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::I also find offensive the accusations of trying to somehow remove anything sympathetic to Russians in Estonia. I work with Russians living in Estonia daily and find most them to be nice people. Mind backing those claims up with some links?--] 21:17, 26 May 2007 (UTC) ::I also find offensive the accusations of trying to somehow remove anything sympathetic to Russians in Estonia. I work with Russians living in Estonia daily and find most them to be nice people. Mind backing those claims up with some links?--] 21:17, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
::::TO Petri Krohn: “] ]”; <small>TO ] of Ghirlandaio: my thought would be lost in translation</small> ] 07:09, 27 May 2007 (UTC) ::::TO Petri Krohn: “] ]”; <small>TO ] of Ghirlandaio: my thought would be lost in translation</small> ] 07:09, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
:::::'''Comment'''. As far as I know, all these users are separate persons - and I seriously doubt they are coordinating their edits off-line. There are two reasons for similarities in their edits - one is that all of them are from Estonia (and I think, also ethnic Estonians), second is Petri Krohn himself - slapping on various tags without any explanations on resp. talk pages, controversial unsourced edits, claiming that article in a peer-reviewed magazine () is "an extremely biased Estonian source" and treating any other (WP valid) published source in the same way if it doesn't fit his views. Repeated uncivil edit comments, inability to accept facts and creating controversial badly (if at all) cited articles (I am more then willing to give evidence for all of those claims, if that is asked). All users named by him have been forced to contradict him at some point, so it seems that he is trying to stop those users - after all, because he is always right, half a dozen users who do not agree with him must be sockpuppets and meatpuppets. ] 09:55, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

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Digwuren

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Filed: 17:04, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

All these users seem to be somehow related to the University of Tartu. They have co-operated in AfD discussions and revert wars. User:Digwuren has systematically reverted all my Estonia related edits for the past three weeks, often in only two minutes. He has received help in avoiding the 3RR from User:Alexia Death, User:3 Löwi and User:Klamber.

User:Digwuren and User:Alexia Death correspond to distinct Internet personalities. They however seem to be coordinating their edits off-line, and possibly editing from the same IP-address. If they are not sockpuppets, they are most likely meatpuppets. They only started editing after the Bronze Soldier of Tallinn controversy and seem to be single-purpouse accounts. Their intent seems to rewrite the History of Estonia, deleting points-of-view that they consider "Soviet occupation denialism" or otherwise symphathetic to Russians in Estonia. -- Petri Krohn 17:04, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

I feel it necessary to point out that Petri Krohn has been throwing out wild accusations at me for quite a while, starting from (and growing through ) through and finally, , not to mention "nice" edit summaries such as , , .
The contention of "somehow related to the University of Tartu" is ridiculous. The University is the largest university in Estonia and a major provider of network services; of *course* most educated people, as well as a number of people caring of network connection, would be "somehow related" to it!
In conclusion, what Petri Krohn has done here is taking a number of people he doesn't like (and for bad reasons I will not enter here, using the last drops of what has remained of my belief into his good faith), throwing wild generalisations at them in the hope that *something will stick*, and then applied for the checkuser procedure as a form of harassment. Digwuren 19:45, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
I find accusations of being someones meatpuppet offensive. I haven't been a registered user on wikipedia for long and became active mostly because of the recent controversies. Thus I am interested in articles that overlap Digwurens and are concerning history and present of Estonia. We live in the same country so our views are likely to be similar. However I am very sure that our IP-s don't overlap. I post from two locations and both have pretty much static IP-s. --Alexia Death 20:57, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
I also find offensive the accusations of trying to somehow remove anything sympathetic to Russians in Estonia. I work with Russians living in Estonia daily and find most them to be nice people. Mind backing those claims up with some links?--Alexia Death 21:17, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
TO Petri Krohn: “Uinuv mõistus sünnitab koletisi”; TO the watchful eye of Ghirlandaio: my thought would be lost in translation E.J. 07:09, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
Comment. As far as I know, all these users are separate persons - and I seriously doubt they are coordinating their edits off-line. There are two reasons for similarities in their edits - one is that all of them are from Estonia (and I think, also ethnic Estonians), second is Petri Krohn himself - slapping on various tags without any explanations on resp. talk pages, controversial unsourced edits, claiming that article in a peer-reviewed magazine (Nordic Journal of International Law) is "an extremely biased Estonian source" and treating any other (WP valid) published source in the same way if it doesn't fit his views. Repeated uncivil edit comments, inability to accept facts and creating controversial badly (if at all) cited articles (I am more then willing to give evidence for all of those claims, if that is asked). All users named by him have been forced to contradict him at some point, so it seems that he is trying to stop those users - after all, because he is always right, half a dozen users who do not agree with him must be sockpuppets and meatpuppets. DLX 09:55, 27 May 2007 (UTC)