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Hello and welcome to the talk page of YourLord. Feel free to talk amongst yourselves and write me fanmail and hatemail and threat-mail and chain-mail and Alpha-mail and fe-mail (my personal favourite although I'll go for just mail if I have to) and whatever other forms of mail you may happen to think of. All in all, chat and have a good time. I won't be here often what with my wild social life and all that jazz, lol.
Finally!
Now I can attach a name to your anonymous arse. But seriously, well done, I hope we continue to have many great discussions. Like the name although they all coming begging to Ashnard sometime or another. So...Good luck with your new username. Ashnard Talk 06:31, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
Signature Problem
Hey "YourLord", there is a problem with your signature, it's got <sub> at the end which makes everything below it change text, you need to have it as </sub>. It looks like I'll have to stop calling you Anon now. Ashnard Talk 06:40, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
Ah thank you. Yes, indeed you will. And as you say you'll finally be able to attach a name to my anonymous arse. And Thecolourrose isn't here to nag us. ARSE!
Stop recreating deleted material
"Dark Lord" is deleted material. Your creations "The Dark Lord" and "Dark Lord (Character trope)" are seen as attempts to circumvent deletion policy. Please stop.~Zythe 17:36, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
Re-creating deleted material is perfectly acceptable assuming the person re-creating it is doing a better job of it than the last imbecile. My article on The Dark Lord character trope was the stuff of feature articles and you deleted it. Let's see if you could do it any better! YourLord
- It's not about "better", it's about the subject not being reliably sourced, objective and notable enough to exist beyond the page on fantasy tropes. And for the record, I probably could.~Zythe 19:17, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
- Is that a challenge?
>I wouldn't count on it< 72.134.69.228 05:06, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
And who might you be?
- Somebody from Granada Hills, California? Did an IP scan.~Zythe 15:38, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
- Oh I see. Cheeky bugger. Not you, him.
Teh! California? Hardly! Hunting...Go to the Bucky talkpage Anon, or whatever your Chester wants to be called!Beth-the-poe
Dear lady what are you on about? And it's YourLord
Nothing. Just bored. Oh, and I don't give a care about your new user name, Anon. Heh heh.
Do not mention the name of my feeble former self you insolent little twerp. It's YourLord, YourLord do you here me? And I'm called that for a reason.
YourLord Talk 23:36, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
That's no fun Anon! Beth-the-poe
Categories
YourLord: In a couple of your recent edits to pages concerning Bionicle, you added the pages to some categories that they were not suited for. For example: Karzahni is not a "Death god"; he is the ruler of a rather unpleasant realm where Matoran are punished, but he is not a "Death god". I understand that you are trying to be helpful, but in the future please remember to fully consider whether the given page is suitable for the given category. Thank you. -- -- Gravitan 00:06, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
Ah. Righto.
YourLord Talk 12:41 AM, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
Block
Because of your persistant recreations of deleted material, I have blocked you indefinitely.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 00:07, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
You misspelled persistent. Ashnard Talk 10:20, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
Ah. So sorry. I'll stop. Ashnard it's quite alright. Perhaps I had it coming.
Ban?
You can appeal for this you know. Even if you were wrong, you should be at least be given the knowledge of when the ban will be anulled. Were you given a warning? Ashnard Talk 10:30, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
No, regrettably not.
I suggest that you don't appeal for the ban to be relieved, but appeal for a strict timeline of the ban and not something indefinite. You could also explain your actions while doing this, which could maybe gain you some sort of leway. I really do think they're too harsh, although I'm not fully aware of the circumstances. Ashnard Talk 08:20, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
Well as you know my opinions frequently clash with those of other people on Misplaced Pages particularly regarding categories, see the Karzahni discussion further up the page. Now in my opinion we do need a Dark Lord category and a number of people agree with me on this so when I go registered the first thing I did was create that category because let's face it people it's not really hard to define whether a character's a Dark Lord or not although I can see why it's been deleted as I suppose some people can get a bit silly adding characters like Venom and Lex Luthor to the category (believe it or not I actually had to remove the Green Goblin and the Joker from it the other day - how are they Dark Lords? There are some mad people in the world). But I fail to see why the Fictional megalomaniacs category was deleted because it's not hard to define whether or not a character's a megalomaniac. You just have to want to rule a certain area of land like Townsville or the universe and/or control everything around you. It's not like I'd re-created some hugely controversial category like Fictional narcissists (another category I thought never should have been deleted). But no the Gods of Misplaced Pages didn't see it that way and banned me. Maybe it was a bit naughty of me re-creating two previously deleted categories and a previously deleted article (twice) within the same month but you still have to see my chain of reasoning. Now I admit I've misbehaved and I do deserve to be banned but in my defence when the ban is lifted I will refrain from re-creating any previously deleted categories (no matter how strong the urge is) and any previously deleted articles. For a while. I mean really at the end of the day categories will always cause arguments, the only way you can stop that is to delete the category template altogether. Oh dear, I've given them ideas now haven't I.
Fictional gingers was a bit suspect though ;). I think you're taking this well, I feel really indignant when this sort of thing happens to me – although that's not very often. Ashnard Talk 11:43, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
Fictional gingers wasn't actually re-created material although it was similar to the category Fictional redheads which was deleted a while ago although I wasn't aware it existed. I don't think that had anything to do with it. Still, I think that thing about Karzahni not being a death god was a bit idiotic. I mean he's the ruler of a hellish realm where Matoran go after death to be punished. Ergo, he's a death god. And that also qualifies him for the categories of Fictional demons, Fictional deities and Dark Lords. However he's been removed from three of them, the fourth one's been deleted and I've had a letter of complaint about the first one. Yes I suppose I am taking it rather well aren't I.
YourLord Talk 17:40, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
I meant that Fictional gingers was a strange category in the sense of the basis of it, not the regulations and all that rubbish. Why Fictional gingers? Is Ron Weasley so fascinating? Ashnard Talk 17:56, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
No but Ganon and Lauren Cooper are. Imagine Ganon saying "Am I bovvered?" to Link during their final showdown. Oh they should do that in one of the games. And have Ganon appear in a sketch on The Catherine Tate Show doing gingers 4 justice or something like that. Lol! Oh by the way how do I do a link to another website. I want to be able to do a link to my MySpace, Ashy darling.
Okay, a few things here. First of all, the realm of Karzahni is not a place Matoran go after they die; they are perfectly alive when they are sent there; and it was originally a place where they went to be repaired, so Death god catagory out the window. He is not worshipped either, so there goes Fictional deities. And since he does not rule over an underworld of any kind, say bye-bye to Fictional demons. Second, this is a chracter in a line of toys; you don't need to put it in such harsh catagories. Third, there is no reason to brand my decision as an "idiotic" one, even if it were. It is okay to be polite around here; being the opposite is a good way to make sure people don't take you seriously. And lastly, if you really intend to stop the acts that got you banned, I will help in any way I can to get you un-blocked. I prefer to assume good faith, as all of us should. -- -- Gravitan 23:17, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
Guys, let's agree that honesty is the best policy. Only treat others how you want to be treated yourselves. For external links, just copy-and-paste the web address and stick 1 "[" around each side. Like this:
And then you can stop it being a number by doing this: Misplaced Pages
Ashnard Talk 12:56, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
Alright, alright, maybe I was a bit harsh when I said the decision was "idiotic". I wasn't calling you idiotic I was calling your decision idiotic. Still, I fail to see how Karzahni being a character in a line of toys makes him any less serious or "harsh" a character. Ever seen He-Man? That started off as a line of toys and the arch-villain, Skeletor is widely regarded as an icon of evil. But yes maybe I'm starting to get a bit vehement again, sorry. Oh and thank you anonymous person for showing me that, it will come in very handy.
That anonymous guy was me – I forgot to sign. Ashnard Talk 12:56, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
Ah splendid. Feel free to go to my myspace. It's relatively new so I've only got three friends on it at the moment. I've yet to add the other 250.
Ashy, are you still there?
Like I'd ever leave you (not in that way). I'm a bit time-tied beacuse I've been typing off some English coursework. Nice Myspace, although I don't really bother with all that stuff. If you are still in the dark about your block, then you really should appeal for ssome sort of notice. I guess it's not fun being confined to your talkpage, mine is getting a bit dusty because you're not there – I haven't heard of Peregrine in a while. Ashnard Talk 06:47, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
Steady on Ashnard! Speaking of English coursework I took my English GCSE yesterday. Went rather well if I do say so myself, I did a lovely essay on My Last Duchess by Robert Browning and that woefully tedious book To Kill A Mockingbird by drugged-up Americano Harper Lee. Despite the fact that it's the most dull book known to man it's actually relatively simple to understand once you get past the American neanderthal speech. My Last Duchess is a fascinating poem however. Browning was a very clever man. He wrote rather amusing poems on the subject of psychopathy. Do you know I'm beginning to worry a little about Peregrine. You don't think that maybe she felt that you were ignoring her and went and ended it all do you? Oh well, life goes on.
YourLord Talk 14:10, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
Bollocks to that, she'd always write a message on my talk page and then I'd reply. We used to talk quite a lot but then she just became less enthusiastic about it. I can't say that I've had the pleasure of reading either of them books. I'm a year behind you which makes me a Year 10 – I guess that makes you my senior. Ashnard Talk 17:49, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
Hmm, apparently so. And it's those books. Not them books you fool. My Last Duchess is a poem, not a book but To Kill A Mockingbird is a book and a rather dreadful book in my opinion although the majority of the American public would probably disagree, being the twits that they are. Maybe Perry's just gone on holiday. A very long holiday in a place with no internet access. Jesus, imagine that. A long holiday in an LEDC. (*Shudder*) Perish the thought!
YourLord Talk 19:50, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
Damn it! I was considering that when I typed it but my lazy arse didn't changed it. Okay, to balance things in the grammar wars, you spelt "definitely" as "definately" on your Myspace. LEDC? Have you taken Geography at school for GCSE as I have. Ashnard Talk 19:37, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
- You've also put: "I have an interest in literature and film and music and fashion" Need I explain this one? They teach against that sort of thing in Year 2. 3-2 in the grammar wars I believe. Ashnard Talk 19:44, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
- You also misspelled "religiously" as "religously". May I continue with the assault on your grammar?
YourLord, your language is apalling. If you would like my help in getting you un-blocked (if there is a way for me to help), then please clean up your rather insulting language. You lose more of my respect with each message you leave, and though I would like to assume good faith, your case makes me question the wisdom of that. -- -- Gravitan 20:30, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
He seems to be at ease with the ban (I know, it's strange); I've alraedy offered him help about how to appeal. Ashnard Talk 21:03, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
Good God, did I actually write that? Oh dear I shall rectify it immediately. I assume I was going to write one thing then got carried away writing other things and didn't notice how many times I'd written the word "and." How embarassing. With regards to religiously I assume I didn't hit the "i" key hard enough. I've also misspelled grandparents I notice. Now that we've addressed my grammatical errors, let's start on yours. "Didn't changed it"? And it's already, not alraedy. Duh! Ashnard I think you mean "change it." My apologies if I've caused offence Gravitan. I assume by appalling language you're referring to my use of the Lord's Name in Vain. Please point out any other things I've written that have offended you and I shall rectify them. I do mean my insults in good humour I think it's just because you can't see my face you fail to pick up on the nuances of what I'm saying. YourLord Talk 23:15, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
The "already"-"alraedy" thing is a typo not a spello (as is religiously you led me to believe.) That "changed it" thing must have meant I was tired, usually when I do things like that, it means I've been interrupted inbetween and haven't thought about what I typed previously. So embarrassing – not embarassing.
Ah, I realise now – previously I had typed: "I was considering that when I typed it but my lazy arse "never" changed it" I thought never wasn't suitable so I changed it to "didn't" without looking at the content around it. D'oh! I won't be leaving any messages today as I'll be gone somewhere today – but I can't tell you where – it's a mystery. I guess it's kind of arrogant of me to assume that you'd want to know. Ashnard Talk 06:14, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
Indeed Ashnard and if you're hoping for me to ask I'm afraid to say I'm going to have to disappoint you. YourLord Talk 14:09, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
I understand that your language is in good humor, but how is everyone supposed to know that? As you said, "I think it's just because you can't see my face you fail to pick up on the nuances of what I'm saying". If I can't pick it up, then chances are neither can other people. And I know that you are (from what I have seen) a young high-school student, but that is no excuse to use profanity or religiously insulting remarks. It makes folks angry and is most certainly a factor in getting you banned. I do not aim to change your way of putting your thoughts into words; I would simply like to relate to you that you should be a little more polite about the manner in which you do it. And now, seeing as that matter has been studied, is there any way I can help with your block? -- -- Gravitan 14:10, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
I don't think there is, no. I suppose I shall just have to wait for it to be annulled. Thanks anyway. YourLord Talk 14:09, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
Okay, guys, it's time to stop using this page as a chat room. Failure to do so could lead to trouble for all of us. If YourLord would like to get un-blocked, he can see to that matter himself. Enough has been said about his block, and it is time to get back to what we were doing. YourLord, I wish you the best of luck, and hope to see you again in the future. Seeing as there seems to be nothing that I can do to help, I am done discussing this; the only exception being to leave a warning (which I have no problem doing) if this page continues to be used as a forum. -- -- Gravitan 22:15, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
Thank you Gravitan but before you depart please enlighten me as to what my talk page should be used for. YourLord Talk 14:09, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
For the sole purpose of clarity, let me inform you that a talk page should be used for discussing a User's edits, not their homework. There has been only a little of that here, but that does not change the fact that it is here at all. I hope that clears it up for you. -- -- Gravitan 00:02, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
Ah, thank you.
YourLord Talk 14:09, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
I stated at the beginning of my talk page that I was uncertain about doing this. Seeing as I've already been warned about this, it may be wise to figure something to do from now on. Ashnard Talk 19:19, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
Hmm. Maybe so. I feel a bit of editing needs to be done on the Fictional portrayals of psychopaths page, a fascinating article nonetheless. If you wish to talk to me casually feel free to contact me over MySpace.
YourLord Talk 14:09, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
I also believe that Fictional portrayals of psychopaths needs some work. Ashnard Talk 08:24, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
Someone keeps taking the White Witch out of the Femmes fatales section which I find quite annoying. Might just be my morbid obsession with The Chronicles of Narnia though, lol.
YourLord Talk 11:42, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
I can't say I'm a big fan myself. Have you tried reasoning with this person or do you simply revert their edits? Ashnard Talk 10:38, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
No I just revert their edits and hope they don't notice. I like to avoid arguments you see.
YourLord Talk 15:16, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
I'd question why they were doing this in a diplomatic way, or else the routine will continue and it will get tiresome for both people. Ashnard Talk 16:03, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
As soon as I'm unblocked, I'll reason with them.
YourLord Talk 21:21, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
Just make sure the authorities here haven't forgot about you; remember, it's indefinite – it's not like he has to consider the block at all. Ashnard Talk 07:52, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
HELLO, AUTHORITIES, DON'T FORGET ABOUT ME WILL YOU? I'M STILL BLOCKED, LOL!
YourLord Talk 19:57, 29 May 2007 (UTC) (do you think they heard me?)
Pfff, as I've said berore, you really should appeal officially. Ashnard Talk 09:05, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
As much as I detest asking for help, how do I do that?
YourLord Talk 12:45, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
- Place the {{I'll be a good boy}} template onto this talk page, along with your reason for requesting it. -- Longhair\ 11:52, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
YourLord, Copy-and-paste that template below then remove the "tl" thing on it. Once you're ready, fire away. Ashnard Talk 14:15, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
unblock|1=I'll be a good boy}
Your request for unblocking has been declined due to your history of vandalism and/or disruption to this encyclopedia. However, we are willing to give you another chance provided that you can earn back the trust of the Misplaced Pages community. To be unblocked you need to demonstrate that you are willing and able to contribute positively to Misplaced Pages. You can do this by:
- Familiarizing yourself with our basic rules.
- Pick any pre-existing article you wish to improve.
- If you have trouble choosing an article to improve, see this index of articles needing improvement for ideas.
- Click View source on that article.
- Copy and paste the contents of that page at the bottom of your talk page under a new top-level heading (like this:
= Article title =) - Propose some significant and well researched improvements to your article by editing your personal copy of the article.
- When are you are done with your work, re-request unblocking and an administrator will review your proposed edits.
- If we are convinced that your proposed edits will improve Misplaced Pages as an encyclopedia, you will be unblocked and placed on probation.
If you need help while working with your proposed edits, you may add "{{helpme|your question here}}" to your talk page. Thank you. --Yamla 16:48, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
I think vandalism is a slight exaggeration although disruption might be a little more accurate. As I have said my opinions regarding articles frequently come into conflict with the opinions of others, particularly regarding categories. Admittedly I have misbehaved a little and abused my power now that I have become registered so maybe I do deserve a time-out period. Nervertheless I will take your recomendations onboard Miss Yamla but for the time being I think I will remain stationary and wait for the block to expire.
YourLord Talk 19:39, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
Good luck, but something tells me that her "recommendations" are the only way out of this. You can't "wait for the block to expire" as their is no time or date set for which you can anticipate. Ashnard Talk 09:44, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
Oh I can wait, don't underestimate me. YourLord Talk 16:56, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
What for, a new computer. It is unlikely that it is a matter of patience or waiting anyway. I feel that a sense of dignity or pride is involved with you and this matter YourLord, which is detrimental to you in this issue. I don't believe I've underestimated you at all, by the way. Ashnard Talk 17:35, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
I apologise if I caused you offence. I suppose you are right. YourLord Talk 10:54, 32 May 2007 (UTC) There is a 32nd of May isn't there?
No problem. I wasn't really offended – I'm not an American i.e. easily offended. No, there isn't a 32nd of May. By the way, I was once blocked – it was a huge misunderstanding – you can see my block appeal if you look at the bottom of the archive page on my talk page. One more thing, do you use the four tildes when you sign? You know the ~~~~. Something tells me you're doing it manually. Ashnard Talk 10:55, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
Indeed, indeed. I know ur not a Yank despite what I thought when we first encountered one another on the Ganon talk page. U have 2 admit it was quite confusing with all those different new names and what not, lol. So u think I should make another appeal but just say that it was a huge misunderstanding. Well it doesn't have the same ring 2 it as "monumental cock-up" but I suppose it's a bit less profane and a bit more likely 2 go down well with the Administrators' dainty tastes. Oh and by the way b4 u ask why I'm writing this post like a text, I just felt like it LMAO!
YourLord Talk 22:18, Seeing as there is no 32 May I suppose that makes 2day the 1st of June 2007 (UTC)
Do what you want but I'd just follow his/her recommendations and help clean up one of the pages by following the instructions listed above. Ashnard Talk 09:35, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
Very well then. YourLord Talk 13:58 2nd of June 2007 (UTC)
I think the article on Skulduggery Pleasant needs work. I feel the other main characters such as Nefarian Serpine, Ghastly, Tanith and Mr Bliss deserve character sections in the article and I also believe each character might need their own individual article. Additionally I think that the obvious HP Lovecraft influences need to be mentioned and the similarities to Doctor Who and Hellboy that I noticed whilst reading the book might warrant a mention as well even if it is just in the "See also" section. Furthermore in Stephanie's character section it says that she is without doubt the "near-equal" of the adults. I consider this a gross understatement and more than that a rather ageist comment. Stephanie proves at numerous points during the book that she is every bit the equal of most of the adults, if not their superior. If I'd read something like "near-equal" when I was twelve I would have been really quite offended but then again I am a bit touchy like that. YourLord Talk 17:10 2nd of June 2007 (UTC)
Furthermore I notice that some bright spark has removed Malthazar, the evil wizard from Arthur and the Minimoys from the category of Fictional magic-users. YourLord Talk 17:15 2nd of June 2007 (UTC)
I kind of wish I'd read some of these. My main aim in Misplaced Pages is to improve the Fire Emblem articles. Some of them are shocking. Ashnard Talk 19:47, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
Fascinating, now Ashy darling, could you do YourLord a big favour? A big, big favour? And don't get your hopes up, I'm straight. Could you install the aforementioned Malthazar into the category of Fictional magic-users please? Because it's just going to drive me mad until someone does it. And feel free to have a look at the article while you're at it. I did it all myself, it's rather good if I do say so myself. Could just do with an image. No you don't have to do that. YourLord Talk 21:38 2nd of June 2007 (UTC)
Aww, you got me excited there. NOTE: This is a joke, Ashnard identifies himself as heterosexual. I've done the category thing. I can't help with images because of the copyrighting mine field and I just shy away from that copyright stuff. I can't make a habit of this YourLord, acting as your conduit by which you edit can get me in to bother. I'd be struck down from where I stand by the Wiki-gods. Ashnard Talk 20:47, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
Quite alright. This was a one off. No, I'm not good with images either, it was just the category thing I wanted you to do. Thank you by the way. And sorry to disappoint you. YourLord Talk 21:38 2nd of June 2007 (UTC)
I've left some comments on the discussion page of the article if you want to have a look. Ashnard Talk 21:36, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
Ah, thank you. I'll go take a look. YourLord Talk 11:49 3rd of June 2007 (UTC)
Yeah, one thing that annoys me about Wikiquote is that your account is not transferred over there from Misplaced Pages, so I'd have to create a new Ashnard account to edit there as user. Ashnard Talk 11:30, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
Hmm, yes I agree. You can still edit there though. YourLord Talk 21:38 2nd of June 2007 (UTC)
True. But I don't like editing as an IP address. Ashnard Talk 17:33, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
Snob. I've done it for years, lol. YourLord Talk 21:38 2nd of June 2007 (UTC)