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I don't think that you and nenolod actually ''disagree'' about anything, and I don't think that RFC is likely to be productive. - ] <small>(] | ])</small> 11:01, 27 June 2007 (UTC) I don't think that you and nenolod actually ''disagree'' about anything, and I don't think that RFC is likely to be productive. - ] <small>(] | ])</small> 11:01, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

I believe that you are correct. I have nothing against nenolod, despite his continuous off-site assumptions of bad faith and threats to expose some sort of conspiracy. However, the fact is that his recent behavior of putting IRCd and IRC Services articles for deletion were done in a disruptive manner. The question of whether or not he is doing it to make a point (which I do believe he is, but I'm not about to argue over it) could be discarded if one simply realizes that he '''is''' doing so in a way that is impeding the process of improving wikipedia. To quote from ]:

:*'''If''' someone lists one of your favourite articles on AfD and calls it ''silly'', and you believe that there are hundreds of sillier articles...
:**'''do''' state your case on AfD in favour of the article.
:**'''don't''' list hundreds of other articles on AfD in one day to try to save it.

And on ], he states that he has added other competing IRC services packages to prod simply because he was asked to re-add the prod notice to ] that he previously removed.

Personally, I don't agree with the deletion of the InspIRCD article. I happen to have used it a few times, and despite my decision that I didn't think the software could scale properly, I feel that it is notable, and worthy of inclusion in at least the comparison of IRCd softwares article.

Ultimately my goal is to "lubricate a squeaky cog", not "squeak louder". So, given that, what do you propose should be done? I guess I can be bold, and simply remove his notices. I just don't want him to get the wrong idea. Thanks. ] 21:30, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
:''to try to save it.''

:I believe that he sincerely feels that there's a whole class of low-quality articles that should be deleted. That's not disrupting Misplaced Pages to make a point.

:On nenolod's talk page, I see a lot of unfortunate incivility. I was hoping I could come in and help everyone understand where everyone actually was and that fighting like this is pointless. - ] <small>(] | ])</small> 06:45, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

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FA Bot question

Not sure whitelist is working: question here. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 01:58, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Counter bot seems to have stalled again - didn't run this hour (FA count should now be 1217 + 5). SandyGeorgia (Talk) 23:58, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Ack - someone altered the count - I thought the whitelist prevented that? Since I'm not an admin, am I able to correct this if it happens again? SandyGeorgia (Talk) 19:55, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Hi Jmax-, Sandy just informed me of another hiccup. Judging by your contributions, you seem to be taking a break from the wiki for a while. Do you want to see if someone wants to adopt the bot? I'm not sure how that would work but that way you wouldn't have messages waiting everytime you logged on. Cheers, BanyanTree 14:05, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Daily-article-l

I have a request for your scripting talents. user:Frazzydee and I current run daily-article-l (which you can get to by clicking 'by email' on the main page). It's generated using a script (which Faraaz runs manually), and then he pastes the results into his email client, sends the email, and then approves it. I would prefer to fully automate the process. We considered doing this originally when Kate set it up, but the templates were not protected then (leading us to worry about a well timed vandalism). This no longer being the case, I would like to fully automate it. Would you be willing to help us do this? Raul654 23:21, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for considering helping us with this. One problem that may arise is that changes in the main page can often cause undesired results in the script's output; for example, the script has been appending "(more...)" to the end of all featured article descriptions since this text was added in to the FA descriptions, and it has not been outputting the selected anniversaries since the format was changed slightly by adding an extra line of text at the top.
Unless there is some way to safeguard against any changes made to the main page, I think it would be best for the script to automatically generate and send emails, but not approve it in mailman. This would ensure that a human checks over the emails first (it would only take a few seconds). -Frazzydee| 04:09, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for your help- it's much appreciated. I'm not sure what you have access to now; do you have the source code for the original Mkfamail script that Kate created? If not, I can email that to you with a list of its problems right now.
Currently, the script generates the email text, and I copy & paste its output to my email client. I'm not sure how hard it would be to implement a system where the emails were also sent automatically (I'm on linux, so possibly a shell script?), but if it's too difficult a task then I'm fine with sticking to the old method. Thanks again for your help. -Frazzydee| 03:54, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

perlwikipedia problems

Greetings. I'm having trouble getting perlwikipedia to work correctly. I put a request in at User talk:Shadow1/perlwikipedia#More tech support. If you could look it over, I'd really appreciate it. Thanks, – Quadell 14:28, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Active user verification

Hello, Jmax-. Due to the high number of inactive users at WP:WPNN, we are asking that you verify that you are still an active contributor of the project. To do so, please add an asterisk (*) after your name on WP:WPNN. Users without one by the next issue in 2 weeks will be removed off the list. If you have any questions, please contact me on my talk page. Thanks. Diez2 23:23, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Requests for comment/Nenolod

I've deleted Misplaced Pages:Requests for comment/Nenolod, for two reasons. Firstly, "I can't stand idly by and let a troll vandalize this great encyclopedia to make a point" is inflammatory and unnecessary. Secondly, I think this is all a big misunderstanding, and RFC is needlessly confrontational.

You are under the impression that nenolod wants to make some sort of point, to protest the deletion of InspIRCd, correct? I believe he was simply convinced by Cacophony, and is applying a standard he wasn't aware of before. I can't see any evidence that this isn't the case, and he-said she-said accusations based on IRC are completely unhelpful.

I don't think that you and nenolod actually disagree about anything, and I don't think that RFC is likely to be productive. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 11:01, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

I believe that you are correct. I have nothing against nenolod, despite his continuous off-site assumptions of bad faith and threats to expose some sort of conspiracy. However, the fact is that his recent behavior of putting IRCd and IRC Services articles for deletion were done in a disruptive manner. The question of whether or not he is doing it to make a point (which I do believe he is, but I'm not about to argue over it) could be discarded if one simply realizes that he is doing so in a way that is impeding the process of improving wikipedia. To quote from WP:POINT:

  • If someone lists one of your favourite articles on AfD and calls it silly, and you believe that there are hundreds of sillier articles...
    • do state your case on AfD in favour of the article.
    • don't list hundreds of other articles on AfD in one day to try to save it.

And on his talk page, he states that he has added other competing IRC services packages to prod simply because he was asked to re-add the prod notice to Atheme that he previously removed.

Personally, I don't agree with the deletion of the InspIRCD article. I happen to have used it a few times, and despite my decision that I didn't think the software could scale properly, I feel that it is notable, and worthy of inclusion in at least the comparison of IRCd softwares article.

Ultimately my goal is to "lubricate a squeaky cog", not "squeak louder". So, given that, what do you propose should be done? I guess I can be bold, and simply remove his notices. I just don't want him to get the wrong idea. Thanks. Jmax- 21:30, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

to try to save it.
I believe that he sincerely feels that there's a whole class of low-quality articles that should be deleted. That's not disrupting Misplaced Pages to make a point.
On nenolod's talk page, I see a lot of unfortunate incivility. I was hoping I could come in and help everyone understand where everyone actually was and that fighting like this is pointless. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 06:45, 28 June 2007 (UTC)