous smokers from list

I'm editing only a year but I can't see any justification for your deletes of dozens of famous smokers from List of Famous Smokers. You claimed it was because they were not famous enough or (something like) smoking was not enough of their image. But looking down the list of the dozens who you deleted, almost all of them seemed to be in neither of those categories. You wanted the whole article deleted and perhaps you are getting your revenge at your failure to achieve that. Or do you have a better explanation? I would've just reverted your deletions, but it's now 10 days since your deletions and I don't know how to revert them without also reverting the dozen good revisions that were made since then. Will you tell me how to do that--or do I have to ask someone else? One of the smokers deleted, at least, was added back, presumably by someone who didn't know the person was already put in and deleted. People are naturally going to do that, because they are famous and everyone knows they smoke, so your goal is going to be thwarted one way or the other, eh? Sorry if I'm way off-base, but I'm sincerely telling you what I think. Korky Day 13:18, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

You answered on my page, thanks! Was I supposed to answer you there, too? Anyway, I did and I don't know if you'll automatically see it or if I'm supposed to tell you here. Korky Day 15:22, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
In a minute I'll add more for you about this on my talk page. Korky Day 20:50, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Regarding the article Dennis

Hello,

I was reverting the article Dennis from a vandal. He made changes to it, but the article wasn't exactly rubbish beforehand. There was a stub before it and I was wondering why you deleted it.

Cheers,

5aret 00:41, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Florida Tech Housing

Herostratus, I was kind of counting on you to pull the plug on the awful stuff in the FIT article on housing. Another editor wants to "merge it back" into the main article. In the meantime (because I was lazy) I put another bunch of uh stuff in the bottom of the article and commented it out. I thought it might be useful later for reference. Like a closet. Anyway, some editor uncommented it! I think it was that junkpile that made you think that someone had actually done some work on the housing article, which they hadn't. Please, please, kill the housing article before it swallows up the main one!  :) Student7 11:53, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Child rights

Hi Herostratus. Since you've edited/talked a lot on the children's rights movement article, I wanted to let you know that I am going to write a separate article about Children's rights that reflects a more international consensus and diverges from content regarding the different forms of "movement" surrounding the issues. I've opened this up to discussion on the talk page there; it would be good to know if you have any opinions about that. - Freechild 15:16, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

re Zeotrope Theatre

Herostratus: I'm sorry I don't know HTML very well so this might mess up your page. Nonetheless, I wanted to talk to you about an article I have posted several times that you have removed. It is an extremely important part of my historic town's history, and I can unbiasedly say is far more relevant than thousands or articles that are on wikipedia right now. I posted about it biasedly once, and it was removed. I then reposted it with an unbiased description, but it was again removed (the reason given was repost, but it was not a repost). It is very important to me to get this article posted. Can you please find a way to contact me (site won't let me e-mail you). I'd like to figure out what I need to do to get my article posted. I understand your job is difficult, but this article is legitimate. Thank you for your time and please get back to me.

EDIT 1: - The name of the article is "Zeotrope Theatre". Is it possible for me to respond message you in the manner that you messaged me?
EDIT 2: Small world that the editor lives in Franklin. I'm assuming that you can't tell me his/her identity.. but anyway, I feel like the fact that the individual lives in that town clouds his/her ability to judge the the importance of the theater beyond the immediate local area. I don't want to use the fact that there are thousands of far more localized articles on wiki as an argument to allow this one. However, as an expert on the history of the theater, would you allow me some time to rewrite an article for it, focusing on how it is culturally and historically significant beyond the local area, and then reconsider it for posting? Lastly, this is unrelated but where do you make the cutoff for "local"? For example, a landmark that is only important "locally" to a larger city would obviously be allowed. Franklin is a city of 33,000.


re Ziggy Nisczcot

The surname was spelled incorrectly - subsequently set up a new page with the correctname: Ziggy Niszczot. Not sure how to delete the blanked page. Sattlersjaw 22:27, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

OK, thanks for deleting and for the tip on the Move tab - I'll use it next time if there is a need to do so.

Sattlersjaw 22:44, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Vel non

We had much much debate over sales numbers and ultimately concluded that it couldn't work because what the threshold would be was necessarily arbitrary. It was also impossible to agree on even a range for the threshold. It actually caused more controversy than any of the other criteria I initially drafted. By the way, you'll have to excuse my use of vel non but, you know, sic transit gloria mundi:-)--Fuhghettaboutit 04:36, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Help with Abusive editor XavierVE

Over the last several weeks, this editor has repeatedly engaged in personally attacking and insulting me in Talk:Perverted-Justice. I believe his behavior is uncivil and unbecoming a wiki editor. Rather than respond to him in the topic talk page, I politely took my complaint to his talk page. His response has been to brush me off and ignore my concerns, blanking the talk page. It does seem that this editor has a past of abusive behavior towards other editors. I've tried talking to him, I've tried waiting it out. I have never made any comment directed towards him in any manner. As my edit history shows, I have only strictly commented on content, and never on the editor.

I have documented his behavior towards me on this archived talk page: ]. I appreciate your help, but if you can't, can you offer me some advice on how to proceed. Thanks, Vagr4nt 00:41, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

Billy Jack Haskins AfD

I take issue with your conclusion that no consensus was found with the AfD for Billy Jack Haskins. Most people who replied thought he should be deleted, with only a few dissenters. Also, the article is without sources, and as it says on every edit page, "Encyclopedic content must be verifiable.". Nothing in the article is verifiable and thus should be deleted on that alone.--Thomas.macmillan 15:27, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

Biting the newbies.

Yeah, I know. It was obviously good faith, but that's the least aggressive TW message I got. I wish I knew how/if I could add template the the warning generator. Some good faith edits deserve more... mellow notices.  :-) Coren 19:54, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

I can edit messages output by TW a posteriori, but it's work I wasn't doing to date. But you're right, in cases of obvious newbie and good faith I really should take the time to soften the tag. The default doesn't have very sharp teeth, but I agree it should be softer. Coren 20:09, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

Blocking of User:Jessica93

Hi Herostratus. I noticed you blocked User:Jessica93 a while back. The message you posted on the user page was subsequently blanked by User:USANational, who I suspect of being a sockpuppet of User:Belginusanl. Would you care to take a look at Misplaced Pages:Suspected sock puppets/Belginusanl and offer your opinion? Kind regards, Gobeirne 02:16, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Christopher Wyke (electronic sports player)

I've checked the references given. They're all bogus. Nothing that could be associated with this person. One is just a game instruction manual. I think a Speedy may be appropriate. DarkAudit 19:21, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

help!

I made an article for wax orchard only to have it removed even though i have permission from the origin www.waxorchard.com. how can i get back all of the content that i had put in the article originally. i spent many hours on it, is there a way to get it back? thanks!

wax orchard

in your last comment on my talk page you said that you had temporarily restored the "wax orchard" article. I still dont see it and can't find it. Does it take a while to be restored? I will copy the content as soon as I see the article restored and let you know when I have done so. thanks!

Maritime Christian College

I have added a "{{prod}}" template to the article Maritime Christian College, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but I don't believe it satisfies Misplaced Pages's criteria for inclusion, and I've explained why in the deletion notice (see also "What Misplaced Pages is not" and Misplaced Pages's deletion policy). You may contest the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}} notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on its talk page. Also, please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. GreenJoe 16:12, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

PIE

Hi, I'd just like to enquire about why you deleted the Paedophile Information Exchange article? Was there a proper discussion before this article was deleted?

I ask this because the article appeared to be well written, in no way spammish, and related to an obscure yet important period of history. In light of this, why not leave the article on the main wiki index, as opposed to hiding this information away on the same website whilst creating dead links in the process? Are personal projects and minute historical details not part of the beauty of wiki? --Jim Burton 20:45, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

Pedophile activism / History of

Hi again. I contact you, since you're and admin I see around on the concerned pages quite a lot. What seems to be happening is that the 'experienced' user SqueakBox is spontaneously and repeatedly merging the activism and history articles, with no discussion, despite my reverts and calls for such a discussion or vote. He only listed the articles for merging a matter of hours before merging them, and recieved no support for his proposals. Yes, we can put up with his pov edits, but this I see as uncivil, especially since he is claiming that the merger is just part of his larger scheme to get these articles deleted. --Jim Burton 18:15, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

POV edits? SqueakBox 03:31, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

Deletion of the International Boylove Day article

You deleted the IBLD article with the reason that it is an "unnotable day observed by a fringe handful".

There had already been a proposal for merger with pedophile activism, but no conclusion to merge it had been reached. There was a discussion about it at http://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:Pedophile_activism#Proposal_for_Merger_with_IBLD_Article

I don't think that you should have deleted this article without prior discussion. Or was there a discussion that I have missed?

As I said in the merger discussion, it is the special observance of a larger minority group, has caused a reaction and in comparison with other days that have an article at Misplaced Pages it should be notable enough. So I don't think it should be deleted and at least there should be a discussion about it and not just a deletion because of the opinion of a single person. So could you restore the article?--Greeny6000 23:36, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Yep, please restore both articles and go through the proper process. What discussion we have had on this article seems to suggest keep, not even afd. You treated it as a speedy with no backing. --Jim Burton 15:21, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Reported trolling behavior from Kirbytime

You had warned Kirbytime that if he trolled again, he would be blocked. He's still doing it and I reported it here. Though he didnt request Child Porn this time but he did indulge in general trolling. When will this user be stopped ultimately? I believe this and his general edit-warring activity is enough trolling coming from a single user to justify a longer block. Not to mention he denies the holocuast by saying "its alleged to have happened". --Matt57 00:52, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Re:Template

The template I use is

{{subst:User:Utcursch/wel}} Sincerely, ~~~~

--Kkrouni 10:40, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Man in a skirt

I've unblocked User:Man in a skirt, blocked by you. I'm supposed to consult with you before doing so, but skipped this because (i) you seemed hesitant about the blocking yourself, (ii) this really seems a generic sort of name to me, (iii) another admin had said he was inclined to unblock, (iv) there was no allegation of vandalism etc by the user, (v) I suddenly felt like breaking a rule er, sorry, no, scrub that! I only noticed that I was supposed to consult with you after I'd announced on the man's user page that I was unblocking him. Well, since I've broken a rule, you can now block me..... Happy editing! -- Hoary 13:38, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

User Category for Discussion

A category created by you or to which you have significantly contributed is being considered for deletion, rename, move or merge in accordance with Misplaced Pages's Categories for Discussion policies. This does not mean that any of the userpages in the category will be deleted. They may, however, be recategorized.
Please share your thoughts on the matter at this category's entry on the User categories for discussion page.
VegaDark (talk) 06:23, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

{{Vandalism information|prefix=User:Herostratus/}}

Hi there. As you can see on my userpage, I use the above wdefcon template to monitor vandalism levels. Since the rename, the "change" link does not work, as it tries to change the former template page (now protected). I've tried fixing it, but I can't seem to find the right page. Would you be able to fix this please? :)

Chrisch 11:57, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

User ban request

I would like Ultra megatron banned for personal attack for the reason indicated here. You might not agree with me, but if you don't do not yell at me! Please? --Defender 911 21:07, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

Not good with it? Thats ok! Still, what's your opinion? --Defender 911 22:22, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
Thanks. :) --Defender 911 23:29, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

Wording

To be honest, I am thinking the wording of this template might be a bit harsh. It is supposed to just state the policy (the user re created the same article) without any good or bad faith assessment. But thanks for letting me know, I think I'll stop using it altogether. I just didn't want to repeat the exact same message. -- lucasbfr 23:59, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

Deletion of Jeffrey Adams (mathematician)

You deleted Jeffrey Adams (mathematician) without giving any reason. Since it was tagged with the db-bio template, I suppose you deleted it under CSD A7. However, the page stated that Adams "led the project that calculated the characters of the representations of E8". That may or may not be enough to establish notability, but it does assert notability and thus is does not fall under CSD A7. Furthermore, you wrote on User talk:R.e.b. that Adams "appears not to pass the WP:PROF test, at least as the article is presently formed." That's not a reason for speedy deletion. I thus undeleted the article. -- Jitse Niesen (talk) 15:27, 12 May 2007 (UTC)


I was shocked by this deletion. The article clearly and explicitly asserts a reason to consider Adams notable. The E8 project was all over the major news headlines two or three months ago. If you disagree with this claim to notability, nominate it on AfD and state your reasons. A decent respect for your fellow Wikipedians requires that. Michael Hardy 22:54, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

Request for help with Attachment Therapy

There is an extensive and ongoing dispute on the talk page for this article. One editor seems to feel very strongly about his POV and a number of others disagree. I think a cool head would be beneficial here (I know it would help me too). If you would look in here and comment or make a suggestion, that would be great. DPeterson 01:51, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

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