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Question

I have a question sir. What was the first article created in wikipedia? I'm curious. RuneWiki777 20:51, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

History of Misplaced Pages is a good place to start to satisfy your curiosity. Misplaced Pages:Misplaced Pages's oldest articles is a more direct answer to your question.-gadfium 23:43, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

I recall many year previously I encounters Misplaced Pages Project website design with the early infant stage. Scholarly review of phenomenon 'Bomis' but my own English language understanding quite disgusting at that contemporary moment. Sorry I do not further detailing information available. Wen Hsing 20:17, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Benevolent Dictator For Life

The article on Benevolent Dictator for Life (despite being unsourced) has you marked as Misplaced Pages's benevolent dictator for life. I remember reading once that you did not like that title and did not assume that title. What's the straight scoop on this? - Chardish 03:51, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

• There was no source so removing your name was straightforward, SqueakBox 04:06, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Yes, it is nonsense. I have often compared my community role to that of constitutional monarch, and specifically to the role of the Queen of England. This is itself just a poor metaphor to explain my desire that my actual role diminish over time to become mostly symbolic. I just want to wave at parades and cut ribbons at ceremonies. :) But for now I actually do still have some work to do. I can only govern here to a slight degree, and only then with the "consent of the government", which mostly means through the support of the most thoughtful and powerful admins. There should be no benevolent dictator of all human knowledge, but neither should we embark on hasty changes to a model which is working. --Jimbo Wales 14:30, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
    • That's not actually the full scope of the rôle of the monarch of the United Kingdom. Don't believe what United Kingdom#Government and politics says. That is original research sourced to a legislative journal. Politics of the United Kingdom#Monarch does a better job, but it misses out several important points (loyalties of military personnel to the monarch rather to the government and the quiet influence reported by both Harold Macmillan and Harold Wilson amongst others) that you can find discussed on pages 318 of ISBN 0415323770 and 13–14 of ISBN 1859419275.

      Now let's see how many people watching this page are willing to take those sources in hand and fix the articles. ☺ Uncle G 12:05, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

• Talking of original research: Directly interviewing the subject for "the straight scoop" is original research, too. The place to be is benevolent dictator#References. Uncle G 12:05, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Agreed, but I believe that would only apply if the interview question wasn't asked and answered publicly, as this was. We don't need a third party to read the diffs of this talk page and then report on it - it's essentially a primary source now. The article on Misplaced Pages, for example, sources dozens of Misplaced Pages pages. I could be in error; I don't pretend to be an expert on classifying sources. - Chardish 16:03, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
• Just wondering, who are the "most thoughtful and powerful admins?" CLA 03:02, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

A day in the life of Jimbo

Just curious, what do you do on an 'average' day, when you aren't dealing with the media or handling some scandal? Do you wake up, have coffee, check your watchlist? Stay in bed and watch the news? Get woken up and have to deal with someone who found your phone number... again? Was wondering what your life is like outside the conferences and interviews -- Phoeba Wright 14:37, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Oh, and more interestingly, how has that changed in the time since you've founded wikipedia, and wikipedia becoming incredibly popular? -- Phoeba Wright 14:38, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Well, for one, he does a lot of traveling, though I don't know what he does on a normal day. Valley2city 22:28, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Well there's one thing we all know for certain: Jimbo gets up, eats, and goes to bed (at the very least). Happy? :P —  $PЯINGrαgђ  04:30, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Are you absolutely sure of that? I was under the impression that he never has the time to be able to go to bed, and the only thing he consumes is raw information... ;) LaughingVulcan 04:59, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

You missed out an important and fundamental function related to eating... :-) Carcharoth 23:19, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

See, this is why I asked this question. If Jimbo is some sort of anus lacking alien, we deserve to know! -- Phoeba Wright 05:02, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Are you absolutely sure of that? I was under the impression that the only thing which emanates from Jimbo is pure logic and well formatted articles... ;) LaughingVulcan 04:59, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Daniel Brandt

You are the last blocking admin of Daniel Brandt, which for the final block I see he is blocked per his request in the block log. He no longer has an article and so has no reason to be angry or sue. He also is listed as community banned but he was un-community banned and he was only blocked per his request so he should not be listed at WP:BANNED, so I request that he be removed from there as it was a requested block and not a ban. I am also suggesting that he should be unblocked because his article is gone but that may depend since his last block said it was requested by him. SakotGrimshine 23:36, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

I would say quite the opposite. While we had an article on him I opposed your reblocking of him but now we dont have an article on him I can see no reason to unblock him given his past behaviour and legal threats, SqueakBox 23:38, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

The question is are the legal threats now moot? Or will he make more? Blocking is not supposed to punish people. SakotGrimshine 23:39, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Unblocking was incredibly controversial before. If he wants to be unblocked right now it ashould be for him to ask the wiki foundation to do so. We have to see evidence that he is 100% happy with the current outcome (where the past hsitory of the article is still available as are the talk page and its 9 archives so until various issues are resolved I am not convinced these threats are moot. He has stated once wikipedia gives him what he wants that he will have no interest in editing here anyway, SqueakBox 23:43, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

I asked him just now by email what he wants to do. As I understand it, he does not want to edit Misplaced Pages. But he also doesn't want to be listed as a blocked or banned user. I assume that an unblock would be a courtesy formality, as he has no interest in editing anyway. I will respect his wishes.--Jimbo Wales 08:35, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

I notice you still havent unblocked him and he has also made clear on WR his desire to be unblocked, in spite of my above comments if you want to unblock him I would unhesitatingly support your actions. He says he still has BLP concerns (eg that his name is redirected rather than deleted) so I think untiol his concerns are fully met that we would be best to unblock for now, SqueakBox 20:34, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Content of user pages

Hi, Jimbo. Today I noticed that the project contains quite a few user pages that seem to spotlight the most unseemly sides of the project. If I were a newbie or a potential contibutor, I would have kept away from Misplaced Pages after taking a look at all the offensive statements listed on User:EVula, for instance. Do you think a user page may contain everything or there should be some exceptions, so as not to bring Misplaced Pages into disrepute? --Ghirla 21:28, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

I see nothing wrong with that page. It's not like he's claiming to be a pedophile or anything. --Carnildo 23:26, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

A good list of things he's been called though. --h2g2bob (talk) 02:27, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Nevertheless I don't see an overpowering reason why there should be so much spotlight on insults and offensive statements. One editor (now permabanned) once told me, "Remember that the Russian's eyes may be blue, but his arse is black." Should I proudly display this message on my user page (being Russian myself)? I think such lists of insults create a distorted perspective on the project and scare potential contributors from getting involved in Misplaced Pages. --Ghirla 07:43, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages isn't a friendly place though. If you can tell me of one editor with over 1000 contribs who hasn't been insulted, trolled, flamed, or had some other experience dealing with morons on wikipedia, I might support you -- Phoeba Wright 07:55, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

So why flaunt it? --Ghirla 08:10, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Because it's good for a laugh. If we weren't allowed any humour on wikipedia, the project would probably be dead or dying from having most editors leave -- Phoeba Wright 19:12, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Feba, do you find insults and ethnic slurs funny? --Ghirla 19:26, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

By themselves, no. In the way they were listed though, yes. I find internet trolls quite humourous -- Phoeba Wright 20:20, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

So do I. Do you think it would be funny to leave this image hanging on my user page? --Ghirla 20:29, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

On your page, no. But I wouldn't mind a link to the diff saying "ASCII Hippos (or something) declare me a troll - Day, Month, Year."; as a part of the page itself it's rather large and annoying. -- Phoeba Wright 07:37, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Maybe you should talk with EVula ... he or she may have never thought of the reasons you propose here. --Iamunknown 19:56, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

EVula is just an example. I know quite a few user pages arranged along these lines and I would like to know Jimbo's opinion about the principle that stacking offensive lines from all over Misplaced Pages on one's user page is funny or cool. --Ghirla 20:01, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Ghirla, is it possible that the problem is the folk who would write such things about an editor? It may make you a little uncomfortable to view these things, but sometimes somebody has to be brave enough to bring such matters into the public areana. Perhaps you may prefer that the targets of such abuse should quietly push these attacks away to protect the sensitivities of the rest of us. Of course, if that happened in the real world women would still be second class citizens, gay people would have to live a lie and black people would still be using the "Jim Crow" seats... No, parts of EVula's page is not a nice place, but it wasn't EVula that ultimately made it that way. Lastly, and I do not mean this unkindly, if you are uncomfortable with the truth being honestly displayed you may wish to consider your ability to contribute to an uncensored encyclopedia.LessHeard vanU 22:58, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

I generally tend to agree with Ghirla. The best way to deal with trolls is to delete their comments and ignore them. Keep Misplaced Pages clean, attractive, friendly. I don't find LessHeard's argument compelling, because I think it is not about protecting sensitivities at all. It's about not feeding trolls. I should add that I don't find EVula's userpage to be especialy problematic, even if it is different from what I choose to have, and different from what I recommend.--Jimbo Wales 05:31, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your prompt reply, Jimbo. I concur that we'd better refrain from highlighting vandalism and trolling in user space. --Ghirla 17:16, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

I understood from the above that Jimbo preferred that people didn't list the reactions of trolls and vandals in their userspace, as it might be inferred as troll feeding and may not be considered as being the best possible advertisment of the general friendly and attractive ethos of Misplaced Pages. In noting him not finding EVula's page problematic it seems to infer that Jimbo is not requiring contributors refrain from exhibiting such comments, although it wouldn't be what he would do or recommend.

What he didn't agree with (as I see it) was my advocacy of the principle of allowing the advertising of the potential nastiness that can (if rarely) occur, and that editors sensitivities should determine whether they are more or less able to contribute to Misplaced Pages. To the first point, I adhere to WP:NOT (advocacy included) and do not believe that supporting an editors choice to display the nasty consequences of their endeavours violates it. To the second... yup, I was in error and will strike it from my earlier comment. This is the encyclopedia anyone can edit; battlescarred troll fighters, fluffy bunnies and all those in between and beyond. LessHeard vanU 21:34, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Heh, always nice to see my name thrown around without having a clue that it's happening. :)

One of the things I strive for in my Misplaced Pages activities, aside from improving the encyclopedia obviously, is to have fun (hell, just look at some of my edit summaries, if not the edits themselves). My wiki-philosophy in a nutshell: If I'm not having fun, it isn't worth doing (which is why I've taken breaks before). Compiling and maintaining that list amuses me to no end (come on, who wouldn't laugh at being threatened to be hung from a pine tree?), and more importantly, it apparently entertains other editors as well; I've received at least one barnstar of good humor based on that list alone, and plenty of other positive comments from people who are in the exact same position I'm in (ie: targets for vandals, just because they're an administrator doing their job). Admins get plenty of shit from people who quite frankly don't know any better, and it's nice to have a little outlet for that.

As for "spotlighting" them... I don't have a Table of Contents, and the list is below the first-page threshold on practically any screen, meaning that it isn't immediately obvious; I've thought about putting it in one of those hide/show boxes, but I simply don't want to (I find them obnoxious more often than not, and it would interfere with the sidebar I've got on the right). I'm not a big fan of protecting people from themselves; as I don't force anyone to view my userpage (if I could force people to do things, it'd be for something worthwhile, like their credit card number), it's a little "off the wiki-beaten path". Unless my userpage were to appear in Time or something (in which case I'd be extremely surprised), I don't think I'm "spotlighting" trolls.

While this is an apparent non-issue (both by by Jimbo's originally-sought opinion and the other contributors here), I still felt like providing an explanation. I'd be happy to expand on this on my talk page (unless Jimbo is just really curious and wants it to be posted here). EVula // talk // ☯ // 00:24, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
(also, for the record, I'm a "he"... ladies.)

Wikinews writing competition

Hi Jimbo!

Over on Wikinews I've just put my name down for a 100 euro prize in a new writing contest we'd like to start after the Board elections. I've contacted Ral315 in the hope of getting a mention in the Signpost (and possibly Misplaced Pages's sitenotice), but I'd really like to up the stakes on this. I know finances for the foundation are tight, but would you personally be interested in upping the ante on our prize pot? Last writing competition got us hundreds of articles and quite a few new contributors. --Brianmc 15:46, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Deletion or transfer

Maybe it's something even out of your reach, but can you either delete or transfer logs of mine of non-sports related edits ( see , , , , , , , , , , , and many more edits from April 2-3. If you possibly could transfer to my non sports account or delete them, it's no skin off my nose. Hope to hear from you soon! Soxrock 23:53 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, but as far as I know, there is no feature currently in the Mediawiki software that allows a transfer of individual edits from one account to another. There use to be a page called Misplaced Pages:Changing attribution for an edit where Misplaced Pages's developers would take requests to alter the MySql database directly, but is now not maintained anymore due to their busy schedules. And as for deleting specific edits, under the GNU Free Documentation License, we cannot since those modifications are really legitimate. Thanks. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 00:41, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Ok, since I want to keep trying at least, are there any higher ranking people than you here (obviously Jimbo Wales, but anyone else)? Soxrock 0:49, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Looking at the user access levels of MediaWiki, one possibility that is similar to what you want is contacting a user who has access to the oversight permission feature, but you probably do not qualify under those scenarios. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 00:59, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Now, that's a previous discussion. Can you either help hide/delete, or transfer the files I've highlighted and any other's that I do (like Voyager 2 edits from 4/20, all the Marshall-related and religious-related ones ones from 4/3, the Marylin Monroe and Amanda Bynes ones from last year that I'll highlight (some more here: , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , 2 edits here, , , , 2 edits here, , , , , , 2 edits here, numerous edits here, , , numerous edits here, , , , , 3 edits here, 6 edits on the redirect page, , , , , and the two ones I highlighted earlier, , and 5 edits to and

• here are a few more I'd like vacated:

3 here 4 here 2 here

• sorry to bother again, but here are some more from my other accounts:

Crazy Canadian:

CollegeGameDayRocks!:

And lastly, TheSportsLogosMaster:

(and there are probably a few more out there, I'll give you a link to the general areas of these edits)

If you could transfer, vacate, or, if you can't do too much, direct me to a higher ranking person. I want those gone from all of my accounts. Soxrock 12:02, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Now, I didn't get a response out of Blnguyen for about 48 hours, so I believe it won't be accomplished. Since I've recreated myself to be only sports editing under the accounts I've put up there, if you could either transfer the edits, vacate or delete them (any way to get them off the contributions list), I'd appreciate it greatly. THANKS FOR CREATING THIS GREAT SITE JIMMY! Soxrock 01:44, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Soxrock, I think the reason noone else has replied to you is that there is nothing more to be said, this simply isn't going to happen. Reinventing yourself means change going forward, not rewriting history - go forth & edit constructively, pretty soon all these old edits will be buried so far in your contribution history that even you will forget about them. --Versageek 17:02, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Confirm your board data

Hello Jimbo. I'm compiling a history of the Wikimedia Board of Trustees. If you remember, could you please confirm or correct the following data, and specify whether you will remain on the board after December 2007?

Thanks. —{admin} Pathoschild 21:54:07, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Proposal for BLP courtesy blanking

Would you have time to look at Misplaced Pages talk:Requests for arbitration/Badlydrawnjeff/Proposed decision#BLP blanking? I suspect that using a system of courtesy blanking might take a lot of the heat and drama out of the issues surrounding article with suspected Biographies of living people issues. It would also, in the true wiki-way, allow non-admins to help enforce WP:BLP without needing to find an admin. What do you think? Carcharoth 22:42, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

The da Vinci Barnstar

		The da Vinci Barnstar
		I've been giving barnstars out to good editors recently and I thought I'd give you this one So I'm awarding you this "Da vinci" barnstar for your enhancement of wikipedia through you know...Making Misplaced Pages! Wikidudeman 05:36, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

unsourced article should be deleted

Talent_(Sitcom) totally unsourced article about a sitcom which i cant find any external information about. should be deleted?—The preceding unsigned comment was added by WilliamMcDonald (talk • contribs).

No. I just added a source. Plus, This isn't the place to ask such a thing. Try the articles talk page.Wikidudeman 07:10, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Autograph?

Can I have your autograph? —Remember, the Edit will be with you, always. (Sethdoe92) 16:43, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Summer wikimeetup in San Francisco

Last summer, you met with Wikipedians. I remember around 20 people showed up despite a lack of publicity for the event. Will you meet with Wikipedians again this summer? I see the city is on your Sept. 20th itinerary. How about then? I'm willing to organize. The turnout would be massive for a well publicized SF/Bay Area event considering the concentration of Wikipedians in this region.

User:Lotsofissues — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.102.58.169 (talk • contribs) 00:29, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Chasers

Hello I am a new Wikipedian and a fan of the Chasers War on Everything. I was just wondering did the Chaser guy actually ask you ten questions. And did they actually change your Misplaced Pages page, at that conference in sydney?. Remember that man who asked you ten questions? I hope you have time to reply to me. Thank You.

 *BloodSpiller* 05:50, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Software

Dear Jimbo,

I've noticed that the likes of Uncyclopedia have exactly the same software as you are using. Do you know where I could buy the same as is used on wikipedia? I've search wikipedia software, mediawiki software but I couldn't find it?

82.20.51.180 14:02, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

No need to buy anything - all the software is free! The main software is MediaWiki, which you can get at MediaWiki's Website including installation instructions if you own or have access to a webserver. Uncyclopedia is hosted on wikia's servers for free. --h2g2bob (talk) 18:01, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

A barnstar

		The Editor's Barnstar
		For creating the sum of all human knowledge, and for being a nice guy. Well done Francisco Tevez 14:47, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Jay Leno using unreferenced jokes from Misplaced Pages?

Jimmy, I was watching the Tonight Show with Jay Leno last night and during his opening monologue which included jokes and what not. Jay Leno talked about George W. Bush being MLB's next baseball comissioner at the wishes of Bud Selig. I looked it up this morning on the internet to see if there any news articles about this. There was not one single article execpt for the blogs. So I checked out the Bud Selig article. Down towards the bottom, I saw the same type of language that Leno used and it was not referenced. I do not know if Leno used Misplaced Pages for the joke or not. I will not point fingers at this. It was just a visual standpoint I made out. Anyways here's the article before I removed the text: Spongefan 15:40, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Dunno. Seems like a good call to cut it to me, since it appeared completely unreferenced in the article when the addition was made by an anon (). But it is moderately well known that stories floated about that Bush was a candidate for the job when Selig became commissioner ( , .) More importantly is this article from February 2006, which used to be an external link in the Selig article. The last isn't serious at all AFAIK, but simply that it's not at all unlikely that anyone familiar with Selig's ascendancy might come up with that kind of joke, or as likely as not stole it from elsewhere. Though it's equally possible it came from here. LaughingVulcan 04:03, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Country showing thing

Perhaps there should be a thing that shows what country the user is in and if there are online. It would be very useful. Only Jimbo can make it happen. Because I am trying to find an Zimbabwen user thats currently online on Misplaced Pages. --Zwerrifringweraand 22:07, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Hi Zwerrifringweraand. I posted an answer on your talk page. -- Jreferee 01:22, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages for sale???

Hello Mr Wales, I am a paper pusher at an investment firm, I've heard a rumour that you are considering selling Misplaced Pages to the likes of Google or Microsoft, is this true? Does that mean there will be ads? IamYossarian 13:13, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

The rumours of Misplaced Pages's future commercialization are greatly exaggerated. See WP:5. YechielMan 17:10, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

"We're not for sale". --h2g2bob (talk) 12:13, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Question

Hello Mr Wales, I'me sure you're a very busy man so I will understand if you dont reply but I have a question to do with the Misplaced Pages Software, I have my own wiki and I was wondering, since you're virtually the god of online wiki's, how you get messages on the top of articles like the recent one about Wikimania 2007? Highfields 16:24, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Don't expect an answer from Jimbo. Try asking at Misplaced Pages:Reference desk/Computing. YechielMan 16:50, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

MediaWiki:Sitenotice --h2g2bob (talk) 12:22, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Question

Mr. Wales I think that you should limit editing only registered members. Subtle vandalism can be very destructive even if it is ephemeral. What if a subtle vandal caused an article on say, a drug, to be altered in such a way that someone fatally overdosed because they thought they were using in a safe range? Even if the deception is rectified within 24 hours the damage is already irrevocably done. Misplaced Pages has some liability for the veracity of its information whether or not it wants that burden. It has become a de facto source of reference with implicit authority. To say it is safe to do n mg of heroin as a novice user | n > LD50 is not much different from yelling "fire!" in a crowded theater. Athough, yes, the former is passive prima facie, because it is presented in a forum of implied authority it becomes active; as it were, a fact. Misplaced Pages may have legal liability in some countries should such a case of physical harm caused by vandalism actually transpire. I like your idea of free editing. But practically the game (or draw on people) of wikipedia seems to be more about fighting vandals (us vs. them) than documenting facts, which is boring in comparison. So why not ban anonymous user edits and save much time and eliminate 90% vandalism.--An anonymous User.

The trouble with banning unregistered users is that something like 80% of unregistered edits are not vandalism, as noted here. Banning them would stop a massive flow of good contributions, and I have actually seen several anonymous users revert vandalism in articles they happen to be reading. As for your comments about drug use, see Misplaced Pages:Medical disclaimer. Hut 8.5 20:45, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

I'd love to see more validation of that data; the numbers being bandied about come from one particular slice at one particular time, and might or might not be typical. --jpgordon 21:44, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

I can't provide a single number, so I don't know if this is helpful or not, but I've seen a surprisingly high amount of vandalism being reverted by anonymous editors. (granted, typically on articles that don't really matter) My very limited personal experience is that, even if it isn't a matter of 80%, at least about half the ip edits I see are at least relatively constructive (and even more are less-than-helpful, but still entirely well-intentioned). Bladestorm 21:49, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

If 99 vandal ip's take an average of 1 hour each to clear up their edits, and one good ip editor averages 130 hours use contributing (10 hours per week) for 3 months then WP is up 39 hours of good edits. Thus a ratio of 1 per 100 ip's is still a benefit. LessHeard vanU 12:56, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Your opinion

I would love to hear your opinion to this. Jeffrey.Kleykamp 15:13, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

question about a block...

Hi Jimbo... you blocked User:LittleBusters indefinably as a vandal-only account and he is now requesting unblock... I don't see any warnings/explanation on the talkpage and of the 2 edits previous to the block they both look to be good-faith, even if misguided. Is there something going on I'm not seeing? Thanks, ---J.S (T/C/WRE) 19:43, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

I know you're busy Jimbo, but you should probably reply to this. It's unclear exactly how this user was vandalising but nobody's willing to unblock since it was you who blocked the account. --Deskana (talk) 20:51, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Odd. For a vandal only account, I'd except it to look like this Bobby Boulders sock Special:Contributions/Bobby_Bigrock. --SakotGrimshine 21:53, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

I'm quite confused. Did this user really do anything to get blocked? I mean, it didn't seem that his 3 edits were bad. Thanks, Meldshal42 22:27, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Deleted articles won't show up in a contributions list. Not saying that's what happened, but just looking at the contributions doesn't always tell the whole story. Corvus cornix 18:45, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

There are oversighted edits that likely were problematic. --jpgordon 18:49, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

• Jimbo commented on the guy's talk page now, stating his rationale - Alison ☺ 02:58, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

My Essay

Mr. Wales, Would you mind reviewing my essay? It is contained in my signature. It is not yet complete, but I would love to hear your preliminary thoughts. --Trumpetband 21:57, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Spoof

A user known as YechielMan Spoofed Your Sig on my Autograph book —Remember, the Edit will be with you, always. (Sethdoe92) 14:51, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

Guilty as charged. I was trying to play a joke and see if you would notice. :) If it's any consolation to you, I'll put my sig on your talk page. Sorry if I hurt your feelings. YechielMan 20:21, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

My Userpage

The Admins. deleted my userpage and I want it put back cause they had no reason to delete it!-- Hornetman16 18:19, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

See User talk:Hornetman16#Your userpage for why it was deleted, SqueakBox 18:22, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

Permission question

I would like to ask permission to use the following photos on my user page(s):

Image:Exclusive.png Image:WikiMedia_Proejkts1.jpg Image:Misplaced Pages-info.png Image:Special.png

Please let me know ASAP!! Thanx.-- Hornetman16 04:00, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

I hope this isn't a problem - infoboxes like {{user wikipedia}} and {{user admin}} use wikipedia logos. --h2g2bob (talk) 16:36, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

One of our admins

Jimbo,

Normally I would say "let the process hash things out", because it is set up to do just that. However, we have an admin who is 'leading the charge' to community ban (lynch) another editor, long before any such action is warranted. This editor has unilaterally decided the situation and has defined her 'terms' against COFS here.

But it does not stop there. She also has made unfounded charges against other editors, in very poor faith, which I beleive would constitute WP:BLP violations, had they occured in mainspace.

On her talkpage, she is offering to 'help ban other users' and has suggested that editors compile/document the transgressions of anyone they feel should be banned. She has indicated that she wants to 'reform' an 'investigation board' and has personally helped 'train' up-and-comming admins to properly investigate these matters. She's appears to be on a mission to be Misplaced Pages's detective agency and official hangman.

I know you have lots to do. I'm here because, as founder of wikipedia, I believe you care about it. I would appreciate if you would take some time to read that thread (specifically this post where I am both falsely accused and given a veiled threat.), and the admin's talkpage.

Thank you. Lsi john 13:29, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Lsi john, I've already invited you to bring this to WP:RFAR. WP:AN is another standard venue. If you wish to make claims against me, please substantiate them with adequate evidence. Per WP:AGF, the burden of proof rests squarely on your shoulders. I don't believe my actions have been inappropriate. Durova 19:38, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

TfD nomination of Template:PD-Old regime Iraq

Template:PD-Old regime Iraq has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you.   — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 14:44, 24 June 2007 (UTC)