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********In which legal system? Your statement is simply bollocks. If a subordinate commits a crime on his own initiative, the commanding officer is not responsible. ] 04:44, 30 May 2007 (UTC) ********In which legal system? Your statement is simply bollocks. If a subordinate commits a crime on his own initiative, the commanding officer is not responsible. ] 04:44, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
********Per Balcer statement, even if you are right in some systems (I am not sure about how was this viewed in SPR military), this is certainly not clear to most casual readers, and we should avoid confusing hooks.--<sub><span style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">]|]</span></sub> 05:24, 30 May 2007 (UTC) ********Per Balcer statement, even if you are right in some systems (I am not sure about how was this viewed in SPR military), this is certainly not clear to most casual readers, and we should avoid confusing hooks.--<sub><span style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">]|]</span></sub> 05:24, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
::: I suggest you guys move your all too predictable bickering to some other page. Irpen's nomination has the finest hook, but it should be shortened. Alternative nominations basically have no hook. Here's my suggestion: *...that after ''']''' in ] the Polish perpetrators were promoted in rank? --]<sup>]</sup> 10:21, 30 May 2007 (UTC)


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Articles created on May 28

  • ...that four Japanese War Memorials found in the Japanese Cemetery Park were built without knowledge of the British colonial government of Singapore? -- Self nom 11:59, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Articles created on May 27

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Better: "that the pasilalinic-sympathetic compass was a hoax which purported to show a telepathic connection between snails? DS 19:36, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
I disagree there - mentioning that it is a hoax reduces the impact of the hook. violet/riga (t) 23:47, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
  • comment:The hook (and the article) has a factual error and needs to be changed, The Archers is actually the world's longest running radio drama, with with over 15,000 episodes since 1951 and still airing on BBC radio 4.
  • Suggested change: ...that Matysiakowie is both the most popular radio drama in Poland and one of the longest running in the world, with over 2600 episodes broadcasted since 1956? . . . . . . suggestion by --Eqdoktor 06:46, 28 May 2007 (UTC) - note that the article needs to be changed also to correct the error.
(Enlarged from 162 words of text on May 26th to 870 words)Cas Liber | talk | contribs 11:24, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

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How about this short and concise version:
  • ...that in the 1919 Pinsk massacre thirty-five Jewish residents of Pinsk were executed by the Polish Army? Balcer 22:12, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
    • Piotrus' hook is out of the question since it's weaselising. Balcer's hook is OK bye the factuality but is it attention catching enough? So, what is the curious detail? That in massacre 35 people were shot? Or that they were shot by the PL Army? Or that they were Jews? Point is that in that war when the Polish army captured cities Jews were often abused anyway. The non-trivial detail that the commander gets promoted in the aftermath of the massacre seems a better hook than the very fact that the murder took place. But I leave it to whoever is on duty when the time for an update is up. --Irpen 02:21, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
      • What weaseling? It is your version that is a non-neutral weasel, my vesion quotes directly from the article. That an officer got promoted during a major war is not suprising, that civilian on all sides (there were far more than two) suffered is not suprising neither; that an international commission investigated this incident is however more interesting. Balcer factual version also seems like a reasonable compromise.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk  02:29, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
        • The problem I have with Irpen's version is that it suggests that the Polish Army approved of the massacre and rewarded the officer responsible by promoting him. However, there is no evidence of that in the article itself, hence that hook is misleading. Balcer 02:36, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
          • This is deriving too much from my version. The only thing it implies is that the officer's presiding over a massacre did not prevent him from being promoted, while the promotion may have been for other reasons. And this is exactly what happened. --Irpen 02:53, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
            • This is not what your version is implying, and anyway as I mentioned earlier you are making errors: for example, the officer who ordered the massacre (unammed lieutant) and the officer who got promoted (major -> colonel Łuczyński) are not the same person... -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk  04:06, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
              • Another mischaracterization here. My version speaks about the officer under whose command the incident took place, not the officer who ordered the shooting. In the military, you know, the superiors are held responsible for actions that take place under their command even if they did not directly order them. --Irpen 04:34, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
I suggest you guys move your all too predictable bickering to some other page. Irpen's nomination has the finest hook, but it should be shortened. Alternative nominations basically have no hook. Here's my suggestion: *...that after executing thirty-five Jewish civilians in Pinsk the Polish perpetrators were promoted in rank? --Ghirla 10:21, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Articles created on May 26

(expanded from obits following recent death) -- ALoan (Talk) 16:38, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

Articles created on May 25

"...not scientifically supported and damaging..." could be misinterpreted as "...not...damaging...". I would change that version to "...is scientifically unsupported, and damaging to the Russian economy?" Art LaPella 01:25, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
Yes, that sounds a lot better. ~ UBeR 19:36, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
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  • Yes...short-ish, but I think that it is long enough to qualify as a non-stub DYK. I'm still looking for more info on the team and the league. I hope to have another match summary up in a couple days. I didn't make it to all the matches, but a mate did and wrote it up in the paper.--Eva 18:33, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
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  • ...that British music publisher Boosey & Hawkes owns copyrights to much major 20th century music, including works by Bartók, Bernstein, Britten, Elliott Carter, Prokofiev, Rachmaninoff, Steve Reich and Stravinsky? Expanded from stub and nominated by Jacklee 02:16, 25 May 2007 (UTC); amended Jacklee 22:30, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
    • Suggest narrowing the list to three components and listing the full names. — Deckiller 16:11, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
      • We can remove one or two names if you think the hook is too long (although it's only slightly over the 200-character limit), but I think it may be better to show more than three names because the significance of this hook is that Boosey & Hawkes owns the copyrights of many well-known 20th-century composers. It is probably unnecessary to state these famous composers' first names, as they are all known simply by their surnames. Cheers, Jacklee 23:15, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
    • Can we get a %? That would be more informative. Thanks, Blnguyen (cranky admin anniversary) 07:32, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
      • What do you mean? Cheers, Jacklee 15:50, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
        • I think he means something like they own the copyrights to 50% of the music published in the UK in the twentieth century. I think such a number would be difficult to find or verify, though. Personally, I think the original hook is fine, as the list of composers reflects a number of styles. I would add a minimalist and serialist to expand the variety. Since the nom says "works by" and not "complete catalogue," we could add (say) Steve Reich and Elliott Carter? Having at least one more recent composer is good too. Finally, last names seems ok to me here, because if you don't recognize them in a list like that you probably don't know who they are by their full names, either. Rigadoun (talk) 20:10, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
      • I suppose you could use an "objective" measure of "great" 20th century composers, and see what percentage of those composers Boosey & Hawkes owns copyrights for. Needless to say, it's somewhat arbitrary to define who a "major" composer is, but perhaps using any reputable list would suffice. For example, here is the BBC Music Magazine's poll of their reader's favorite 20th Century Composers
1.Britten 2.Vaughan Williams 3.Shostakovich / Stravinsky 4.Sibelius 5.Bartok / Elgar / Prokofiev / Simpson / Strauss 6.Rachmaninoff 7.Gershwin / Glass / Gorecki / Janacek / Lutoslawski / Messiaen / Poulenc / Tippett 8.Barber / Berg / Bernstein / Birtwhistle / Copland / Delius / Nielsen / Schwantner / Takemitsu / Tavener / Villa-Lobos
      • I don't have any information on the percentage of music copyrights by great composers held by Boosey & Hawkes, and agree it would be difficult to find out as well as to define which ones are "great". As suggested by Rigadoun, I've taken out two of the composers from the original list and added Elliott Carter and Steve Reich. I thought it might be better to give their full names as they might not be familiar to readers (or to me), but feel free to edit the hook and take out their first names if you think it would be more consistent just to state their surnames. Cheers, Jacklee 22:30, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
  • ...that Bill Johnston, the fastest bowler to take 100 Test wickets, took his career best figures immediately after a near fatal car crash as a result of falling asleep at the wheel? expanded massively, slef nom, Blnguyen (cranky admin anniversary) 08:45, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

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The merge issue must be dealt with before this entry can be considered. Aquarius &#149; talk 01:23, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
Way too short. Aquarius &#149; talk 19:45, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

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