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| We need to include in the calculation the household incomes that would have been earned by the 130,000 internees during the course of the war. If one in three internees would otherwise have been employed, earning $5000 a year, that would work out to a quarter of a billion dollars '''per annum'''. We also need to include the values of the businesses that we effectively destroyed -- the shops, small manufacturers, and other enterprises that were owned by interned people and which they could not operate while interned. The calculation would need to include both the lost revenues, rents and leases, the depreciation of capital equipment material (often, no doubt, accelerated by neglect if not outright theft), and the opportunity costs of losing several years of operations. Some of the interned people owned real estate; they were deprived of the use of their property, or forced to sell it under grave duress. The difference in the value of education received by children in the camps, compared to those educated in the towns and cities, should be taken into account. ] 14:52, 15 May 2007 (UTC) | |||
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Shouldn't source text belong somewhere else? -- Cimon Avaro on a pogo stick 01:07 14 Jun 2003 (UTC)
Any documentation for this?
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- There had been some speculation that President Roosevelt was not at all enthusiastic about Executive Order 9066, but given that Japanese Americans were already being subject to increasing harassment by White Americans, and that it would only be a matter of time before killings and large-scale race rioting would start, President Roosevelt would have thought internment to be a lesser evil than having riots occur during wartime.
Is there any documentation of this, or is it only "some speculation"? Frjwoolley 16:36, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
folly or assistance?
considering the hundreds that did diein the internment camps , did this really help out the one ore two people that would've been saved from racial attacks? or was this just to protect the government from terrorist attacks such as those witnessed recently around the world.
Please sign your comments by adding four ~'s to the end of your comment, like this: ~ ~ ~ ~ (taking out the spaces inbetween the ~'s). 169.229.121.94 01:06, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
DeWitt
It's my understanding, though I can't remember where I came across it, that John DeWitt, commanding General of the Pacifi military district (cast defense and such) was the main factor in inducing Roosevelt to sign this. it is further my understanding that he lied and misrepresented, in a racist way (for personal reasons?), to make his case. If this is correct, in whole or part, it should be included here. Anyone got a citation, some source material, more info on DeWitt's actions or attitudes, Poosevelt's views on Fifth column stuff prior to the agitation for removal, ... Note that the area with the highest Japanes ancestry population (certainly in proportion if not absolute numbers) was Hawaii, and internment was very different and less strict there, with no protest from those responsible for its security.
We've got waht seems to be a large missign bit here, people. Help?! ww 13:49, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
"Some" Italain and German Americans?
The raceism twords these two groups, still evident today, is down-played in this article.
ummm, one of those references was a dead link and a pair of them were simply linking to different parts of the same page. not to mention that upon reading the article it talks of internment of german/italian nationals in one and german/italan sailors and residents of south american nations in the other. BTW the racisms directed towards german and italian americans tends to be “downplayed” because its not as overt, widespread or serious as that directed towards people of color.
J Edgar Hoover opposed internment?
Following the link on this page to J Edgar Hoover leads to an article that says he was one of the most vocal supporters of internment. If the statement in this article is correct, then clearly some additional detail is needed. Did he change from opposing to supporting internment?
Billions?
(Moved because it does not seem to relate to the German/Italian heading)
"Losses incurred by those affected during this time were estimated in the billions of dollars."
Some quick math will show how this remark is just plain wrong. 130,000 people were effected by this order. If you accept the premise of the above line then $2,000,000,000/130,000=$16000 per person in 1941 dollars was lost. That is $16000, for each man, woman, and child. A family of four would have lost $64,000 during a time when the United States was still feeling the effects of the "Great Depression". How is this possible? Without a citation, I suggest that this line be removed.
It's an interesting claim whose substantiation would be historically relevant.
We need to include in the calculation the household incomes that would have been earned by the 130,000 internees during the course of the war. If one in three internees would otherwise have been employed, earning $5000 a year, that would work out to a quarter of a billion dollars per annum. We also need to include the values of the businesses that we effectively destroyed -- the shops, small manufacturers, and other enterprises that were owned by interned people and which they could not operate while interned. The calculation would need to include both the lost revenues, rents and leases, the depreciation of capital equipment material (often, no doubt, accelerated by neglect if not outright theft), and the opportunity costs of losing several years of operations. Some of the interned people owned real estate; they were deprived of the use of their property, or forced to sell it under grave duress. The difference in the value of education received by children in the camps, compared to those educated in the towns and cities, should be taken into account. MarkBernstein 14:52, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
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