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| :I've put the Israel paragraph back in, citing Desmond Tutu's April 2002 speech and providing links to its text. This was immediately vandalised by pro-Israel propaganda: | |||
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| :: The limitations Israel imposed upon the Palestinians are not shared by Israeli Arabs; supporters of Israel, therefore, claim that the Israeli policies are caused solely by political and military reasons, pending the institution of an ] or state-like entity. | |||
| :I've deleted the above on the grounds that this article is about apartheid, not about presenting an Israeli POV. ] | |||
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Can anybody write something here on the beginnings and ending of apartheid in South Africa? Thanks.
I know the term originated in South Africa, but recently:
- apartheid was made a "human rights" violation, even for something as minor as not letting people organize a labor union
- a new supranational count (the ICC) claims jurisdiction to prosecute human rights violations everywhere in the world, even countries which did not ratify the ICC treaty
- my POV is that there's a trick here: the ICC/apartheid thing will be used selectively against Israel
A "trick"? Are Israel guilty of apartheid or aren't they? If they are, shouldn't they be made to stop doing it? GrahamN
If there is large enough group of people (e.g., Arabs in general or a specific Arab group or leader) who thinks Israel is guilty of apartheid, please mention this in the article. Suppose, for example that Mustapha Muhammed (to pick a name out of thin air) believes that Israel discriminates against Palestinians by not letting them form labor unions. Simply add that to the article. I would say something like:
- The UN definition of "apartheid" includes preventing an ethnic group from forming a labor union. Mustapha Muhammad, deputy commissinor of labor for the Palestinian Authority says that Israel is preventing Arabs in the West Bank from forming labor unions. They abolished the Hamas Haberdashers and Rug-Weavers local 319 in Jenin this summer.
Okay? Ed Poor
Okay. I will do some research. In the mean time I will delete the reference to Israel. GrahamN
- I've put the Israel paragraph back in, citing Desmond Tutu's April 2002 speech and providing links to its text. This was immediately vandalised by pro-Israel propaganda:
- "It has sometimes been argued, by supporters of the Palestinian cause..."
- The limitations Israel imposed upon the Palestinians are not shared by Israeli Arabs; supporters of Israel, therefore, claim that the Israeli policies are caused solely by political and military reasons, pending the institution of an independent Palestinian state or state-like entity.
- I've deleted the above on the grounds that this article is about apartheid, not about presenting an Israeli POV. Jacob