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1. Remember, this is a voluntary action, and does not preclude an RfC or RfAr being initiated by others, should others feel they have no recourse.
2. My "good standing" criteria include

a) the requirement that if the user is calling for recall is an admin, the admin must themselves have been in this category for at least a week.

b) the requirement that the user should be neutral towards my person. This means that if a user is or has been involved in a DR procedure with me as a party, I doubt that user is neutral and I reserve the right to not count this editor as "an editor in good standing" in this case. Hint: it's easy to find a neutral party, like mediators - if you can convince them you are right...

c) I reserve the right to impose additional criteria in the future.

Prodding List of... article

I do not think that you should be prodding List of... articles as you currently are doing. You tried to mass AfD them, and that did not work; nor was there consensus that it was a good idea. Nowhere have I seen evidence of consensus being reached that the deletion is a good thing. I think you should seek to get some consensus before engaging in this exercise. At the moment it appears to be your personal opinion that there's something wrong with these articles; you look like you're rampaging through Misplaced Pages without giving a second thought to other people's opinion.--Tagishsimon (talk)

Yeah, I've read more now & see slightly better where you're coming from. The UK list does seem to be actively maintained. Can't speak for others. Let's see if they get deprodded; I'll stand on the side-lines. --Tagishsimon (talk)

Re:Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Piotrus

I really busy these days, besides I do not see any reason why you cant state your ideas to that is already presented. M.K. 09:39, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

As size can’t affect presenting facts to concrete evidence sections, I find your motives puzzling. However, if you troubled due to count of words - don’t be. If somehow your essay will be wrong due to size and would not be concise etc., clerks or arbitrators probably modify it accordingly or ask you to do it. Besides evidence presentation is continues process rather then onetime. M.K. 11:56, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Questions

Piotrus, I was wondering if you could look at the article. Lately some changes have been made in regards to Khmelnystsky in Jewish History- in fact the article about Khmelnytsky turned into revert war over numbers. I am interested in your opinion. Thanks. --Hillock65 18:40, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your input Piotrus, it was very helpful. I will stay away from it all, I removed all Khmelnytsky articles from my watchlist. I will return later to editing them. Let's see what happens around them in the meantime. As well, I have a favour to ask, I was wondering of your opinion in regards to article Ethnic Russians in Ukraine. I got bogged down in dispute there over Russian imperial terminology and other things. I tagged it as NPOV, but I think it should be upgraded to "totally disputed", as it seems to be an exercise in Russian imperialist revisonism rather than a serious article. It is replete with original research, virtually without any sources to support outlandish claims. I was wondering what you think about it, and whether I should file for RfC or it is too early at this stage? I know you are very busy with other things, so whenever you have time. Thanks in advance. --Hillock65 20:30, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Sorry to bother you again, I had a question regarding the naming conventions. For example, for Gdansk under Germans, we would use the old name or the Polish name? Where can I find more reference on it?--Hillock65 22:41, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

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Talk:Sarmatians#Genetics

The Article for Sarmatians states that there is a genetic connection. However, I fail to see that connection from the sources given. So, I moved it to the discussion page (and yes, I know about the role the Sarmatian connection played for the Polish self view in history - the article makes it clear, too).

In return, I got some vacuous answers on the discussion page, and the paragraph was added again. In order to avoid an edit war, I ask you to be some kind of mediator here, if you like. Since you are Polish, it should help against feelings of anti-Polonism, too. -- Zz 12:55, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

DYK

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User:Nasz

There's a thread at WP:AN about a new Polish user that you may be able to help with. Please see WP:AN#User:Nasz. Thanks. howcheng {chat} 16:17, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

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Minor technicality

(You wrote)
Your post from evidence would probably be better as motion in workshop.-- _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk}  23:43, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Excellent point. Where exactly shall I post my new motion? Would that be under Template 1.1 or perhaps in a different slot? I suppose it's best to inform the parties about my decision by adding a link in its place, right? Workshop page offers a number of slots, i.e.:

1 Motions and requests by the parties

1.1 Template

1.2 Template

1.3 Template etc.

Should I just replace the Template 1.1 with what I wrote originally or is there something I’m expected to add on top of it? --Poeticbent  talk  01:34, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

I think it would be the 'Motions and requests by the parties', but check the rules on that page to be sure. My experience with ArbCom is quite limited I am afraid.-- _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk}  02:12, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Although I’m not a “party” here I’d like to make a solid contribution, so let me get some feedback from Durova who’s made a few good points already on my behalf. We'll see what she says. --Poeticbent  talk  02:49, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Please read the opinion expressed by Durova in response to my query. I tend to agree with her that it is a bit late for a Workshop. Therefore I've concluded that my statement will work best where it is. --Poeticbent  talk  20:14, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

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Kraków szopka

Btw, a new article I wrote for DYK.-- _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk}  03:02, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Good stuff. I spruced up your article just a bit. The main thing to watch for at this point would be the English plural for szopka not being szopki (see: References). --Poeticbent  talk  16:28, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

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Your use of HTML "style="position" (I think) is causing me some problems with the display of this page. — The Storm Surfer 08:09, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Poland articles notice board

Hi Piotrus,

My name is Mark Rodowicz. I am an Australian of Polish descent, in my early 30's. My interests are international politics, languages & films. I wanted to thank you for inviting me to the Poland group. I've been to the Poland site, and I'd be happy to participate when I can. Is there anything more I need to know, or do I just sign up & go from there? Regards, Mrodowicz 14:27, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

The Konieczny connection

My paternal grandmother was a Konieczny, and there are several Konieczny's living in Toledo, Ohio, my hometown. I rarely encounter anyone who shares that last name, so I thought I'd say hello. --Ssbohio 02:30, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

User:EPWA airport

Well, thanks. I've just completed my final exams so I'll have more time to participate and write new articles. PS Maybe we should make Template:Infobox Polish Cabinet or so? There is an American version and I think it's worth converting to Polish governments and ministries EPWA airport 05:49, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Poland group participation

Thanks Piotrus - Regards,Mrodowicz 10:40, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Official name definition

Hello, I'd really appreciate it if you took a look at WP:NCGN and the issue of the official name. There's a huge problem in the Dokdo talk area about the concept of official name. Dokdo is claimed by Korea and Japan and they both have their own official names. (Dokdo and Takeshima). However, some users are saying because Korea has a few soldiers and is at present the 'occupant' of the island then that becomes the official name. I don't think this is in the spirt of the name convention regarding official names: In other words, if one country has a name and it doesn't exist much in English please use that. A simple change to say that there may be more than one official name in an undisputed territory would be helpful. I don't want to instigate the change myself as it would lead to charges of bias.

Many thanks.

Macgruder 11:13, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Dead sockpuppets

Thank you for your kind and thoughtful intervention.

I've been moved to a different hospital today and been able to edit at last using the staff nurses work station.

I'll e-mail you a proper thanks if I ever make it out of here ...Gaimhreadhan • 14:37, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Kraków szopka

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Hi, I saw you found a source for this image. Thanks. However it's not complete. Is there on that Polish page more information? The date when the picture was taken and/or published. The image is probably Public Domain but with just a link to the photo somewhere on the web, we can't be sure. Garion96 (talk) 12:13, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Too bad, I will also look to see if I can find something. But If I am not successful I will tag it as having no source again in a couple of days or so. Garion96 (talk) 18:36, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

What's the Public Domain rule in Poland? With 70 years usually is meant the death of the author/photographer. It is not that unlikely that that has not happened yet. {{PD-Poland}} doesn't work in this case unfortunately. Garion96 (talk) 23:24, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

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This statement is exactly the problem

You've made this request on your RfA:

It is my belief that M.K. should be warned to stop harassment of me and other editors (like Halibutt and Lysy) under a threat of a block, and put on probation from Poland-related articles. Majority of his positive contributions are in the field of Lithuanian architecture and history, unrelated to Poland, it would be a loss to see him go but his disruption of Poland-related articles needs to be put to an end. Some form of mentorship and adoption would be also highly advisable. Considering the neglible positivie content contributions coming from Dr. Dan at all, and vast amount of disruption, I feel that a probation from any Poland-related articles and particulary talk pages is highly advisable and the least strong solution ArbCom should utilize in regard to this editor. Finally, several users (M.K., Jadger, Dr. Dan, Irpen) should be cautioned that they are not neutral and reminded of how Wiki is supposed to work

This shows exactly where I find your communication with other editors to be problematic: threatening with sanctions. It is not up to you to suggest anything here. Let the ArbCom do their work, if you want any sanctions taken against other editors, you could always propose measures at the Workshop subpage, where people can respond to your suggestions directly, and arbitrators can then decide if sufficient support exists for those measures. Right now, this statement of yours just causes a very hostile environment, without anyone being able to do anything about it. I strongly urge you to withdraw this request from your RfAr, or move it to the Workshop subpage. Errabee 09:17, 22 May 2007 (UTC)