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Regarding the statement that it is "widely but falsely believed" that Rand used the term "intellectual heir" to describe Peikoff: a reference or external link to material indicating why a popularly held view is false would be helpful. -- ] Regarding the statement that it is "widely but falsely believed" that Rand used the term "intellectual heir" to describe Peikoff: a reference or external link to material indicating why a popularly held view is false would be helpful. -- ]

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** Basically states that the action in ''Atlas Shrugged'' took place in the US. BTW, does '''every''' chapter of ''Atlas Shrugged'' really require a separate wikipedia entry??? ] 22:25 Nov 2, 2002 (UTC)
** Holey Moley! There are 209 articles on ], including separate articles on each ''section'' of each chapter; plus endless stub reference articles such as ] and ] (liverwurst, canapes, and something else). Looks like a project someone started, then (naturally) got tired of. Can't imagine anyone filling out any of the stubs.
*** Can't imagine anyone refactoring this mess either. ]
*look kinda interesting to me, be a shame to delete what appears to be a pretty good breakdown of the book ] 15:55 Nov 3, 2002 (UTC)
*** Nobody's really suggesting deleting anything, just commenting on what a mess it is. When little fragments of an article go flying off into their own articles, the reader is not being well served. Here, an important point about the novel, its setting and what it means, has turned into an separate independent article. The article on the novel is made less informative; the separate article is nearly worthless outside the context of the discussion of the novel. I thought reading Ayn Rand was supposed to make one ruthlessly logical. Guess not. ]
*This complex of articles about a cult novel needs a lot of work to reduce it from its 209 articles. The only information on ] is that he served drinks. Does that qualify him to be a brain surgeon? ]
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*] - the entire set of Atlas Shrugged/... articles need to be sorted out.
**This set should be debated: what to do with it? There also seem to be very funky links from this set, made by the original author. For instance, the link "Lilan" in ] links to ]. ] 09:50 Oct 29, 2002 (UTC)
*I will help sort this mess out when/if we agree what to do about it. ]
* I've consolidated all the Character stubs into ] and ]. ]
*If my counting method is correct, there's now about 80 non-redirect Atlas Shrugged articles. Was it really my namesake Tim Shell who created all those articles? -- ] 11:48 Mar 15, 2003 (UTC)
**Yes, that's Tim Shell's baby, but don't be hard on him. The Atlas Shrugged pages date back to the ''very'' beginning of Misplaced Pages, before anyone really knew how things would shape up. They were an experiment, and proved difficult for Misplaced Pages to digest. And, that reminds me of another set of pages to be added here... -- ] 18:42 Mar 21, 2003 (UTC)

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I suggest the external links for the books etc. should be moved to the page on those books (for those which there are pages for). -- Sam


Regarding the statement that it is "widely but falsely believed" that Rand used the term "intellectual heir" to describe Peikoff: a reference or external link to material indicating why a popularly held view is false would be helpful. -- Rethunk


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  • Atlas Shrugged/United States
    • Basically states that the action in Atlas Shrugged took place in the US. BTW, does every chapter of Atlas Shrugged really require a separate wikipedia entry??? Chas zzz brown 22:25 Nov 2, 2002 (UTC)
    • Holey Moley! There are 209 articles on Atlas Shrugged, including separate articles on each section of each chapter; plus endless stub reference articles such as Atlas Shrugged/Atlantic Ocean and Atlas Shrugged/Food (liverwurst, canapes, and something else). Looks like a project someone started, then (naturally) got tired of. Can't imagine anyone filling out any of the stubs.
      • Can't imagine anyone refactoring this mess either. Ortolan88
  • look kinda interesting to me, be a shame to delete what appears to be a pretty good breakdown of the book Lir 15:55 Nov 3, 2002 (UTC)
      • Nobody's really suggesting deleting anything, just commenting on what a mess it is. When little fragments of an article go flying off into their own articles, the reader is not being well served. Here, an important point about the novel, its setting and what it means, has turned into an separate independent article. The article on the novel is made less informative; the separate article is nearly worthless outside the context of the discussion of the novel. I thought reading Ayn Rand was supposed to make one ruthlessly logical. Guess not. Ortolan88
  • This complex of articles about a cult novel needs a lot of work to reduce it from its 209 articles. The only information on Atlas Shrugged/Waiter is that he served drinks. Does that qualify him to be a brain surgeon? Eclecticology

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  • Atlas Shrugged - the entire set of Atlas Shrugged/... articles need to be sorted out.
    • This set should be debated: what to do with it? There also seem to be very funky links from this set, made by the original author. For instance, the link "Lilan" in Atlas Shrugged/Section181 links to Lillian Todaro. olivier 09:50 Oct 29, 2002 (UTC)
  • I will help sort this mess out when/if we agree what to do about it. Koyaanis Qatsi
  • I've consolidated all the Character stubs into Characters in Atlas Shrugged and Minor Characters in Atlas Shrugged. Catherine
  • If my counting method is correct, there's now about 80 non-redirect Atlas Shrugged articles. Was it really my namesake Tim Shell who created all those articles? -- Tim Starling 11:48 Mar 15, 2003 (UTC)
    • Yes, that's Tim Shell's baby, but don't be hard on him. The Atlas Shrugged pages date back to the very beginning of Misplaced Pages, before anyone really knew how things would shape up. They were an experiment, and proved difficult for Misplaced Pages to digest. And, that reminds me of another set of pages to be added here... -- Stephen Gilbert 18:42 Mar 21, 2003 (UTC)