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	You really need to watch your tone when contributing. I realise that you are under a lot of pressure (from one attack site in particular) and that the present content of your article here causes you stress, but you need to be careful in how you express yourself. Baiting other editors is not helpful... <span style="font-family: Verdana">]]</span> 05:09, 25 June 2007 (UTC)		You really need to watch your tone when contributing. I realise that you are under a lot of pressure (from one attack site in particular) and that the present content of your article here causes you stress, but you need to be careful in how you express yourself. Baiting other editors is not helpful... <span style="font-family: Verdana">]]</span> 05:09, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

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Identity

I am in fact Matt Sanchez. Matthew.a.sanchez@gmail.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bluemarine (talk • contribs) 07:13, March 26, 2007 (UTC)

Section header/formatting added by El on ka 00:36, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Caution

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Editing an article about yourself

There seems to be some indication that you are in fact Matt Sanchez. If so, please review and follow Misplaced Pages's policies on editing one's own biography and on conflict of interest. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 16:38, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

The two problematical items you mentioned on my talk page aren't in the article anymore, so hopefully they are no longer an issue. As you know, it's pretty much impossible to keep inaccuracies out of an article; the best that can be hoped for is that they are promptly removed. (In that regard, I just removed a category, in the article, related to one of the two items you mentioned.)

In general, negative information about a person if it lacks a reliable source can be removed "on sight", per WP:BLP. If you do need to remove such information in the future, and run into any resistance, please feel free to drop me a note; I'll be happy to help on that or anything else I can.

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Just want to add to what John Broughton said--I'm really trying to work on getting this article NPOV, and the insertion of unrelated images and unsourced anecdotes are just making it harder (not to mention probably inviting more anonymous attack edits). I happen to think there is no need for this article at all; that it was tossed up as a blogosphere-directed hit, but as long as it's here I want to make it as fair as is possible. FYI, John Broughton is extremely fair and isn't part of the groups inserting weasel words and libelous statements. Seriously, take his advice. :) --Beth C. 20:59, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Matt, first I think words such as 'escorts' are giving you the benefit of the doubt to begin with: maybe nothing more than a full-body massage happens in exchange for $300/hour. However, I find it strange that in articles you allegedly wrote and said "I'm not denying it" and "it happened over ten years ago" that you would turn around and now deny it completely, conveneniently as a "don't ask, don't tell" military investigation has opened up. For someone who has courted controversy, this about-face when the wind changes direction is quite stunning.→ R Young {ł_talk} 05:20, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

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An autodidact, Sanchez has been able to both acquire several languages and pen articles in those languages

Lovingly referred to as Refer Mechs, Marines claim the jack of all trades combat engineers have the most important job in the Corps: Keeping the beer

Matt Sanchez was known for being especially muscular. His fellow Marines asked him to move a refrigeration unit without a crane. Rumor has it, that he did just that. There are also reports that his arms (19") did not fit well into his Marine camies and that the sleeves needed to be tailored to accommodate his girth.

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March 2007

Please do not delete content from articles on Misplaced Pages, as you did to Matt Sanchez. Your edits appear to be vandalism and have been reverted. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. Real96 06:46, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Please stop. If you continue to vandalize Misplaced Pages, as you did to Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject LGBT studies, you will be blocked from editing. WjBscribe 23:24, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Neutrality

There's no neutrality here. The bloggers are breaking their own rules. I added a different interview with Kevin McCullough. You have not been at all neutral. The LGBT community wishes to publicly assassinate me, and you insist that I have no neutrality.

I suggest we post the longer, more thorough Kevin McCullough advertisement. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bluemarine (talk • contribs) 07:08, March 28, 2007 (UTC)

Name-Calling

Jihadist because people have issued a fatwa because gay men, like yourself, who have a personal bias against me because you feel threatened by someone who doesn't agree with you.

My face is everywhere online. 00:35, 28 March 2007 (UTC)Matt Sanchez

Matt,

Why do you insist on calling everyone a name ('jihadists,' 'these fags') that you don't agree with? First, I wouldn't be surprised if you were 'straight' but that would make you 'gay-for-pay' which means you performed gay acts for money...i.e. 'prostitution.' You said yourself that 'pornography is prostitution' which by YOUR definition makes you a (fill in the blank).

Notably, you call people 'faceless cowards' when in fact their faces appear online. Hmmm. You complain of bias but you break every rule to push an agenda which is itself biased, contorted, distorted, and totally unsupportable. I think you must be enjoying the attention. If so, keep it up.→ R Young {ł_talk} 04:29, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

LGBT and some of the other homo bloggers have been extremely biased. I'm sure you've noticed their bias. Bluemarine 23:56, 26 March 2007 (UTC)Matt Sanchez

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Matt Sanchez

DYK info like that doesn't go on the article page. Plus, that info needs to be sourced. Further, unless you are an admin, you shouldn't add the protected templates. Please stop adding this to the article. MECU≈talk 14:16, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

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Your talk page

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Please read your messages! You are disrupting this talk page by posting the article about you on it. If you want to experiment with it, please to this somewhere else in your user space! Sandstein 18:48, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

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Ridiculous, if anything I have been far too blatant. I've never once denied my identity. Who are you?Matt Sanchez 03:28, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

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Civility

Perhaps if you didn't spend your time gay-baiting, people would have more sympathy for you. From your posts here, you clearly have a lot to learn about politics. Aatombomb 01:47, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Attombomb you're such a cowardly effete. Matthew Sanchez 03:23, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Matt, you should read WP:Civil. People can be blocked for comments like the one's you're making on the Talk page of your article.Wjhonson 03:10, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Matt, I second this comment by Wjhonson. Please watch the personal attacks. I understand how this is a complicated issue, to say the least, but personal attacks are not tolerated, from anyone. --Joanne B 03:59, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Joanne, please check the myriad comments that WhJohnson is making toward me. Matt Sanchez 04:04, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Matt, even so, please stay civil yourself. Others can be warned and eventually blocked for incivility and personal attacks as well, but you'll need to be more specific than to point to his contributions in general. Kind regards, --Joanne B 04:29, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Another nameless oneMatthew Sanchez 03:24, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Who are you and why aren't you signing off?Matthew Sanchez 03:25, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

You need to read the vandals who keep reposting on the entry on me. Matthew Sanchez 03:22, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Re: Matt Sanchez

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I see you are keeping a draft of the article below, I am going to move it for you to User:Bluemarine/Sandbox, a dedicated page where you can edit it. This will allow this page to be used just for messages to you... WjBscribe 04:04, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

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WP:AUTO

Matt, per WP:AUTO, may I please strongly advise that you avoid editing your bio at Matt Sanchez? The better way to handle this is to edit your sandbox version and then ask for those changes to be rolled in to the main bio. Thanks, El on ka 00:56, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

OOOPPPSSS

sorry, but I couldn't access my sandbox Matt Sanchez 01:10, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

Vengeful nature

Matt is compiling a history of being vindictive and angry. His comments on articles he's edited including his own prove that. I think he should be banned from Misplaced Pages until he can contribute in a civil and respectful way. If this behavior continues I will go to the editors of Misplaced Pages to see what they can do. Fair warning.

All trolls are requested to sign their normally anonymous postings. Thank you Matt Sanchez 05:45, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Matt Sanchez Radio Program

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Throttle down the personal attacks. Regardless of your personal history with some of the other editors, calling them "screwed up fags" and "disgusting sodomites" is NOT acceptable. Another editor just came off of an involuntary wikibreak due to incivility; if you don't calm down, you'll be doing the same. Horologium t-c 01:45, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

It's not the first time either. He personally attacked me too on several occasions. Aatombomb 03:58, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

Tone, avoiding personal attacks

You really need to watch your tone when contributing. I realise that you are under a lot of pressure (from one attack site in particular) and that the present content of your article here causes you stress, but you need to be careful in how you express yourself. Baiting other editors is not helpful... WjBscribe 05:09, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

And so we're utterly clear, however much you may feel provoked, attacks such as these- and on another editor are completely unacceptable. As is using derogatory terms about others' sexual orientation. Attacks of that nature in future, regardless of provocation, will result in your being blocked from editing Misplaced Pages for a period of time. WjBscribe 05:17, 25 June 2007 (UTC)