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- Mailer Diablo 02:00, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Copyright

Hi, welcome and thank you for your contributions but please don't submit material lifted from copyrighted sources. Those edits will have to be reverted.

Regards, Lotsofissues 07:04, 10 May 2005 (UTC) ›››Leave Me a Message‹‹‹

Sorry for the misunderstanding. I found a webpage that contained the same text - it must be your page?

Regards, Lotsofissues 18:19, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

Tax resistance

Hi. I just wanted to thank you for the excellent work you've done to improve the Tax resistance article. Cheers! -- BDAbramson June 28, 2005 18:15 (UTC)

Hello. I noticed that you've created a number of articles on various tax resistors. Do you think you could expand them to include a mention of why they are notable for doing so, as I don't know that just refusing to pay taxes, even for moral reasons, automatically makes someone notable. Thanks --Icelight 19:29, August 2, 2005 (UTC)

Excellent! That's really all I wanted to make sure of. If you have one or two primary sources that you're working from that are accesible online, I'd be glad to help. --Icelight 00:41, August 3, 2005 (UTC)

You just put Sally Belfrage in Category:Tax resisters. This isn't mentioned in her article, and I didn't know about it previously. Where have you verified this? --Ashawley 15:03, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

Hello. Can I ask what your source is that Mary Russell, Duchess of Bedford was a tax resistor, please? Thanks Craigy (talk) 20:28, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Hello. May I ask your source re: tax resistance, regarding my father, Robert Claiborne? Thanks.

Nuwaubianism

Nice articles. I did a few minor format changes and made a category to group them all under. Are you a researcher on such organizations, or were you at one time involved with them? (I've known several Nuwaubians, and almost became one myself) --FuriousFreddy 14:58, 11 August 2005 (UTC)

Whether or not York raped those kids is something I'll never be sure of (I never met him, so I don't have any sort of character judgement ot make). But the Nuwaubians that I did meet were some of the nicest people that I've known (except for when I and some others couldn't afford to pay $100 a month--we were college students!-- and the classes stopped), even if some of the beliefs were a bit unusual. They started holding classes among my college friends when were all 19, and I guess me being a insecure and (admittedly) somewhat gullible teenager, I started going too. --FuriousFreddy 16:30, 11 August 2005 (UTC)

I'd like to know what Nuwaubian books if any Moorlock you actually do own. It appears most of the work you've created for this article is coming from user created websites which are notoriously errant. Nuwaubian Hotep 16:54, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Re:

Moorlock wrote:

Please do not correct misspellings in quoted material when those misspellings are marked with "," for instance, in the Nuwaubianism page, which you have incorrectly corrected three times now. -Moorlock 19:13, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Oh dear. I am terribly sorry about this. I do occasionally fail to notice things like this at first, and have to go back and revert myself, but I really should have noticed this by the third time. If anything else, I should have remembered that I had already edited the page twice before, also the is clearly visible next to the word. Having made more than 5000 corrections of this type – 99.9% of which are hopefully useful – I sometimes get into the habit of not always reading everything through properly before I change it. I add all the pages that I change to my watchlist, which I do occasionally scan for reversions of my edits, but unfortunately this plan has backfired somewhat as there are now over 5000 pages on there, and it's difficult to pick out anything useful from the mass of unrelated changes.

Once again, my apologies for the annoyance I have caused, and thanks for reverting my changes. To be on the safe side I have made a note of Nuwaubianism and not to change it for this word; I will take extra care if it comes up in other searches -- Gurch 20:34, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Sic

Please do not correct spelling errors in quoted material when the spelling errors are marked with "", as you did recently on the Dwight York page.

I apologise for the inconvenience. Welcome to wikipedia. May I suggest you put the quotes around the quoted passages (using two apostrophes '' at either end) so that it comes out in italics as quoted text. ॐ Metta Bubble 21:42, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

From the Misplaced Pages:Manual_of_Style:

Quotations

There is normally no need to put quotations in italics unless the material would otherwise call for italics (emphasis, use of non-English words, etc.). Indicate whether using the italics in the original text or whether they were added later.

-Moorlock 22:07, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. Also, why have you linked the sic? It's not relevant to the content of the article. ॐ Metta Bubble 06:16, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

I link it because some folks don't know what it means. It's just obscure enough that a clarifying link might be helpful. Judgement call. A good argument could be made against linking it. -Moorlock 06:22, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

Maybe we could phrase an introduction to the quotation text so that it isn't confusing? We shouldn't be linking editorial comments. My mistake was more because I was doing 100 edits in a 5 minute, than because I don't know the meaning of sic. Also, if you're having this problem regularly with people editing something that needs to stay (which it seems you are), you can put an html comment into the text so that a message shows up when someone goes to correct the edit. Something along the lines of <!-- MISSPELLING INTENDEED, PLEASE LEAVE -->. Is that helpful? Peace. ॐ Metta Bubble 06:40, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

valid reasons for reversion

At tax avoidance I edited and, I think, improved the article. My edit was reverted without explanation, anonymously. Did you agree with that reversion? My edit was then reinstated with the comment "rv vandalism". You undid this reinstatement of my edit with the explanation that you disagreed or did not understand the reason for the edit. I suggest that what needs to be judged is the quality of the edit, not the reason given for it. The aim is to improve the quality of then encyclopedia. I'm sure you agree. So, please explain why the version you re-introduced, the one prior to my edit, is better than my version. In the interim I am reinstating my edit. Paul Beardsell 08:10, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

frank chu

can you email me the resume? I can't get it. mailinator711@yahoo.com Scratch that, i got it.--Muchosucko 21:37, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Zangwill in Women's Tax Resistance League?

Hi Moorlock, I made a quick search and found which mentions "Mrs. Israel Zangwill". Our article is about a Mr. Israel Zangwill, so some verification/proof would be very much appreciated. Thank you, colleague. ←Humus sapiens 01:35, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

my bad -Moorlock 02:12, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Barnstar

		The Society Barnstar
		This is in recognition of your effort and good work in the areas of tax resistance and war & peace tax issues. JonHarder 01:02, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

Template:Anti-war topics up for deletion

Template:Anti-war topics is up for deletion. Please weigh in on the discussion. Thanks! SchuminWeb (Talk) 09:36, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Hi Matt, sweet picture of Frank Chu, I would recommend you update the picture page with the date and time the pict was taken I assume it was bay to breakers 2006 in Alamo square if this is correct it would be cool if your picture had the facts. Date, time, place - cheers --Paul E. Ester 04:08, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Talk:Boston Tea Party

Howdy, I noticed that you and I seem to post in one or two articles dealing with progressive issues in political science/sociology. There's currently a debate beginning in Boston Tea Party as to whether the article should include the category . It meets definitions set in the articles Terrorism and Definition of terrorism, however, there are several self-proclaimed patriots who watch BTP who refuse to recognise the fact. The simple criteria for terrorism generally seem to be intimidation or destruction of property in order to change public policy or public opinion while a state of war has not yet been declared. Some users would rather use recent acts of terrorism as a yardstick, rather than using a firm definition, and hence lose their ability to discuss matters calmly. Would you be able to pop in to the Talk page and join in the discussion? Thanks much, samwaltz 05:08, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

{{Thoreauviana}}

Nice job on the template! I made the image smaller and the text bigger (I hope you don't mind) so it's less intrusive. Why is it called Thoreauviana though? -- Chrissperanza! chat edits 16:34, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Edit summary

I have noted that you often edit without an edit summary. Please do your best to always fill in the summary field. This is considered an important guideline in Misplaced Pages. Even a short summary is better than no summary. An edit summary is even more important if you delete any text; otherwise, people may think you're being sneaky. Also, mentioning one change but not another one can be misleading to someone who finds the other one more important; add "and misc." to cover the other change(s). Thanks! — Sebastian 02:24, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Reckless robot editing

You've twice now edited Nuwaubianism to change "oftentimes" to "often" in quoted text from a source in a footnote. Please do not make stylistic, grammar, and other such changes to direct quotes. If you're going to use a robot to make vast changes for style, spelling, grammar, and such, you need to verify by inspection that these changes are correct and appropriate. -Moorlock 03:17, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Hi Moorlock. My apologies for changing the quoted text. I do in fact inspect the changes my bot makes before approving them, it's just in this case I slipped up (twice!) and didn't notice that it was modifying quoted material. I might note that I've changed oftentimes to often in >500 articles (and specifically left it alone in a number of others where I saw it was inappropriate to change it), and only got one complaint so far, so I don't think that's too bad a track record. Perfection would be nice, of course, but I'm afraid I'm only human. In any event, I've made note of this exception in my bot and it won't happen again. Cheers, CmdrObot 19:47, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

Merge

Moorlock, Thanks for your comments on Talk:IRS Volunteer Income Tax Assistance Program. However, you only answered one piece of the suggestion. The main point was to merge all the U.S. tax form articles. Perhaps I should have picked a better talk page. The VITA was sort of a additional one I added in last minute as it seemed to relate. I wanted to ask that you take another look and add your support or opposition to merging the U.S. tax forms such as Form 2553, Form 2555, Form W-4, Form W-8BEN, Form W-9, Form 1040EZ, Form 1040A, Form 1040X, Form 1040 into Tax forms in the United States. Thanks Morphh 13:42, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Dwight York

Why did you take down my section on whether or not Dwight York was guilty? The cites were valid and the info was true.

The information in the section you added was inaccurate (as I indicated in the "edit summary" when I reverted your edit). If the wording were more accurate and precise, it could be a useful addition. -Moorlock 23:35, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Civil Disobedience

Touche. My poor spelling was only reinforced by the redirect for the spelling-impaired. Since the influence of the essay forms a large part of the article, I think it should be noted in the lead; but I'll defer to your judgement. Regards, Venicemenace 00:57, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Beit Sahour

Could you please reproduce the section you are referencing in this edit. Specifically, I'm concerned about some of the details: did they cut all telephone communication? who were the 40, were they selected at random? From whom was money or goods taken, etc. Many thanks, Tewfik 03:28, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

I understand that it could be tiresome to reproduce the text. Perhaps you could just clarify the points above that you are basing the statements on and/or provide specific page numbers for the cited statements? Thank you, Tewfik 16:50, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Again, I'd very much appreciate if you could provide specific page numbers for the statements and/or quote the relevant lines. Thank you, Tewfik 22:03, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

I never asked you to type the section by hand. I made a perfectly reasonable and polite request for either the specific line/s, or their page numbers. Tewfik 00:04, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

I know exactly where the document is located. I want to know what the page numbers for the assertions are. Tewfik 00:35, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Walter Lowenfels

I noticed you added Category:American tax resisters to the Walter Lowenfels article. Could you tell me your reasons for doing so? The article is just a stub at the moment, but there is nothing at all about his (supposed) tax resistance. Could you point me to your source for including Lowenfels in this category? Thanks -- hibou 07:56, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Zinn article

You wrote:

Zinn co-signed a declaration of tax resistance in 1968)

Would you cite a source for this information?

Thanks!

Skywriter 18:36, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for responding.

you wrote:

Howard Zinn & tax resistance

Cite: “Writers and Editors War Tax Protest” January 30, 1968 New York Post (also published elsewhere) -Moorlock :18:56, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

I appreciate your enthusiasm for tax resistance but do not believe one incident nearly 40 years ago qualifies for inclusion in the category of tax resistance. Tax resistance is not something he has advocated over the years, or do you have evidence of the opposite.

Best regards,

Skywriter 21:09, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

you wrote:

The category is "American tax resisters" and is meant to include those people who have practiced the tactic of :tax resistance, without regard to how long ago or how many "incidents". (And anyway, he's not averse to putting :in an occasional plug for Thoreauvian tax :resistance even today.) -Moorlock 00:52, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Great! That works for me. Fresh as the morning muffins. Thanks. I will place your link on the Zinn talk page for reference. Skywriter 03:54, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Orville Schell

Hi -- I removed your newly added Category:American tax resisters from the Orville Schell entry because it's not cited and I couldn't find any authority for it in a quick google search. I do see that there is an author, Jonathan Schell, who advocates withholding taxes in protest of American war efforts, so perhaps you're thinking of him. Feel free to add it back if O.S. is really a tax resister or advocate but if you could, please add a little content on that and a reference. If it's really J.S. that would be interesting too. Thanks. Wikidemo 04:46, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

James Crumley

Thank you pointing out my clear error in overlooking the reference to Crumley's tax resistance in the text. I didn't recall it being there when I had edited the article in the past, and didn't see it on a quick read now. My apologies for the reversion. Ed Fitzgerald (unfutz) (talk/cont) 23:00, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

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Quotes

Re: http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Render_unto_Caesar...&diff=90335442&oldid=90334617

No, IMHO, curly quotes do not look nicer, and I went to a great deal of trouble to remove the blasted things. *sigh* Mdotley 02:21, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

eserver.org reverting

Please stop reverting the eserver.org linkspam I keep deleting. This has been thoroughly discussed at WPSPAM and COIN. (Requestion 03:09, 21 June 2007 (UTC))

You will be templated if you revert my eserver.org spam deletions. I will give you a moment to undo your reverts. Take this up with WPSPAM and COIN if you have a problem. Besides, 9 eserver.org links on the Henry David Thoreau article is excessive. (Requestion 04:04, 21 June 2007 (UTC))

I agree with your concern about Requestion's mass deletion of apparently useful links (see my comments at User talk:Requestion). Thanks for speaking up about it. -- Rbellin|Talk 04:51, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Sorry Rbellin but you are wrong. This spam removal is justified and sanctioned. I really don't want to see either of you blocked, so can please stop the reverting? (Requestion 20:48, 25 June 2007 (UTC))

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