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User:Andries

Andries (talk · contribs) was topic banned by ArbCom from "editing Sathya Sai Baba and related articles or their talk pages". Andries edited Sai Baba of Shirdi on 6 May 2007. It can explicitly be seen that this is a related article. Additionally, Andries has been endorsing edit wars as a solution to content disputes on a guru article. Thank you for your time. Vassyana 13:36, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

It appears that the Arbcom ban went into effect on 6 May 2007, only a short time before this edit. If Andries hasn't edited since and continues not to, I would be inclined to give the benefit of the doubt on this one and assume Andries wasn't aware of the ban at the time. "Endorsing edit wars" is a separate matter. Best, --Shirahadasha 15:39, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Actually the ban went into effect on 6 March, not 6 May. Easy enough mistake to make a glance. :) Vassyana 20:02, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

User:Atabek

Atabek (talk · contribs) has been placed on a revert parole by the Arbitration Committee:

He can only make one revert per week per article, and he has to explain his revert. It is suspected that he was using suckpuppets to edit war on the fallowing articles Monte Melkonian, Drastamat Kanayan, Nagorno-Karabakh and House of Hasan-Jalalyan. The following suck account were used

• Earthdream (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)
  
• Drastamat (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)
  
• Shantinorashkar (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)
  
• Zipirtich (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)
  

the following is his IP address, which he accidentally used couple of days ago.

• 128.195.31.152 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)
  

Compare edits made by Atabek with edits made by User:Zipirtich, User:Earthdream, and User:Drastamat. --VartanM 05:41, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Checkuser established that it was not Atabek: So the accusation is groundless. Grandmaster 11:23, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Per Dmcdevit's checkuser finding (see Grandmaster's link), no apparent violation. Newyorkbrad 23:22, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

User:Dacy69

Dacy69 (talk · contribs) has been placed on a revert parole by the Arbitration Committee:

He can only make one revert per week per article, and he has to explain his revert. He reverted the Safavids article, and in his edit summary he said that he was reverting vandalism, however, what he removed was not vandalism at all. Furthermore, he did not explain his revert on the talk page as required by the arbitration parole: Azerbaijani 20:02, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

82.83.142.131 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) has been edit warring on that article for quite a while, disturbing the balance and making edits in violation of compromise achieved by the parties on talk after many months of discussions. The anon ignored the talk page and made no effort to get a consensus for his edits. He was reverted by many other users, including those representing the same side of the dispute. I don't think that the actions of anon can be classified anything else other than vandalism. Grandmaster 05:49, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

What he was adding was not vandalism. This anon was adding sourced information from a source everyone agrees is reliable and scholarly, including you. His edits were not vandalism. Ali made a comment on the talk page, Grandmaster made a comment on the talk page, and even this anon made a comment on the talk page, but Dacy did not, he simply reverted and called the edits vandalism.Azerbaijani 13:01, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

The manner in which this anon user edited page - numerous edit reverts is obvious vandalism. Moreover, I suspect this anon user is sockpuppet. My parole allows to revert anon vandalism without explanation. I made report on all these anon users replacing one another and vandalising page --Dacy69 14:35, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

No matter how many times you say it, sourced edits from reliable sources is not considered vandalism.

I quote Misplaced Pages: Any good-faith effort to improve the encyclopedia, even if misguided or ill-considered, is not vandalism.

Dacy, the fact that you dont even bother to familiarize yourself with Misplaced Pages's policies and still insist that you are correct really doesnt help your case. You violated your parole.Azerbaijani 15:36, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Those anon Ips are replacing each other. They know what they are doing. It is obvious vandalism. if it were edit of one, as you said, misguided anon, then you are right. But the case is different. Moreover, I believe that these anons are your socks.--Dacy69 15:47, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Stop saying its vandalism, its not, no matter who is doing it, those edits are not considered vandalism, as they are legitimate edits which the anon thinks are improving Misplaced Pages's coverage of that subject. Familiarize yourself with the rules. Saying that the edits are vandalism is not going to make it so, and no matter how many times you say it, Misplaced Pages's policies arent going to change.

Let see, Atabek, Grandmaster, Pejman, and Ali all also reverted the Anon, NONE of them called the anon's edits vandalism, and all the ones on revert parole left a comment. You were the only one. You clearly violated your parole.Azerbaijani 15:55, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Actually, I was waiting for the final admin decision in checkuser case, the fact that this IP should be considered a vandal was stated quite clearly now . So Azerbaijani, please, assume a good faith with regards to Dacy69.Atabek 16:05, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Not only did this decision come a day after Dacy69 violated his parole (therefore it doesnt apply, as Dacy committed the violation prior to any decision), but the only reason this decision even happened was because Atabek misinformed an administrator about this users actions, and I have commented on the Admins talk page:

Is it not peculiar that both Grandmaster and Atabek have run to Dacy69's defense so quickly? Also, note that once again Atabek made a false report against me (here you can also see the false accusations made against the anon):

Interestingly, these users contend that the Safavids article is a sensitive issue and that the anon is messing up the consensus version of the article, but these users themselves have violated a consensus agreement which they themselves agreed to on the History of the name Azerbaijan article and have traded reverts so that they wouldnt break parole.Azerbaijani 16:12, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

I fully trust to Arbcom members to judge on this case. Just fyi - On that page Mammed Said Ordubadi user:Azerbaijani insulted me and called me a liar - then and I came up with important document on page History of the name Azerbaijan to prove my case which was accepted and inserted in the article. You, Azerbaijani, should change attitude to other editors' opinion and not try to revenge, and moreover, use sockpuppets to evade restrictions. I made also checkuser request and wait for final desicion.--Dacy69 16:25, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

More lies, now you are clearly making false accusations. Show me the diffs where I called you a liar. I'm sick and tired of all of these lies and false reports against me. Here is every single diff of every comment I made on that talk page:

Where did I personally attack you? Nowhere! Infact, you reported me for those very comments before: Seem familiar? Dacy, this is hilarious, you guys can try all you want, but the fact of the matter is I have the diff's to prove every single false comment you guys make against me. I'm sick of these personal attacks. Its getting tiring.

Also, I have explained undo-weight to you before, I can take action against that source as per Misplaced Pages's policies but I have chosen not to out of good faith, but so far, all you guys have done is break compromises, break Misplaced Pages's policies, trade reverts, and make false accusations.Azerbaijani 16:45, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

2 times you said I lied . Speaking frankly I am done with that. Write and accuse me of anything you want.--Dacy69 16:55, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

You said I called you a lier, which I never did. I said you lied, which is a comment on your post, but I never called you a lier. Its funny how you prove yourself wrong! I'm only accusing you of what you did (violating parole), not what I want. ;)

Again, it should be pointed out that Dacy broke is parole prior to any decision being made regarding the anon.Azerbaijani 17:10, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

The anon IP belonged to Tajik, who used it to evade his parole. Tajik has been blocked indefinitely. I think this closes the issue. Grandmaster 07:50, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

User:Aivazovsky

Aivazovsky (talk · contribs) has been placed on a revert parole by the Arbitration Committee. The final decision in his case is here: Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_arbitration/Armenia-Azerbaijan#Aivazovsky_placed_on_revert_parole. Aivazovsky has been placed on revert parole and limited to one revert per page per week. Further, he is required to discuss any content reversions on the page's talk page.

However, he reverted Greater Armenia (political concept) article more than once: , , and provided no explanation of his reasonings for content reverts on the article's talk page, which is a violation of his parole.

Reported by: Atabek 17:01, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

 Done I see only one reversion there - the two diffs you cite are part of a string of consecutive edits by User:Aivazovsky (). He does need to discuss even that one reversion on the talk page, and I've left him a note to do so. I don't see a block-worthy violation at this point. MastCell 18:43, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

User:Pigsonthewing

Pigsonthewing (talk · contribs) has been placed on indefinite probation and is under an enforcement rule that he "may be blocked for a short period, up to a week in the case of repeat offenses, should he... excessively revert any page. After 5 blocks the maximum block shall increase to one year." The final decision is here: Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Pigsonthewing. He has since been blocked between 5-7 times (depending on how you count), including a 1-year block approved by the ArbCom.

He has now engaged in disruptive reverting here (April 30 through May 13), here (May 10 through May 13), and here (May 10 through May 13). Makemi describes the events at WP:ANI#Infoboxes.

Reported by: Fireplace 02:19, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

excessive reversions?

Talk:Sheffield_Town_Hall#coordinates inflammatory remarks?

further disruptive reverts at 13th-14th April, 15th Apr, 25th Apr and on the talk page (so much so, we needed a sub-page). L.J.Skinner 22:22, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

• Under his general probation, Pigsonthewing is hereby banned from making any info-box related edits for a period of one month. He may not add or remove infoboxes from articles and may not edit infobox templates. He may make suggestions on appropriate talk pages. This ban may be enforced by blocking (starting with 24 hours and escalating as appropriate). The other matter is stale, but would be appropriate for consideration here if it recurs. Thatcher131 04:39, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

User:Freedom skies

Freedom skies (talk · contribs) has been placed on standard revert parole by the Arbitration Committee. The final decision in their case is here: Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_arbitration/Freedom_skies.

In particular he is required to discuss content reversion (excepting obvious vandalism) on talk pages of articles. This has been violated in two cases.

• He performed a revert here: which was against consensus among the other editors.
• He undid a merge: . There was merge notice for more than two weeks and objections were invited on talk page.

In both cases, he failed to discuss it on talk pages, calling it reversion of vandalism.

Reported by: --Knverma 20:46, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

The decision ruled that Freedom skies is placed on standard revert parole for one year. He is limited to one revert per page per week, excepting obvious vandalism.

"Knverma" asked for redirect on 07:48, 8 May 2007 and went ahead on 07:49, 8 May 2007. It took him less than two mins to blank a well sourced article. Arrow740 said that "We should delete and merge into Buddhism and Hinduism." Knverma blanked the excellently sourced article and did not merge it; I merged it today.

"Knverma" blanked Patriarch (Buddhism) and redirected it to Lineage (Buddhism), a completely different conept. He blanked content elsewhere.

Those actions amount to vandalism.

_{Freedom skies| talk}  20:57, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

For further reference, here is the discussion regarding merging/deleting/redirecting: and some discussion on Freedomskies' talk page: --Knverma 21:07, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

• Reply Sorry to have ignored this, but I was mostly off line over the weekend, and I seem to be one of the few admins who deals with issues on this page. I'm not going to hold Freedom Skies responsible for reverting the blanking of Yoga_and_Buddhism; it is not unreasonable to be surprised at that kind of large scale change that was apparently only proposed one minute before and endorsed after the fact by one other editor. Editors who make bold changes should not be surprised when others object and should be prepared to discuss the matter calmly (as I learned my first week here). I also note that the merge and redirect is now done, so Skies' objections were apparently dealt with without further disruption or edit warring. The reversion of the merge of Patriarch (Buddhism) and Lineage (Buddhism) was done without discussion, which is a technical violation, and it would certainly be a good idea for Freedom Skies to explain on the talk pages why the two concepts are different enough to deserve separate articles. It is also inappropriate to describe good faith edits as vandalism, and his continued insistence that it was vandalism shows a worrisome inflexibility. Consider this a final warning. Thatcher131 00:22, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Actually sir,

I have good reasons to assume that "Knverma" is vandalizing those articles.

Kindly take a look into the past actions of the user:-

• "Knverma" blanked Yoga and distorted citations here
• "Knverma" distorted The earliest conceptual and practical beginnings of Zen lie in India, its formation and evolution as an innovative religious movement lies in China. to The formation and evolution of Zen as an innovative religious movement lies in China.
• "Knverma" blanked An Shih Kao and a reference tag.

That material was from peer reviewed journals. I'll provide numerous more examples such as these in which the user has shown the tendency to simply blank mateial in the past.

Knverma is an editor who would like to have every mention of Bodhidharma removed from this encyclopedia for his own reasons.

He removed the neutral narrative as mentioned below from here; he could have requested expansion and I, for one, would have responded. Removing an entire concept with such scope for expansion is improper.:-

A patriarch in Buddhism refers to high members of the sangha who were not only succesors to the historical Gautama Buddha, but were also leaders of their respectful sect. Bodhidharma, for example, was considered the first Zen (Ch'an) patriarch, and the twenty-eighth successor to the Buddha. In Jodo Shinshu it refers to seven Indian, Chinese and Japanese masters before its founder Shinran. In Theravada the term is used for the Sangharaja.

He completely blanked Yoga and Buddhism and did not merge it. I had to perform the merge myself.

• At least don't present links which contradict your statements. The above two links show that I deleted Bodhidharma from the Patriarch article and added it to the Lineage article. (deleted, following update by Freedomskies.) Have a speedy recovery from your accident. --Knverma 11:04, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

A patriarch is the one to whom the founding principles of a religious school are attributed to, in this case the Buddha (in India) and Bodhidharma (in China) and Lineage refers to the concept of Dharma transmission which traces it's origin to the one patriarch.

I'm sorry for the delay in the reply; If you'll take a look here you'll see that I have not worked since 21:00, 12 May 2007. I was involved in a minor accident and may not be able to contribute in the near future as well.

The patriarch article should be expanded using Kūkai and Hōnen Shōnin. I'll try do it myself using only the best sources available. This merge was proposed only by Knverma and carried on only by Knverma.

You'll notice that only Knverma carried out the blanking of Bodhidharma from this discussion.

Any objections to the merge? --Knverma 08:34, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Merged. --Knverma 11:05, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

Regards,

1. Bodhidharma (6th century CE), legendary Indian monk who is credited with the establishment of the Chan (Zen) school of Buddhism that flourished in East Asia. Considered the 28th Indian successor in a direct line from the Buddha Gotama, Bodhidharma is recognized by the Chinese Chan schools as their first patriarch. - Merriam-Webster's Encyclopedia of World Religions By Wendy Doniger, Merriam-Webster

_{Freedom skies| talk}  09:46, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

==User:Aivazovsky==--Iantresman 17:48, 19 May 2007 (UTC) Aivazovsky (talk · contribs) has been placed on a revert parole by the Arbitration Committee. The final decision in his case is here: Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_arbitration/Armenia-Azerbaijan#Aivazovsky_placed_on_revert_parole. He has to discuss every single revert that he makes on the talk page.

However, User:Aivazovsky blatantly continues to violate his revert parole, and keeps making reverts without any discussion. Here is his latest revert without any discussion whatsoever on the Demographics of Armenia article:

(revert to the version ).

(the history of edits for the article is here:)

He made the revert just 23 minutes after he was warned on his talk page by an administrator about his continuous violations of his revert parole (). Such behaviour shows complete disregard of his parole, of administrators, and of the Wiki community in general.

The user has been blocked repeatedly for violating his revert parole. The number of his blocks is astounding (at least 6 violations of his revert parole: ). Clearly, short-term blocks do not work to change this user's disruptive behavior. Therefore, I suggest that User:Aivazovsky be blocked indefinitely.--TigranTheGreat 21:11, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

User:ScienceApologist

User:ScienceApologist has just called me "a complete dick", again., contrary to No personal attacks and WP:CIVIL.

• A previous ArbCom case found that "ScienceApologist is uncivil" and "has strongly and repeated criticized Iantresman with ad hominem attacks"

Despite the ArbCom caution, ScienceApologist subsequently:

• Call me a "bean-counter, not a researcher", that I "lied",, and that I "lied" again, (reported previously)
• Called me the "the Ian peacock" which was noted by another Admin

And just recently:

• I am "a confirmed POV-pusher"
• Having "professed your devotion to this particular guru" (not a tone of writing I'd use)

I was wondering how many personal attacks, incivility, cautions and warnings, need be reached before some positive action is taken? --Iantresman 17:48, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

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