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**I also ask for a double-check. However I also ask that {{checkuser|DLX}} be included. He was earlier checked against Digwuren but was not confermed. (See: ]) -- ] 14:17, 29 May 2007 (UTC) **I also ask for a double-check. However I also ask that {{checkuser|DLX}} be included. He was earlier checked against Digwuren but was not confermed. (See: ]) -- ] 14:17, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
* I can vouch for ] who I have observed editing since July 2005, so it is absurd that he is a sock puppet of ] who has been here since May 2007. Also ] hasn't been as involved to any degree compared with the other's, so I am surprised he is caught up in this. A check of their respective logs will confirm this ] 12:35, 29 May 2007 (UTC) * I can vouch for ] who I have observed editing since July 2005, so it is absurd that he is a sock puppet of ] who has been here since May 2007. Also ] hasn't been as involved to any degree compared with the other's, so I am surprised he is caught up in this. A check of their respective logs will confirm this ] 12:35, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
* I fell uncomfortable in revealing users personal details; this is starting to be ]. Besides, there is nothing wrong in asking your friends to contribute to Misplaced Pages.
**This is what I believe:
***], ] and ] are real people. They are all current or former students of the ], and all still live in in Tartu.
****Two of them have been succesfull at the Estonia student "olympics".
****Two of them started studies around 1998.
****One of them majored in ], another is also an expert in this field.
***Digwuren and Alexia correspond to real internet persona. They both run web servers on their own registered domains. Their real names are listed in the ] data.
**I do not think these three are real sockpuppets. I find it likely that they are ]. It is possible that they coordinate their activities off-line. It is possible that they contribute from the same network, possible from free ]s in Tartu. (Estonia has many of these, see ). -- ] 14:54, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

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Digwuren

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Filed: 17:04, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

All these users seem to be somehow related to the University of Tartu. They have co-operated in AfD discussions and revert wars. User:Digwuren has systematically reverted all my Estonia related edits for the past three weeks, often in only two minutes. He has received help in avoiding the 3RR from User:Alexia Death, User:3 Löwi and User:Klamber.

User:Digwuren and User:Alexia Death correspond to distinct Internet personalities. They however seem to be coordinating their edits off-line, and possibly editing from the same IP-address. If they are not sockpuppets, they are most likely meatpuppets. They only started editing after the Bronze Soldier of Tallinn controversy and seem to be single-purpouse accounts. Their intent seems to rewrite the History of Estonia, deleting points-of-view that they consider "Soviet occupation denialism" or otherwise symphathetic to Russians in Estonia. -- Petri Krohn 17:04, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

 Confirmed. Alexia Death = Erik Jesse = 3 Löwi = Klamber.  Possible that this is Digwuren too. Voice-of-All 05:53, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

As a participant I demand to know what are the grounds to this claim, as it is clearly INCORRECT.--Alexia Death 06:14, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
P.S : Ive notified users 3 Löwi and Klamber of this result, I fail to contact Erik Jesse because I have opted not to send and recive mail trough wikipedia.--Alexia Death 06:28, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
P.S.S: Ive posted from two IP-s, one ending in .111, thats my home, and the other ending in .202, thats what Im posting from now, at work. Its a big place so I cant be 100% sure theres not another poster within same walls but I SERIOUSLY doubt it.--Alexia Death 06:42, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Perhaps, there are some fundamental flaws in the checkuser mechanism for the context of Estonia. If it, for example, would consider all of Estonia's IP space a "single dynamic pool", or assign undue weight to common web proxies such as cache.ut.ee or cache.elion.ee, it would be bound to think there are at most one, or perhaps two, people in Estonia.
  • As an aside, Alexia Death is female. The rest of the list are, AFAIK, all male. (I am not entirely sure of 3 Löwi's gender thus far.)
  • I read the articles on checkuser, and it seems I considered it more automated than it really was. Apparently, a not inconsiderable amount of operator discretion goes into the decisions. Hence, I join in Alexia Death's demands to know what the evidence was and how it was interpreted.